Majority Want Biden Removed

[saxitoxin]

I don’t get the connection of all the charity work and all the attacks on Saxi. Love thy neighbor but not this neighbor?

Sax had always been too HOT to HANDLE

[2dimes]

Tell 'em to try that in Regina or Winipeg.

[saxitoxin]

Embassy Kabul took a momentary break from cheerily tweeting about USAID projects in Afghanistan today to urgently appeal for all remaining Americans to flee the country "immediately" using any available means, then went back to its cheery aid and development tweets as though nothing was wrong.

The heat is on in Saigon, but still the party goes on ...

https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKabul/stat ... 74850?s=19

[saxitoxin]

The Taliban just captured a fifth capital in the last hour. Once again, the heavily defended city was taken without bloodshed after the Afghan Army abandoned their posts and fled.

Flights leaving the country are reportedly sold out in Kabul as socialist politicians, feminist professors and transgendered billionaires try to escape.

[jusplay4fun]

I don’t get the connection of all the charity work and all the attacks on Saxi. Love thy neighbor but not this neighbor?

Sax had always been too HOT to HANDLE

My "attacks" are trying to refute saxi's lies. Is that not the Commandment "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour"

And do we "Love thy neighbor" by allowing him to do or say anything when such actions or statements are doing harm?

Should I only do charity work and ignore the evils of the world? Then why do we need laws?

[HitRed]

There is a higher way without using words like pathetic and ignorant. Treat him the same as those you help.

[DoomYoshi]

So where did the billions go that NATO spent on training and equipping Afghan forces?

[saxitoxin]

So where did the billions go that NATO spent on training and equipping Afghan forces?

To the Monday/Wednesday Lashkargah-to-Herat bus route -



Also, the Taliban have released videos of the interior of one of Gen. Dostun's homes they captured ... I sort-of doubt he affords this on an Afghan general's salary of $600/month. So a lot probably went to Dostun's numbered Swiss bank accounts.

[Dukasaur]

I don’t get the connection of all the charity work and all the attacks on Saxi. Love thy neighbor but not this neighbor?

I don't think that exposing someone's lies qualifies as an attack on their person.

You can hate the deed without hating the doer. Otherwise, we would all end up guilty of filicide at some point.

[saxitoxin]

I don’t get the connection of all the charity work and all the attacks on Saxi. Love thy neighbor but not this neighbor?

I don't think that exposing someone's lies qualifies as an attack on their person.

You can hate the deed without hating the doer. Otherwise, we would all end up guilty of filicide at some point.

"Info I don't like" is not synonymous with "lies"

[Dukasaur]

So where did the billions go that NATO spent on training and equipping Afghan forces?

Mostly to private contractors who pocketed the money and laughed all the way to the bank.

[saxitoxin]

A sixth capital just fell to the Islamic Emirate! Aibak was captured after Afghan Army Gen Aisif switched sides this afternoon and took an entire government regiment with him.

Panic grips Kabul with seats on outgoing planes fetching tens of thousands of dollars and the Biden embassy frantically shredding documents prior to the arrival of the Mujhaidein.

[Dukasaur]

I don’t get the connection of all the charity work and all the attacks on Saxi. Love thy neighbor but not this neighbor?

I don't think that exposing someone's lies qualifies as an attack on their person.

You can hate the deed without hating the doer. Otherwise, we would all end up guilty of filicide at some point.

"Info I don't like" is not synonymous with "lies"

There's a huge implicit lie that you've been spinning this entire thread.

The war in Afghanistan was started by George Bush, a Republican. Another Republican, Donnie Drumph, was the one who admitted defeat and signed an agreement with the Taliban providing for American withdrawal in return for absolutely nothing empty promises of negotiation. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has wasted American lives, Republicans have held the Senate. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has raged, Republicans have held the House of Representatives. Defense contractors with strong ties to the Republican party have raked in $5 billion for their useless participation in the war. It's been a Republican show all the way. And all you've done, throughout this thread, is try to spin it as a failing of the Biden and/or Obama administrations. Call it propaganda or misdirection, if you absolutely must have some circumlocution. But for people who speak plainly, it's basically a lie.

The funny part is, you'll probably get away with it. I'm struck by the many obvious parallels with the Vietnam War. Active American involvement in Vietnam was started by Eisenhower, a Republican. The man who admitted defeat, threw in the towel, in exchange for empty promises of negotiations by the North, was Richard Nixon, another Republican. Like Afghanistan, Vietnam was a Republican-driven show from start to finish. And yet somehow, in the public imagination, Republican propagandists have managed to link it mainly to the Kennedy/Johnson administration.

Your spin on Afghanistan, then, may be a novelty to some, but to those who actually pay attention to history it's really predictable.

It is a well-known and unfortunate fact that, in your country's politics, Republicans are the master bullshitters.

[saxitoxin]

I don’t get the connection of all the charity work and all the attacks on Saxi. Love thy neighbor but not this neighbor?

I don't think that exposing someone's lies qualifies as an attack on their person.

You can hate the deed without hating the doer. Otherwise, we would all end up guilty of filicide at some point.

"Info I don't like" is not synonymous with "lies"

There's a huge implicit lie that you've been spinning this entire thread.

The war in Afghanistan was started by George Bush, a Republican. Another Republican, Donnie Drumph, was the one who admitted defeat and signed an agreement with the Taliban providing for American withdrawal in return for absolutely nothing empty promises of negotiation. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has wasted American lives, Republicans have held the Senate. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has raged, Republicans have held the House of Representatives. Defense contractors with strong ties to the Republican party have raked in $5 billion for their useless participation in the war. It's been a Republican show all the way. And all you've done, throughout this thread, is try to spin it as a failing of the Biden and/or Obama administrations. Call it propaganda or misdirection, if you absolutely must have some circumlocution. But for people who speak plainly, it's basically a lie.

The funny part is, you'll probably get away with it. I'm struck by the many obvious parallels with the Vietnam War. Active American involvement in Vietnam was started by Eisenhower, a Republican. The man who admitted defeat, threw in the towel, in exchange for empty promises of negotiations by the North, was Richard Nixon, another Republican. Like Afghanistan, Vietnam was a Republican-driven show from start to finish. And yet somehow, in the public imagination, Republican propagandists have managed to link it mainly to the Kennedy/Johnson administration.

Your spin on Afghanistan, then, may be a novelty to some, but to those who actually pay attention to history it's really predictable.

It is a well-known and unfortunate fact that, in your country's politics, Republicans are the master bullshitters.

I'm not ashamed to admit that self-described Joe Biden voters - George Bush and Dick Cheney - started the Afghanistan War. Why would I be embarrassed about that? I didn't vote for either Biden or Bush.

[Dukasaur]

I don’t get the connection of all the charity work and all the attacks on Saxi. Love thy neighbor but not this neighbor?

I don't think that exposing someone's lies qualifies as an attack on their person.

You can hate the deed without hating the doer. Otherwise, we would all end up guilty of filicide at some point.

"Info I don't like" is not synonymous with "lies"

There's a huge implicit lie that you've been spinning this entire thread.

The war in Afghanistan was started by George Bush, a Republican. Another Republican, Donnie Drumph, was the one who admitted defeat and signed an agreement with the Taliban providing for American withdrawal in return for absolutely nothing empty promises of negotiation. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has wasted American lives, Republicans have held the Senate. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has raged, Republicans have held the House of Representatives. Defense contractors with strong ties to the Republican party have raked in $5 billion for their useless participation in the war. It's been a Republican show all the way. And all you've done, throughout this thread, is try to spin it as a failing of the Biden and/or Obama administrations. Call it propaganda or misdirection, if you absolutely must have some circumlocution. But for people who speak plainly, it's basically a lie.

The funny part is, you'll probably get away with it. I'm struck by the many obvious parallels with the Vietnam War. Active American involvement in Vietnam was started by Eisenhower, a Republican. The man who admitted defeat, threw in the towel, in exchange for empty promises of negotiations by the North, was Richard Nixon, another Republican. Like Afghanistan, Vietnam was a Republican-driven show from start to finish. And yet somehow, in the public imagination, Republican propagandists have managed to link it mainly to the Kennedy/Johnson administration.

Your spin on Afghanistan, then, may be a novelty to some, but to those who actually pay attention to history it's really predictable.

It is a well-known and unfortunate fact that, in your country's politics, Republicans are the master bullshitters.

I'm not ashamed to admit that self-described Joe Biden voters - George Bush and Dick Cheney - started the Afghanistan War. Why would I be embarrassed about that? I didn't vote for either Biden or Bush.

Any you conveniently dodge the issue of the Drumph-driven collapse.

[saxitoxin]

I don’t get the connection of all the charity work and all the attacks on Saxi. Love thy neighbor but not this neighbor?

I don't think that exposing someone's lies qualifies as an attack on their person.

You can hate the deed without hating the doer. Otherwise, we would all end up guilty of filicide at some point.

"Info I don't like" is not synonymous with "lies"

There's a huge implicit lie that you've been spinning this entire thread.

The war in Afghanistan was started by George Bush, a Republican. Another Republican, Donnie Drumph, was the one who admitted defeat and signed an agreement with the Taliban providing for American withdrawal in return for absolutely nothing empty promises of negotiation. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has wasted American lives, Republicans have held the Senate. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has raged, Republicans have held the House of Representatives. Defense contractors with strong ties to the Republican party have raked in $5 billion for their useless participation in the war. It's been a Republican show all the way. And all you've done, throughout this thread, is try to spin it as a failing of the Biden and/or Obama administrations. Call it propaganda or misdirection, if you absolutely must have some circumlocution. But for people who speak plainly, it's basically a lie.

The funny part is, you'll probably get away with it. I'm struck by the many obvious parallels with the Vietnam War. Active American involvement in Vietnam was started by Eisenhower, a Republican. The man who admitted defeat, threw in the towel, in exchange for empty promises of negotiations by the North, was Richard Nixon, another Republican. Like Afghanistan, Vietnam was a Republican-driven show from start to finish. And yet somehow, in the public imagination, Republican propagandists have managed to link it mainly to the Kennedy/Johnson administration.

Your spin on Afghanistan, then, may be a novelty to some, but to those who actually pay attention to history it's really predictable.

It is a well-known and unfortunate fact that, in your country's politics, Republicans are the master bullshitters.

I'm not ashamed to admit that self-described Joe Biden voters - George Bush and Dick Cheney - started the Afghanistan War. Why would I be embarrassed about that? I didn't vote for either Biden or Bush.

Any you conveniently dodge the issue of the Drumph-driven collapse.

Capitals captured by Taliban under Trump: 0
Capitals captured by Taliban under Biden: 6

there's been a collapse all right

[saxitoxin]

Last days of Kabul!

Afghan City in Panic

“The Taliban are coming. The city is collapsing. Anyone with money has escaped. The poor are left behind,” said shopkeeper Najibullah, who has only one name.

Witnesses said that during the panic in Mazar, they saw few security forces. Anyone who could afford it tried to escape. Travel agents had double the business they have on a normal day. Even airlines doubled their flights.

https://www.voanews.com/south-central-a ... an-advance

President Ghani moves to arm citizens, cooperate with warlords

Afghan President Ashraf Ghani ... is looking to arm civilians to prevent the militant group from overrunning his administration in Kabul.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -civil-war

[DoomYoshi]

The funny part is, you'll probably get away with it. I'm struck by the many obvious parallels with the Vietnam War. Active American involvement in Vietnam was started by Eisenhower, a Republican. The man who admitted defeat, threw in the towel, in exchange for empty promises of negotiations by the North, was Richard Nixon, another Republican. Like Afghanistan, Vietnam was a Republican-driven show from start to finish. And yet somehow, in the public imagination, Republican propagandists have managed to link it mainly to the Kennedy/Johnson administration.

Wikipedia disagrees with your entire assessment.
Here's the numbers, I'll let you figure out who was elected when:


A particularly telling incident is this circus act and protest:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Demo ... Convention

[DirtyDishSoap]

The Taliban just captured a fifth capital in the last hour. Once again, the heavily defended city was taken without bloodshed after the Afghan Army abandoned their posts and fled.

Flights leaving the country are reportedly sold out in Kabul as socialist politicians, feminist professors and transgendered billionaires try to escape.

Nothing and I mean nothing of news from Afghanistan should surprise anyone here.

I think I mentioned in the past that the ANA and AP were pretty useless.

Afghanistan was a shit hole back then, and it's a shit hole now.

I don’t get the connection of all the charity work and all the attacks on Saxi. Love thy neighbor but not this neighbor?

I don't think that exposing someone's lies qualifies as an attack on their person.

You can hate the deed without hating the doer. Otherwise, we would all end up guilty of filicide at some point.

"Info I don't like" is not synonymous with "lies"

There's a huge implicit lie that you've been spinning this entire thread.

The war in Afghanistan was started by George Bush, a Republican. Another Republican, Donnie Drumph, was the one who admitted defeat and signed an agreement with the Taliban providing for American withdrawal in return for absolutely nothing empty promises of negotiation. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has wasted American lives, Republicans have held the Senate. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has raged, Republicans have held the House of Representatives. Defense contractors with strong ties to the Republican party have raked in $5 billion for their useless participation in the war. It's been a Republican show all the way. And all you've done, throughout this thread, is try to spin it as a failing of the Biden and/or Obama administrations. Call it propaganda or misdirection, if you absolutely must have some circumlocution. But for people who speak plainly, it's basically a lie.

The funny part is, you'll probably get away with it. I'm struck by the many obvious parallels with the Vietnam War. Active American involvement in Vietnam was started by Eisenhower, a Republican. The man who admitted defeat, threw in the towel, in exchange for empty promises of negotiations by the North, was Richard Nixon, another Republican. Like Afghanistan, Vietnam was a Republican-driven show from start to finish. And yet somehow, in the public imagination, Republican propagandists have managed to link it mainly to the Kennedy/Johnson administration.

Your spin on Afghanistan, then, may be a novelty to some, but to those who actually pay attention to history it's really predictable.

It is a well-known and unfortunate fact that, in your country's politics, Republicans are the master bullshitters.

It's an equal blame game.

Bush really should be tried as a war criminal for the amount of wasted lives and time we've invested into a country that we had no business in.

Obama should have pulled the curtain on both Iraq and Afghanistan but chose to keep both going on until near the end of his first term and pulling out of Iraq in 2010/2011.

We stayed in Afghanistan for some ridiculous belief that we held previously with Vietnam that we could change that country to a democracy/free market and to give us basically a foothold. Also, resources/oil/precious minerals.

The government itself are master bullshitters. It's not just one party. Not that I go around wearing a tin foil hat with everything the government does, but I have a healthy skepticism basically due to me being a government employee for a time.

[saxitoxin]

The Taliban just captured #7 and #8! For the record, there are 34 provinces in Afghanistan, meaning the Islamic Emirate has essentially taken 25% of the country in less than a week. And, in 20 days, all American air support will withdraw.

Gulbuddin, a police officer in Farah city who like many Afghans goes by one name, said that government officials had fled to an army headquarters several miles outside the city and that the main prison had been breached by Taliban fighters. The streets, he said, were full of freed inmates.

And in the north, the monthslong Taliban stranglehold on the capital of Baghlan Province, Pul-i-Khumri, finally succeeded, forcing government forces to retreat. The city is on the highway connecting the northern provinces to Kabul, meaning the insurgents need only to turn south and advance to begin putting even more pressure the country’s capital.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/10/worl ... ities.html

Plans for the last Americans at the Biden Embassy to flee are underway ...

US officials are no longer talking about six months as the likely timeline for the government of Afghanistan to collapse; they now believe it could happen much more quickly, the two sources said. If an evacuation of the embassy is ordered, the US plan would be to put a number of US troops on the ground at the time to ensure security at the embassy, the airport and the roads and airspace between the two, according to the defense official.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/10/politics ... index.html

[saxitoxin]

The Taliban just captured a fifth capital in the last hour. Once again, the heavily defended city was taken without bloodshed after the Afghan Army abandoned their posts and fled.

Flights leaving the country are reportedly sold out in Kabul as socialist politicians, feminist professors and transgendered billionaires try to escape.

Nothing and I mean nothing of news from Afghanistan should surprise anyone here.

I think I mentioned in the past that the ANA and AP were pretty useless.

Afghanistan was a shit hole back then, and it's a shit hole now.

I don’t get the connection of all the charity work and all the attacks on Saxi. Love thy neighbor but not this neighbor?

I don't think that exposing someone's lies qualifies as an attack on their person.

You can hate the deed without hating the doer. Otherwise, we would all end up guilty of filicide at some point.

"Info I don't like" is not synonymous with "lies"

There's a huge implicit lie that you've been spinning this entire thread.

The war in Afghanistan was started by George Bush, a Republican. Another Republican, Donnie Drumph, was the one who admitted defeat and signed an agreement with the Taliban providing for American withdrawal in return for absolutely nothing empty promises of negotiation. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has wasted American lives, Republicans have held the Senate. For 12 of the 20 years that the war has raged, Republicans have held the House of Representatives. Defense contractors with strong ties to the Republican party have raked in $5 billion for their useless participation in the war. It's been a Republican show all the way. And all you've done, throughout this thread, is try to spin it as a failing of the Biden and/or Obama administrations. Call it propaganda or misdirection, if you absolutely must have some circumlocution. But for people who speak plainly, it's basically a lie.

The funny part is, you'll probably get away with it. I'm struck by the many obvious parallels with the Vietnam War. Active American involvement in Vietnam was started by Eisenhower, a Republican. The man who admitted defeat, threw in the towel, in exchange for empty promises of negotiations by the North, was Richard Nixon, another Republican. Like Afghanistan, Vietnam was a Republican-driven show from start to finish. And yet somehow, in the public imagination, Republican propagandists have managed to link it mainly to the Kennedy/Johnson administration.

Your spin on Afghanistan, then, may be a novelty to some, but to those who actually pay attention to history it's really predictable.

It is a well-known and unfortunate fact that, in your country's politics, Republicans are the master bullshitters.

It's an equal blame game.

Bush really should be tried as a war criminal for the amount of wasted lives and time we've invested into a country that we had no business in.

Obama should have pulled the curtain on both Iraq and Afghanistan but chose to keep both going on until near the end of his first term and pulling out of Iraq in 2010/2011.

We stayed in Afghanistan for some ridiculous belief that we held previously with Vietnam that we could change that country to a democracy/free market and to give us basically a foothold. Also, resources/oil/precious minerals.

The government itself are master bullshitters. It's not just one party. Not that I go around wearing a tin foil hat with everything the government does, but I have a healthy skepticism basically due to me being a government employee for a time.

+1

[HitRed]

faster than the Olympics

[saxitoxin]

Three more capitals fell this morning, the Taliban overran a major ANA base, and Kandahar is now encircled with the Mujhaeidin on the verge of breaking into the city center.

Meanwhile, a new U.S. intelligence assessment says Kabul will only be able to hold out for another 90 days, though that seems pretty optimistic!

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/1 ... -live-news