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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:54 pm

They're at it again. :roll:

The Democrats are trying to overturn the election results, claiming the election was rigged. Just like they tried in 2016.

Iowa Democrat challenges defeat with the House

A Democratic congressional candidate who fell six votes short of winning an open Iowa seat formally contested her loss with the U.S. House on Tuesday, setting the state for a partisan showdown in Congress next month.

Democrat Rita Hart, a former state senator, filed the 176-page complaint with the House Administration Committee, which will take the lead in investigating her contest. At issue, according to the Hart campaign, are 22 ballots that were not included in the initial tally or subsequent recounts but that Hart's campaign says should've been included.

She is asking for a full recount, citing “wildly inconsistent counting procedures from county to county.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/2 ... use-449841
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:00 pm

I have no on the merits or otherwise of the "attached" stuff on the relief bill, I haven't read hundreds of pages of it. I do think that it might have made more sense to just address the main issue. But why did Trump wait until now to object? wasn't he doing his job and following the discussion?
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:26 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:I have no on the merits or otherwise of the "attached" stuff on the relief bill, I haven't read hundreds of pages of it. I do think that it might have made more sense to just address the main issue. But why did Trump wait until now to object? wasn't he doing his job and following the discussion?


He did object via Josh Hawley.

On December 7, Josh Hawley met with the president and requested he veto any legislation that didn't include $1200 stimulus payments.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/0 ... ill-443444

The following day, Josh Hawley reported the president had agreed to the veto.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/0 ... aid-443797

On December 21, the Congress tried to enact legislation against the president's wishes. The Congress was told by Josh Hawley this would not be permitted but decided to try it anyway. They have only themselves to blame.
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:32 pm

MAGA NEWS!!!

President Trump has just vetoed the National Defense Authorization Act!
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:11 pm

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death throws* of a failed insurrection, by a dumpster fire of a leader. Enjoy 4 years of Biden Saxi!


*throes.

You're welcome.


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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:19 pm

saxitoxin wrote:MAGA NEWS!!!

President Trump has just vetoed the National Defense Authorization Act!

Trump: Defund the Armed Forces
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby riskllama on Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:22 pm

i don't think the MIC is going to miss a few billions... :?
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby jimboston on Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:07 am

armati wrote:i just skimmed the thread, saw something about election fraud, i think there are people that dont believe it.
Maybe I read the thread wrong, but as far as fraud is concerned there is proof proof and more proof out there.
Ive seen it, Im not going to dig it up tho.
Just sayin.



It kills me that Trump Loyalists keep claiming there’s proof.

How come they haven’t brought any of it to court?

They talk about it in the media, on Fox, in unofficial Republican State Legislator “Hearings”.
They never brought anything to court that was useful to their case.
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby jimboston on Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:09 am

jonesthecurl wrote:I have no on the merits or otherwise of the "attached" stuff on the relief bill, I haven't read hundreds of pages of it. I do think that it might have made more sense to just address the main issue. But why did Trump wait until now to object? wasn't he doing his job and following the discussion?


Ironically, in the case of vetoing this bill, he may have done the right thing for the wrong reasons.
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby armati on Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:03 pm

"Based on the social media numbers comparing those following Trump compared to those following Biden, Trump had 400-800% more followers."

"On the strictly legal issue of changing the voting rules by administration rather than through the legislature, Texas is 100% correct. Those four states did not comply with even their own election laws."
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:13 pm

armati wrote:"Based on the social media numbers comparing those following Trump compared to those following Biden, Trump had 400-800% more followers."

"On the strictly legal issue of changing the voting rules by administration rather than through the legislature, Texas is 100% correct. Those four states did not comply with even their own election laws."


Social media numbers are not the same as votes bro. Half the people subscribing to trumps twitter hate him but want to see what he says because he's president. Following someone on social media doesn't mean you agree with them or would vote for them.

second one is a quote from god knows who about a case the SUPREME COURT THOUGHT WAS POOP!

Anyone have actual evidence? As has been pointed out numerous times in this thread Trumps own lawyer has yet to present a case of involving actual fraud in an actual court of law.

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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby riskllama on Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:15 pm

i thought his "legal team" actually won one of their cases, mook?
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:16 pm

riskllama wrote:i thought his "legal team" actually won one of their cases, mook?


That is correct, but that case did not involve any accusation of fraud

Heres a decent recap:

https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-541 ... 18a2527931
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby armati on Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:44 pm

"Well, if you've seen it, you should make a date with Giuliani and show it to him."
Your right Duk.

And social media numbers are not votes, but they are a clue to who is popular.
Like Harris #s totally crashing after Tulsi pointed out a few things. Kinda tells ya people dont want Harris.

I dont intend to go find what I saw, I have no idea where it is, I read multiple sites every day and they change. It would take hours.

I dont know if it really matters anyway if the election was "stolen" or not, both parties have the same agenda, you can see they are the same when you follow their actions.
Peace man Trump drops more bombs than anyone has and Biden has supported every war since Gettysberg.
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby HitRed on Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:00 pm

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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:11 pm

armati wrote:"Well, if you've seen it, you should make a date with Giuliani and show it to him."
Your right Duk.

And social media numbers are not votes, but they are a clue to who is popular.
Like Harris #s totally crashing after Tulsi pointed out a few things. Kinda tells ya people dont want Harris.

I dont intend to go find what I saw, I have no idea where it is, I read multiple sites every day and they change. It would take hours.

I dont know if it really matters anyway if the election was "stolen" or not, both parties have the same agenda, you can see they are the same when you follow their actions.
Peace man Trump drops more bombs than anyone has and Biden has supported every war since Gettysberg.


I have evidence, but I can't find it or be bothered to produce it or have it vetted in anyway whatsoever. But it's totally true, and you are all super gullible for not taking my word for it because i'm super informed unlike you guys....

ok boomer.
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:15 pm

HitRed wrote:https://www.regimage.org/number-of-us-drone-strikes-by-year/


https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/ob ... ngs-count/

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/trum ... ian-deaths

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/02/middleea ... index.html

but god told him to just keep bombing and change the rules about reporting it so that means it's ok...
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby HitRed on Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:29 pm

Did you expect the media to come to any other conclusion? Let me guess...Trump is bad - Media
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:45 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
HitRed wrote:https://www.regimage.org/number-of-us-drone-strikes-by-year/


https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/ob ... ngs-count/

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/trum ... ian-deaths

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/02/middleea ... index.html

but god told him to just keep bombing and change the rules about reporting it so that means it's ok...


Uh yeah, that "Obama era executive order" was issued 7.5 years into his presidency, five months before the 2016 election. He was really taking a stand for truth and justice. :roll:

And it was revoked by Trump just last year.

In other words, Obama only spent 8% of his presidency playing by the Obama rule while Trump spent 75% of his presidency playing by the Obama rule.

It's funny how much Rats talk about their belief in science since most of them didn't pass sixth grade math.
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby riskllama on Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:05 pm

yeah, you're not wrong - the US education system is pretty crap... :-s
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby jimboston on Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:42 pm

armati wrote:"Based on the social media numbers comparing those following Trump compared to those following Biden, Trump had 400-800% more followers."


How is Social Media related to votes?


armati wrote:
"On the strictly legal issue of changing the voting rules by administration rather than through the legislature, Texas is 100% correct. Those four states did not comply with even their own election laws."


Says who? Where is this quote from?

I mean... for the record, the US Supreme Court (which includes two Trump appointees) disagreed with this statement. I will trust the legal opinion of the Supreme Court over the unknown person quoted here.
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby HitRed on Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:54 pm

armati wrote:
"On the strictly legal issue of changing the voting rules by administration rather than through the legislature, Texas is 100% correct. Those four states did not comply with even their own election laws."


Jimboston wrote: Says who? Where is this quote from?

I mean... for the record, the US Supreme Court (which includes two Trump appointees) disagreed with this statement. I will trust the legal opinion of the Supreme Court over the unknown person quoted here.


Jim, When did the Supreme Court disagree?
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby riskllama on Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:34 pm

i'm just spitballing here, but how about when they dismissed the lawsuit filed by texas legislators challenging the election results in 4 swing states, maybe?
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby armati on Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:55 pm

In 2016, Wikileaks released emails from the DNC and John Podesta. These emails exposed how the Democrat Party rigged the primary race for Hillary Clinton.

I just ran across another vclue that the U.S. elections are not honust.

The article I found this in explains why Assange is enemy # 1.

Free speech, has to die, its an enemy of...whoever the corruption is.

I wont say my guess, thats just another can of worms and I really dont think it matters.

I think "the bad guys" have already won.

Geez, they won when they killed the Kennedys if you ask me, maybe long before that, actually, definately long before that.
1815 comes to mind.

In any case, Hail Biden!!!
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Re: Trump VETOES Coronavirus Relief Bill

Postby HitRed on Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:14 pm

riskllama wrote:i'm just spitballing here, but how about when they dismissed the lawsuit filed by texas legislators challenging the election results in 4 swing states, maybe?


They ruled TEXAS didn’t have standing.
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