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If Biden is inaugurated in January 2021, by what date will a Republican be back in the White House?

January 2022
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January 2023
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January 2024
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January 2025
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby DBandit70 on Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:06 am

anyone see the post that the leader of BLM/antifa said. he said that if Trump doesn't concede the election by Sunday they will attack Conservatives/Republicans, they said they will block the roads in the Conservatives/Republicans areas and if you attempt to get near them or pass they will shot you down. they said they will be strongly armed
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:11 am

saxitoxin wrote:
jimboston wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
betiko wrote:Wouldn't the opposite situation be hilarious?
Imagine obama after his first mandate facing trump... trump wins 306 to whatever, and obama asks for recounts everywhere after he started 3 month before, being 10 points behind, a conspracy theory that the elections would be rigged and that he will not accept results if he doesn't win :lol: :lol: :lol:


That already happened.

After Trump won in 2016, Democrats launched a bunch of ridiculous campaigns to get Republican electors to change their votes to a compromise candidate, alleging half-baked conspiracy theories about Putin/Russia that were all debunked.

We're just better at this stuff than they are.


Democrats were apoplectic... but this didn’t happen.

Complete fake news with zero basis.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jim's mind - consumed as it is with bizarre Leftist conspiracy theories - is now rewriting history itself to sustain the conspiracies he believes are afoot!

    The last-ditch push for the Electoral College to stop Trump, explained
    By Andrew Prokopandrew@vox.com Updated Dec 19, 2016, 10:06am EST

    Donald Trump won last month’s presidential election. But many liberals and progressives are still clinging to one faint, almost-certainly-doomed hope that he can be blocked from the presidency — through the Electoral College.

    So a new idea emerged: Perhaps some Trump electors could be convinced to ditch him and vote instead for a Republican politician who wasn’t even on the ballot — someone like John Kasich or Mitt Romney.

    This is the pitch from a group of electors calling themselves Hamilton Electors, in reference to the wildly popular Broadway musical. (Just kidding, they’re referencing a Federalist Paper in which Alexander Hamilton says that the Electoral College should be an “intermediate body” that’s less exposed to the people’s “heats and ferments.”)

    So the Hamilton Electors — all but one of whom, so far, are Democrats pledged to vote for Clinton — are saying that they’re willing to defect from Clinton and cast their votes instead for a Republican alternative to Trump, and they’re urging Republican electors to unite with them.

    The idea has caught fire in liberal social media circles, and some celebrities have even gotten involved.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... n-electors



Please read the links you post and try to grasp ‘context’.

... from your linked article...

In modern times, the casting of electoral votes has been a purely ceremonial occasion in which the state results from Election Day have been rubber-stamped.

This year, there’s more drama — because there’s been a highly unusual effort to convince Trump-supporting electors to simply not vote for Trump.


Note the bolded / colored comment.

The big difference, the MATERIAL difference, between this “attempt” and what Trump is doing is simple...

In 2016 it was a few crazy unnamed Leftists talking about this idea on Vox... AND they were attempting to take the Presidency away from Trump (the best example of a Manchurian Candidate we ever saw), and give it to a mainstream Republican.

In this election cycle it isTrump himself spearheading this idea of stealing the election FOR HIMSELF, and he’s supported by a sizable minority of people who think this can REALLY happen.

Also in 2016 you can argue that Trump win the College but lost the popular vote. I don’t think that’s a valid argument... it’s at least logical. This year Trump LOST both the College and the popular vote, so he does even have that specious argument to make.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:23 am

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jimboston wrote:
God... if you throw enough conspiracy theories at the wall at least one will stick... eh?
That’s the plan?


No, the Biden supporters who were put down by Rittenhouse really were child rapists. Don't you believe the mainstream press? Or only what you read on the DNC Facebook page? Or, like many Democrats, do you believe Man-Boy love is a form of sexual diversity that should be celebrated? Love is love?

    Rosenbaum raped five boys, sentencing records reveal
    Kenosha Reporter

    Records reveal Joseph Rosenbaum, who was shot in the head and killed by Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha last week, molested five boys.

    Newly revealed records contain graphic descriptions of sexual abuse for which Rosenbaum was convicted.

    Rosenbaum can be seen chasing Rittenhouse on footage taken just prior to the shooting and throwing a molotov cocktail at him.

    Those on the left were quick to condemn Rittenhouse, who is facing murder charges for the deaths of Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber and the non-fatal shooting of Gaige Grosskreutz.

    https://kenoshareporter.com/stories/552 ... rds-reveal


The conspiracy theory is that these rapists were Biden supporters... and/or even if they were.. it’s somehow related to their crime. It’s not, it’s moot. I don’t even need to check if these people were or were not ever on record supporting Biden. It’s immaterial and inadmissible.

You imply the whole reason they’re rapists is because they voted for Biden! You KNOW this is a logical fallacy but you make it. It’s funny on occasion, but this is YOUR WHOLE SCHTICK!

You need some new material.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:29 am

saxitoxin wrote:Election Updates

A Michigan Senate committee held a special hearing today, which President Trump called into, to investigate potential fraud in that state's election results.

https://triblive.com/news/pennsylvania/ ... ransition/

In Wisconsin the Thomas More Society is seeking an emergency injunction by the Wisconsin Supreme Court to invalidate the election results and order the Wisconsin Legislature to select the state's electors.

https://www.wpr.org/lawsuit-asks-wiscon ... l-election
https://beta.documentcloud.org/document ... petition-1

In Pennsylvania, the Commonwealth Court has ordered the further suspension of certification of Pennsylvania's election results until Friday when it will hear oral arguments in a new lawsuit filed today.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-we ... tion-steps

In Georgia, the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals granted a request for emergency review of the method the state handled mail-in ballots.

https://www.cbs46.com/news/attorney-see ... d2546.html
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EntWWI0XMAE ... name=large


Yawn.

The game is over. The ship has sailed.

You can’t cry that you’re gonna take your ball and go home... no one else is even playing anymore!

You’re like some little boy who’s crying after he lost a game, trying to convince himself he somehow didn’t lose.

It’s very sad.

You and Trumpy started crying even before the game was over. Pathetic.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:34 am

DBandit70 wrote:anyone see the post that the leader of BLM/antifa said. he said that if Trump doesn't concede the election by Sunday they will attack Conservatives/Republicans, they said they will block the roads in the Conservatives/Republicans areas and if you attempt to get near them or pass they will shot you down. they said they will be strongly armed


Link or it didn’t happen.

Since when is Antifa and BLM the same?

Obviously this is a dumb comment, and would be an illegal action.

... of course Trump should’ve conceded weeks ago... and he’s just as idiotic for not doing that.
That said,Trumps actions aren’t technically illegal (yet).
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:39 am

I’ll provide a link for you...

https://www.publishedreporter.com/2020/ ... -deadline/

“alleged” / “self purported” Antifa leader in Pittsburgh.

So even if he is a ‘leader’ it’s only a local leader, not a national leader.
Also, Antifa... not BLM.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby DBandit70 on Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:58 am

jimboston wrote:I’ll provide a link for you...

https://www.publishedreporter.com/2020/ ... -deadline/

“alleged” / “self purported” Antifa leader in Pittsburgh.

So even if he is a ‘leader’ it’s only a local leader, not a national leader.
Also, Antifa... not BLM.



well to start Trump shouldn't concede anyone in there right mind can see all the irregularitys that make no sense if the election was fair, there so many graphs out there that are not right and how come all the states that stopped counting were all democrat ran, plus Trump was way up in all of them Wisconsin/Michigan were over there was not enough votes left to make up the difference for a Biden come back and then all of the sudden on Nov 4 after they stop counting Trucks arrived will 10s of thousands of votes all for Biden. like really how could anyone see that as even possibly being fair.

Thanks for providing the link, a friend told me about it so I didn't have the link.

I totally think blm, I think black people are some of the Nicest people around. But BLM in capitols is a terrorist organization aka antifa a couple months ago I saw a report on how BLM killed like 124 black people and 37 whites in Chicago from there attacks, like really that sounds like they support the black people(and no I don't have the link it was so long ago).

but I'll leave now not sure why I posted in the first place but just wanted to post something.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:34 am

DBandit70 wrote:
jimboston wrote:I’ll provide a link for you...

https://www.publishedreporter.com/2020/ ... -deadline/

“alleged” / “self purported” Antifa leader in Pittsburgh.

So even if he is a ‘leader’ it’s only a local leader, not a national leader.
Also, Antifa... not BLM.



well to start Trump shouldn't concede anyone in there right mind can see all the irregularitys that make no sense if the election was fair, there so many graphs out there that are not right and how come all the states that stopped counting were all democrat ran, plus Trump was way up in all of them Wisconsin/Michigan were over there was not enough votes left to make up the difference for a Biden come back and then all of the sudden on Nov 4 after they stop counting Trucks arrived will 10s of thousands of votes all for Biden. like really how could anyone see that as even possibly being fair.


I don’t know where you get your ‘facts’ but they don’t match reality at all.

There has been and will not be any credible evidence of widespread fraud. I’m sure you can find some fraud and some irregularities... you will see that anytime 150million of anything happens. When 150million people do any activity there will always be small numbers of people cheating, making errors, etc.

All the ‘evidence’ that Trump and his cronies have pointed to as examples of fraud have been debunked. Republican election officials and Republican elected officials in all contested states have made it clear that (though in many cases they personally support Trump) that Biden won.

I know you won’t believe any of this... but I ask you to have an open mind. Provide one example of widespread fraud and see if it can’t be debunked?


DBandit70 wrote:
Thanks for providing the link, a friend told me about it so I didn't have the link.


You’re welcome.


DBandit70 wrote:
I totally think blm, I think black people are some of the Nicest people around. But BLM in capitols is a terrorist organization aka antifa a couple months ago I saw a report on how BLM killed like 124 black people and 37 whites in Chicago from there attacks, like really that sounds like they support the black people(and no I don't have the link it was so long ago).


I’m glad you think blm and I understand your problems with the “official” BLM organization. I have my problems with the leaders of the official BLM organization as well, and I think that the true cause would get more support if the leaders of the “official” BLM organization had less baggage and were not (in some cases) associated with documented terrorists.

That said, BLM has not killed people in Chicago. I am guessing that you are mixing up BLM and The Weather Underground (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground).

I don’t understand all the ties... but The Weather Underground was a domestic terrorist organization and they did kill people. My understanding is there is some overlap between the leadership of BLM and former members of the Weather Underground... mostly in the background and in some philosophies. I think there’s enough overlap that it makes me worry about the goals and methods of the official BLM organization. I fear these people are usurping the real (lowercase) blm movement for their own purposes. That’s likely the root of your belief that BLM has killed people.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:21 pm

jimboston wrote:I’ll provide a link for you...

https://www.publishedreporter.com/2020/ ... -deadline/

“alleged” / “self purported” Antifa leader in Pittsburgh.

So even if he is a ‘leader’ it’s only a local leader, not a national leader.
Also, Antifa... not BLM.


I thought not having a single 'leader' is sort of the raison-d'etre of Antifa? the FBI leadership says Antifa is an ideology not an organization...so really no one can speak for Antifa as a hole.

Then again if you watch people all day on TV just repeat something over and over then I guess it's going to convince some people.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:52 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
jimboston wrote:I’ll provide a link for you...

https://www.publishedreporter.com/2020/ ... -deadline/

“alleged” / “self purported” Antifa leader in Pittsburgh.

So even if he is a ‘leader’ it’s only a local leader, not a national leader.
Also, Antifa... not BLM.


I thought not having a single 'leader' is sort of the raison-d'etre of Antifa? the FBI leadership says Antifa is an ideology not an organization...so really no one can speak for Antifa as a hole.

Then again if you watch people all day on TV just repeat something over and over then I guess it's going to convince some people.


*whole

My understanding is the same... I’m just repeating what the news links said.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby DBandit70 on Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:28 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
jimboston wrote:I’ll provide a link for you...

https://www.publishedreporter.com/2020/ ... -deadline/

“alleged” / “self purported” Antifa leader in Pittsburgh.

So even if he is a ‘leader’ it’s only a local leader, not a national leader.
Also, Antifa... not BLM.


I thought not having a single 'leader' is sort of the raison-d'etre of Antifa? the FBI leadership says Antifa is an ideology not an organization...so really no one can speak for Antifa as a hole.

Then again if you watch people all day on TV just repeat something over and over then I guess it's going to convince some people.



I never saw an idea that started so many fires and cause so much destruction lol
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:44 pm

DBandit70 wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
jimboston wrote:I’ll provide a link for you...

https://www.publishedreporter.com/2020/ ... -deadline/

“alleged” / “self purported” Antifa leader in Pittsburgh.

So even if he is a ‘leader’ it’s only a local leader, not a national leader.
Also, Antifa... not BLM.


I thought not having a single 'leader' is sort of the raison-d'etre of Antifa? the FBI leadership says Antifa is an ideology not an organization...so really no one can speak for Antifa as a hole.

Then again if you watch people all day on TV just repeat something over and over then I guess it's going to convince some people.



I never saw an idea that started so many fires and cause so much destruction lol



Many ideas cause destruction and sometimes the destruction is necessary to make way for a new and better things... sometime not, sometimes it just leads to death and destruction.

The American Revolutionary War was caused by ideas.

Karl Max’s ideas led to lots of turmoil.

Religious ideas have cause fires and destruction for millennia.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby mookiemcgee on Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:44 am

DBandit70 wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
jimboston wrote:I’ll provide a link for you...

https://www.publishedreporter.com/2020/ ... -deadline/

“alleged” / “self purported” Antifa leader in Pittsburgh.

So even if he is a ‘leader’ it’s only a local leader, not a national leader.
Also, Antifa... not BLM.


I thought not having a single 'leader' is sort of the raison-d'etre of Antifa? the FBI leadership says Antifa is an ideology not an organization...so really no one can speak for Antifa as a hole.

Then again if you watch people all day on TV just repeat something over and over then I guess it's going to convince some people.



I never saw an idea that started so many fires and cause so much destruction lol


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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby DBandit70 on Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:34 am

heres evidence of voter fraud
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:54 am

DBandit70 wrote:heres evidence of voter fraud


This is not evidence... this is a video on a Youtube Channel of videos posted by Trump, and all it shows is two of his cronies talking a and pointing at papers. Also the video appears to be from some website/show called “Rightside Media”... that’s not biased.

I would like to see the papers and the judges/hearing officials reactions to the statements made by these two people. All you see in this video is statements with no data... they don’t provide links to the documents, they don’t provide anything tangible. Yet people believe the statements from biased sources without question... it’s called Confirmation Bias.

This is the raw video from CSPAN... the Youtube link you posted starts around 1hr 10minutes or so in this video.

Again... this is the claim Giuliani is claiming... he’s talking but not providing evidence.

Also note... this is a “Republican Hearing”... it is NOT an official hearing and none of the “witnesses” are sworn in under oath.
It’s like a Town Hall meeting... people can say whatever and because there’s no swearing in, no oath, it’s not official or legal and the “witnesses” can NOT be held in contempt if they lie or exaggerate.


You might want to look at some of these, unbiased reporting.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-giul ... 020-11-25/

https://www.inquirer.com/news/pennsylva ... 01125.html

https://wjactv.com/news/local/rudy-giul ... epublicans

I fully expect you to claim this is evidence... but if any of this is true why didn’t Giuliani bring this “evidence” to court, where it could be rebuffed and scrutinized. He didn’t bring it to court because it wouldn’t stand up as evidence in a Court of Law. Instead he brings it to a ‘hearing’ that has no legal standing.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:32 pm

DBandit70 wrote:heres evidence of voter fraud


Shocking testimony. Thanks for posting.

Even though Americans disagree on some things, the one thing we can all agree on is that 80 year old Biden is an illegitimate president who came to power through illegal means.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:30 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
DBandit70 wrote:heres evidence of voter fraud


Shocking testimony. Thanks for posting.

Even though Americans disagree on some things, the one thing we can all agree on is that 80 year old Biden is an illegitimate president who came to power through illegal means.


1) What does his age have to do with his ‘legitimacy’ based on your believe in legal vs. illegal vote outcome?

2) We do not all agree with your statement. Only about 40%... substantially less than “all” (otherwise known as 100%).

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politic ... red-2020-p

That’s 40% of Registered Voters... not 40% of all Americans. You include unregistered and the number drops further.

Granted, 40% is still way. to high a number. It’s dangerous to our country, and being negatively influenced by the crazy man in the White House.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:35 pm

True, jimboston. I know I speak on behalf of all Americans when I say the illegitimate 80 year old Biden must resign or be impeached.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:56 pm

saxitoxin wrote:True, jimboston. I know I speak on behalf of all Americans when I say the illegitimate 80 year old Biden must resign or be impeached.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

When bad logic fails... when humor fails... just smile, agree, and ignore. Keep moving.

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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby Evil Semp on Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:21 pm

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/pol ... 428186002/

Recount in Milwaukee County Wisconsin paid for by President Trump cost him about $12,000 each. That is for 125 votes he gained. He paid 3 million for two counties to be recounted so I used 1.5 million for the cost in Milwaukee County. Oh and yes Biden increased his vote total 257. A net increase of 125 votes for Biden. Good work Republicans.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:41 pm

Evil Semp wrote:https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/27/milwaukee-county-recount-wraps-up-biden-adding-his-margin/6428186002/

Recount in Milwaukee County Wisconsin paid for by President Trump cost him about $12,000 each. That is for 125 votes he gained. He paid 3 million for two counties to be recounted so I used 1.5 million for the cost in Milwaukee County. Oh and yes Biden increased his vote total 257. A net increase of 125 votes for Biden. Good work Republicans.


It is good work. Each additional day this is kept in the news, additional voters lose faith in the legitimacy of Biden's win. We've spent millions undermining Biden's ability to govern and it's still November. Wait until the Senate starts shredding his cabinet picks and the SCOTUS starts striking down his EOs! Gonna be epic. Total government paralysis.
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Postby saxitoxin on Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:57 pm

MAGA news! Split screen inauguration anyone???

President Trump is reportedly considering kicking off his 2024 campaign during President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration, The Daily Beast reported.

Two sources said that Trump has floated the idea of a 2024-related event during Biden's inauguration week, possibly on Inauguration Day.


This is great because it gives Biden no honeymoon. Attack ads begin running immediately and every sneeze and misstep by Biden gets dissected. From day one he'll have no time to govern because he'll be fundraising and campaigning. Let the 2024 race begin!
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby jimboston on Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:43 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/27/milwaukee-county-recount-wraps-up-biden-adding-his-margin/6428186002/

Recount in Milwaukee County Wisconsin paid for by President Trump cost him about $12,000 each. That is for 125 votes he gained. He paid 3 million for two counties to be recounted so I used 1.5 million for the cost in Milwaukee County. Oh and yes Biden increased his vote total 257. A net increase of 125 votes for Biden. Good work Republicans.


It is good work. Each additional day this is kept in the news, additional voters lose faith in the legitimacy of Biden's win. We've spent millions undermining Biden's ability to govern and it's still November. Wait until the Senate starts shredding his cabinet picks and the SCOTUS starts striking down his EOs! Gonna be epic. Total government paralysis.


Trump and his diehards have done a good job if the sole goal is to undermine the foundations upon which this country is built.

There’s no truth in these accusations... if there were then bringing it to light would be warranted. The fact is he’s just tearing things down to tear them down with no goal other than protect his ego... and maybe some million-and-one-shot “miracle”. In many aspects of life you shouldn’t “concede” till it’s over... but if the cost of acting like this destroys the foundations of our Republic then the cost is too high and will ultimately destroy his legacy.
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:00 pm

jimboston wrote:There’s no truth in these accusations...


Big deal.

See: Russiagate

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