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Re: RIP RBG

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:31 am

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jimboston wrote:It’s funny how the Republicans felt it was improper to fill a Supreme Court Vacancy when Obama was President. Scalia passed away in February 2016 and the Senate thought that the best course of action, the “just and fair” course, was to wait 8+ months for an election and another 2 months for a new President to be sworn in.

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/29/62446725 ... atters-now

Now the Republican Senate feels the best course is to get a new Justice ASAP, even though the election is less than 2 months away.


Wrong.

NPR is, quite simply, lying to you. The Republicans didn't say that.

In 2016 the Republicans said that a judicial appointment should not be confirmed when two criteria simultaneously exist (a) the president is a lame duck in his final year (not standing for for reelection), and, (b) the government is divided (the White House and Senate are owned by different parties).

These two criteria don't exist today. The incumbent president is not a lame duck and the government is not divided.

See: https://www.mcconnell.senate.gov/public ... A1154B55D0

This policy was perfectly consistent with custom and was not something the GOP invented in 2016. From the same release -

    "... the Senate has not filled a vacancy arising in an election year when there was divided government since 1888 ...

The Rats want to wipe away 130 years of custom and precedent and reinvent the rules of the game for their own benefit. Tough luck!


This is revisionist history.


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Re: RIP RBG

Postby HitRed on Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:32 am

I might look up what He said during the Kavanaugh hearings. Might post some.
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:38 am

Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who is the chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said weeks after Scalia's death: "I want you to use my words against me. If there's a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say, 'Lindsey Graham said let's let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:43 am

March 16, 2016, with Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland, McConnell stood his ground: It is important for the Senate to "give the people a voice in the filling of this vacancy" by waiting until the next president takes office. "The American people may well elect a president who decides to nominate Judge Garland for Senate consideration," McConnell said. "The next president may also nominate someone very different. Either way, our view is this: Give the people a voice."
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby HitRed on Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:47 am

Dems were for the wall but once Trump liked the idea too the dems were against it.
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:57 am

jonesthecurl wrote:March 16, 2016, with Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland, McConnell stood his ground: It is important for the Senate to "give the people a voice in the filling of this vacancy" by waiting until the next president takes office. "The American people may well elect a president who decides to nominate Judge Garland for Senate consideration," McConnell said. "The next president may also nominate someone very different. Either way, our view is this: Give the people a voice."


That's the selective quote the lying press use. The full quote - direct from a McConnell press release dated February 22, 2016 -

“Of course it’s within the president’s authority to nominate a successor even in this very rare circumstance — remember that the Senate has not filled a vacancy arising in an election year when there was divided government since 1888, almost 130 years ago — but we also know that Article II, Section II of the Constitution grants the Senate the right to withhold its consent, as it deems necessary. “It’s clear that concern over confirming Supreme Court nominations made near the end of a presidential term is not new. Given that we are in the midst of the presidential election process, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee and I believe that it is today the American people who are best-positioned to help make this important decision — rather than a lame-duck president whose priorities and policies they just rejected in the most-recent national election.”

https://www.mcconnell.senate.gov/public ... A1154B55D0


The two conditions he described - (a) lame duck president [a president not seeking reelection], and, (b) divided government, are not present. The president is seeking reelection and we have a united government with the Grand Ol' Party controlling both the White House and the Senate.

Besides, even if the Senate had voted on Garland's nomination in 2016 it would have simply rejected it since the GOP had the majority, just like now. Not sure why Democrats are mad the GOP spared Garland the humiliation of formal rejection instead of simply letting his nomination quietly expire and allowing him to fade back into obscurity on the circuit court.
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:07 pm

Ginsburg's cooling corpse isn't even in the ground yet and Democrats are already sending out fundraising emails with pictures of her pre-death body to try raise money from her decaying remains as they sob their crocodile tears.

ActBlue, the platform used by Democrats to raise funds online, saw a massive surge in donations following the death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on Friday night.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/act-blue-d ... ip-senate/


Stay classy, 'rats!
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby riskllama on Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:27 pm

pre-death body? she got a new one after she passed? seems kinda pointless if you're dead...*shrugs*
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby 2dimes on Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:36 pm

She might not have it yet, you get them when you're resurrected. She might be resting, waiting for God's boy to come get her in the future.
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby riskllama on Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:37 pm

do you think we get to choose?
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:39 pm

riskllama wrote:do you think we get to choose?


riskllama will choose Posh Spice circa 2008

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Re: RIP RBG

Postby riskllama on Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:47 pm

yeah, def. food for thought.
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby HitRed on Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:48 pm

AOC calls cutting yards a form of 'torture' on grass.
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby 2dimes on Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:50 pm

saxitoxin wrote:weirdo
Take it back. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be a hot chick.

riskllama wrote:do you think we get to choose?


Obviously not since we're not qualified. I suspect bigottoxin is wrong as usual and like me you'd choose a cross between John Holms and Conan era Arnold.

Instead by my calculations you'll probably get one without genitalia.
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby riskllama on Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:39 pm

HitRed wrote:AOC calls cutting yards a form of 'torture' on grass.


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Re: RIP RBG

Postby jimboston on Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:50 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
The two conditions he described - (a) lame duck president [a president not seeking reelection], and, (b) divided government, are not present. The president is seeking reelection and we have a united government with the Grand Ol' Party controlling both the White House and the Senate.

Besides, even if the Senate had voted on Garland's nomination in 2016 it would have simply rejected it since the GOP had the majority, just like now. Not sure why Democrats are mad the GOP spared Garland the humiliation of formal rejection instead of simply letting his nomination quietly expire and allowing him to fade back into obscurity on the circuit court.


Your definition of “Lame Duck” doesn’t match the universally accepted definition.
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:59 pm

jimboston wrote:
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The two conditions he described - (a) lame duck president [a president not seeking reelection], and, (b) divided government, are not present. The president is seeking reelection and we have a united government with the Grand Ol' Party controlling both the White House and the Senate.

Besides, even if the Senate had voted on Garland's nomination in 2016 it would have simply rejected it since the GOP had the majority, just like now. Not sure why Democrats are mad the GOP spared Garland the humiliation of formal rejection instead of simply letting his nomination quietly expire and allowing him to fade back into obscurity on the circuit court.


Your definition of “Lame Duck” doesn’t match the universally accepted definition.


uh huh


    [2014] President Obama is now officially a lame duck: no more elections left, and facing GOP majorities in the Senate, House, governors’ mansions — and even the Supreme Court, in a sense, where five of the nine justices were appointed by Republicans.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html


    Lame duck politicians are serving out their final terms because they have lost a re-election or are no longer eligible to serve. The term is often used to describe sitting presidents who have served two terms, and have entered their last year.

    https://people.howstuffworks.com/lame-d ... sident.htm
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby riskllama on Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:07 pm

it also refers to a duck who can no longer fly.
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby 2dimes on Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:48 pm

Poor bugger. Time to cook thon crispy.
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby riskllama on Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:00 pm

i never much cared for duck - too fatty. and when i had it for stupid chinese new years, it was crispy enough, but it had a whole pile of bone fragments in it. almost as if it was killed w/a hammer or some other blunt instrument, was not at all impressed... :-s .
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:18 pm

BREAKING NEWS!

The people of America chant "Fill that seat! Fill that seat!" at the president.



In response to the wishes of the people, the president agreed to immediately appoint a new justice to the SCOTUS, and that the new justice will be a woman with a minimum C-cup breast size.

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Re: RIP RBG

Postby riskllama on Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:29 pm

*some of the people
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Re: RIP RBG

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:30 pm

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Re: RIP RBG

Postby 2dimes on Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:18 pm

Ok, I laughed.

riskllama wrote:i never much cared for duck - too fatty. and when i had it for stupid chinese new years, it was crispy enough, but it had a whole pile of bone fragments in it. almost as if it was killed w/a hammer or some other blunt instrument, was not at all impressed... :-s .


They use a cleaver and do chicken like that too you spoiled westerner.

We just found another place to get Butter Chicken from not as good as our two favorites, but better than I have ever had made at home so far.
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