Nobel Peace Prize a la Trump

by **HitRed** on Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:54 am

After conquering half the world as predicted by CNN, Trump is nominated....

by **betiko** on Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:14 pm

lol that's the best joke ever.... I thought you were kidding :lol:

As funny as Hitler being nominated for the Nobel Peace prize in 1939... yeah it's a thing too. I guess trump being nominated is as much of a joke as hitler nominated, given all the similarities. They now have this in common too!

by **jonesthecurl** on Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:23 pm

Previous nominations were shown to be fakes. Is this one too?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-forged-fake-police-fbi-investigation-a8238286.html

by **strike wolf** on Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:02 pm

Well on one hand, he almost started a war with Iran while threatening war crimes (and may have been behind a coup attempt in Venezuala). On the other, despite calling the UAE-Israel a 'peace' treaty being a bit of a misnomer considering the countries were never at war (and despite having an official boycott of Israel, UAE was already trading and coordinating with Israel against Iran), it is from everything Ive read still a big deal.

So would be a joke if he actually won but doubt he'll actually get many votes.

by **saxitoxin** on Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:11 pm

First American president not to start a new war since Carter counts for something.

Obama - Libya
Bush - Iraq, Afghanistsn
Clinton - Serbia
Bush - Iraq
Reagan - Grenada

by **strike wolf** on Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:48 pm

Why start new wars when you can just escalate the war crimes of the ones youre in? Trump does prefer trade wars but give him 4 more years and we will probably be at war with Iran if no one else.

by **saxitoxin** on Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:42 pm

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strike wolf wrote:Why start new wars when you can just escalate the war crimes of the ones youre in?

," strike wolf said without evidence.

Trump planning to withdraw more US troops from Iraq

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your ... from-iraq/

by **mookiemcgee** on Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:21 pm

saxitoxin wrote:First American president not to start a new war since Carter counts for something.

Obama - Libya
Bush - Iraq, Afghanistsn
Clinton - Serbia
Bush - Iraq
Reagan - Grenada

More fake Saxi News... He actually declared war against Covid-19 in 2020.

by **Dukasaur** on Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:57 am

mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:First American president not to start a new war since Carter counts for something.

Obama - Libya
Bush - Iraq, Afghanistsn
Clinton - Serbia
Bush - Iraq
Reagan - Grenada

More fake Saxi News... He actually declared war against Covid-19 in 2020.

Murdering an Iranian general on a diplomatic mission definitely counts as an act of war, even if Iran didn't take the bait and fight back.

by **mrswdk** on Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:00 am

[quote="Dukasaur"Murdering an Iranian general on a diplomatic mission[/quote]

No wonder the US is now sanctioning the ICC to prevent it from investigating US war crimes.

by **saxitoxin** on Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:30 am

Dukasaur wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:First American president not to start a new war since Carter counts for something.

Obama - Libya
Bush - Iraq, Afghanistsn
Clinton - Serbia
Bush - Iraq
Reagan - Grenada

More fake Saxi News... He actually declared war against Covid-19 in 2020.

Murdering an Iranian general on a diplomatic mission definitely counts as an act of war,

So Trump killed one soldier in a war zone while Obama killed 5.000 soldiers in a war zone. I'm willing to concede that.

even if Iran didn't take the bait and fight back.

With what?

by **DoomYoshi** on Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:09 pm

strike wolf wrote:Why start new wars when you can just escalate the war crimes of the ones youre in? Trump does prefer trade wars but give him 4 more years and we will probably be at war with Iran if no one else.

This is mandatory for the Nobel peace prize. That is why the deadliest president in history (the one who personally ordered 10 times more drone strikes than W.) won the Nobel Peace Prize a few years ago.

In all honesty, Trump should win since the Arab League finally agrees to peace instead of Palestine (which are mutually exclusive terms).

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... ndemn.html

by **mookiemcgee** on Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:30 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Why start new wars when you can just escalate the war crimes of the ones youre in? Trump does prefer trade wars but give him 4 more years and we will probably be at war with Iran if no one else.

This is mandatory for the Nobel peace prize. That is why the deadliest president in history (the one who personally ordered 10 times more drone strikes than W.) won the Nobel Peace Prize a few years ago.

In all honesty, Trump should win since the Arab League finally agrees to peace instead of Palestine (which are mutually exclusive terms).

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... ndemn.html

Trump has ordered more drone stikes than Obama, and he also suspended the rules about report them.

by **DoomYoshi** on Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:42 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Why start new wars when you can just escalate the war crimes of the ones youre in? Trump does prefer trade wars but give him 4 more years and we will probably be at war with Iran if no one else.

This is mandatory for the Nobel peace prize. That is why the deadliest president in history (the one who personally ordered 10 times more drone strikes than W.) won the Nobel Peace Prize a few years ago.

In all honesty, Trump should win since the Arab League finally agrees to peace instead of Palestine (which are mutually exclusive terms).

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... ndemn.html

Trump has ordered more drone stikes than Obama, and he also suspended the rules about report them.

This is not true. Here's some more relevant information:
https://warontherocks.com/2019/04/trump ... it-matter/

Obama is the deadliest president in U.S. history.

by **riskllama** on Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:46 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Why start new wars when you can just escalate the war crimes of the ones youre in? Trump does prefer trade wars but give him 4 more years and we will probably be at war with Iran if no one else.

This is mandatory for the Nobel peace prize. That is why the deadliest president in history (the one who personally ordered 10 times more drone strikes than W.) won the Nobel Peace Prize a few years ago.

In all honesty, Trump should win since the Arab League finally agrees to peace instead of Palestine (which are mutually exclusive terms).

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... ndemn.html

Trump has ordered more drone stikes than Obama, and he also suspended the rules about report them.

This is not true. Here's some more relevant information:
https://warontherocks.com/2019/04/trump ... it-matter/

Obama is the deadliest president in U.S. history.

you sure, DY? i would have thought it would've been either LBJ or Nixon because Vietnam...

by **Dukasaur** on Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:17 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Why start new wars when you can just escalate the war crimes of the ones youre in? Trump does prefer trade wars but give him 4 more years and we will probably be at war with Iran if no one else.

This is mandatory for the Nobel peace prize. That is why the deadliest president in history (the one who personally ordered 10 times more drone strikes than W.) won the Nobel Peace Prize a few years ago.

In all honesty, Trump should win since the Arab League finally agrees to peace instead of Palestine (which are mutually exclusive terms).

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... ndemn.html

Trump has ordered more drone stikes than Obama, and he also suspended the rules about report them.

This is not true. Here's some more relevant information:
https://warontherocks.com/2019/04/trump ... it-matter/

Obama is the deadliest president in U.S. history.

No, I would say Bush is, due to the Iraq war.

It's not just those who died in the original attack on Iraq. All those who have died in the civil war since then can be laid at his feet. Iraq had a stable government, which Bush destroyed and replaced with anarchy. 600,000 have died to date, at it may be decades more before stability returns to Iraq. By then, the death toll might be in the millions.

by **DoomYoshi** on Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:54 am

Bush never ordered people killed by assassination drones. Those were just casualties of war. Obama takes the credit for all the civilians killed by drone strikes as if he pulled the trigger.

by **Dukasaur** on Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:27 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Bush never ordered people killed by assassination drones. Those were just casualties of war. Obama takes the credit for all the civilians killed by drone strikes as if he pulled the trigger.

What the f*ck do drones have to do with it? I'm talking about total people killed as a result of one's actions.

by **DoomYoshi** on Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:23 am

Dukasaur wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Bush never ordered people killed by assassination drones. Those were just casualties of war. Obama takes the credit for all the civilians killed by drone strikes as if he pulled the trigger.

What the f*ck do drones have to do with it? I'm talking about total people killed as a result of one's actions.

That's an arbitrary choice of metric, and not the one being used in this thread.

By declaring war, the Iraqis had the opportunity to surrender, so the Washington hawks are not culpable of their death. However, there is no chance to surrender to a drone.

It's like Kennedy betrayed his allies and ended up shot, but that doesn't mean we count his own shooting on his death tally. Only the people he personally killed or ordered killed.

by **mookiemcgee** on Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:58 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Bush never ordered people killed by assassination drones. Those were just casualties of war. Obama takes the credit for all the civilians killed by drone strikes as if he pulled the trigger.

What the f*ck do drones have to do with it? I'm talking about total people killed as a result of one's actions.

That's an arbitrary choice of metric, and not the one being used in this thread.

Ummm actually this thread is about the nobel peace prize, your are the one choosing drones as an arbitrary metric of how deadly a president is.

by **DoomYoshi** on Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:19 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Bush never ordered people killed by assassination drones. Those were just casualties of war. Obama takes the credit for all the civilians killed by drone strikes as if he pulled the trigger.

What the f*ck do drones have to do with it? I'm talking about total people killed as a result of one's actions.

That's an arbitrary choice of metric, and not the one being used in this thread.

Ummm actually this thread is about the nobel peace prize, your are the one choosing drones as an arbitrary metric of how deadly a president is.

It's not arbitrary. It's the best metric which paints Obama in the least flattering light.

by **saxitoxin** on Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:53 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Bush never ordered people killed by assassination drones. Those were just casualties of war. Obama takes the credit for all the civilians killed by drone strikes as if he pulled the trigger.

What the f*ck do drones have to do with it? I'm talking about total people killed as a result of one's actions.

That's an arbitrary choice of metric, and not the one being used in this thread.

Ummm actually this thread is about the nobel peace prize, your are the one choosing drones as an arbitrary metric of how deadly a president is.

mookie wrote:Trump has ordered more drone stikes than Obama, and he also suspended the rules about report them.

by **karel** on Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:36 pm

unlike lame ass obama who did nothing and got 1,hmm funny how that works out trump gives some peace in mideast and they slam him,amnd obama sat on his ass and let the usa get ran over,plz spare me