The MSM is Actively Lying, Censoring, and Spying

[mookiemcgee]

I personally think the jury is still out on this drug(combo of drugs+zinc). I think there is some evidence showing very early use of it, in combo with other drugs can have some positive effect, but it's not the only drug that has shown some promise if given super early(the jury is still out on Nicotine therapy which I mentioned a few months ago, and there are some others out there). In general virus treatments are way more effective if you give them early. No treatment including HCQ is showing dramatically positive effects once you are at the point of hospitalization (the virus is already out of control in your body).

I could see it having immediate use in 'outbreak' situations in convalescence homes where a few people have gotten really sick, and there is some expectation that the rest of the population may be infected but not yet showing symptoms. In these cases there is likely a doctor on site to administer it. I don't think that it is a good idea for people to be taking this at home as some sort of prophylactic, without medical supervision.

Just my opinion... HCQ is not 'the answer to defeating COVID-19', it's one of several treatments showing some positive outcome only when take early.

[mookiemcgee]

I guess one of the doctors in that now pulled video (Stella Immanuel), also believes sex with demons in your dreams gives you STDs, and there is Alien DNA in current medical treatments being used. Fun stuff!

I thought the article linked in your second post was really good JD (Reisch).

Do you have a link for the video that was pulled? Thankfully the internet is pretty good preventing censorship (unless you are in Iran or China), even if individual platforms find some things to be against their terms. edit - nevermind, found it:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/zr04GsUupOwk/

Honestly there are a several of the doctors where I think they have totally valid points very much worth hearing, and some others that felt more like trainwrecks. Mixed bag. I really don't think you can claim you treated 350 people and none have died therefore it's a cure. There have been loads and loads of people who've died while being treated with this combo (not by her). That kind of anecdotal evidence is not at all scientific and a doctor should know that. She was def the biggest trainwreck in that video, it wasn't really close.

I do think it was a silly thing to ban, but imo these are private companies who can make their own content decisions. This one is certainly not a good look for facebook... but frankly if there starts being protests on the street about facebook, they will probably be organized on facebook and protest locations broadcast on twitter

[Jdsizzleslice]

Been silent for the past few days now. MSM coverage of Cannon Hinnant is disgusting. They only covered the story after they received extreme backlash. However...

• Where is the cry for racism here?
• Where is the cry for justice from BLM or Antifa?
• Where is the cry for justice from the MSM?
• Why are there no riots in North Carolina (or anywhere for that matter) right now?

Honestly, I think the MSM honestly just don't care about anything OTHER than any situation that will benefit their narrative.

Sick, dishonest, and uncaring. We see this all the time. Notice how there was also no outcry from the MSM after the DOJ found that Yale University ACTUALLY was discriminating against several ethnicities? That's because this did not fit their narrative.

[mrswdk]

Notice how there was also no outcry from the MSM after the DOJ found that Yale University ACTUALLY was discriminating against several ethnicities? That's because this did not fit their narrative.

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[Dukasaur]

Been silent for the past few days now. MSM coverage of Cannon Hinnant is disgusting. They only covered the story after they received extreme backlash. However...

• Where is the cry for racism here?
• Where is the cry for justice from BLM or Antifa?
• Where is the cry for justice from the MSM?
• Why are there no riots in North Carolina (or anywhere for that matter) right now?

Honestly, I think the MSM honestly just don't care about anything OTHER than any situation that will benefit their narrative.

Sick, dishonest, and uncaring. We see this all the time. Notice how there was also no outcry from the MSM after the DOJ found that Yale University ACTUALLY was discriminating against several ethnicities? That's because this did not fit their narrative.

I think this whole thing pretty much proves BLM's point.

Hundreds of blacks slaughtered every year. Nobody could care less. One white kid is murdered, everybody goes ballistic.

Where was your concern last time some 6-year old black kid was murdered?

[Jdsizzleslice]

I think this whole thing pretty much proves BLM's point.

Quite the contrary.

The kid was white, the suspect was black. There is no evidence of racism here (unless the suspect reveals it was racially motivated). No outcry.

We look at George Floyd's where he was black and the officer was white. There is no evidence that the kneeling on the neck was racism (unless the officer reveals it was racially motivated). Riots.

If both acts are assumed or alleged to be just as bad on the moral scale, where are the riots for the kid who died? The reason why there are none is because the kid's death doesn't fit the MSM's narrative. It's a damn shame when people are used for a political agenda.

Hundreds of blacks slaughtered every year.

Correct, with a huge stipulation. Hundreds of blacks are slaughtered every year by other blacks.

Nobody could care less.

Correct, with a huge stipulation. The politicians in the areas with these high murder rates don't care, and haven't for years. My question is are you attributing "nobody" to "everyone"?

One white kid is murdered, everybody goes ballistic.

Incorrect. There has been no outcry for this kid's murder. The MSM has not gone "ballistic." (Side-note, this is an amazing out of context quote, lol )

Where was your concern last time some 6-year old black kid was murdered?

If there is a situation to this one (in which a 5 year old kid was shot in the head) then I will look at the story and condemn just like this one. Race has nothing to do with whether or not someone's actions are justifiable.

All I am asking for here is equal MSM outrage for Cannon as was presented for George.

[jonesthecurl]

All I am asking for here is equal MSM outrage for Cannon as was presented for George.

Was Cannon murdered by a police officer supposedly performing his duties?

[jimboston]

Been silent for the past few days now. MSM coverage of Cannon Hinnant is disgusting. They only covered the story after they received extreme backlash. However...

• Where is the cry for racism here?
• Where is the cry for justice from BLM or Antifa?
• Where is the cry for justice from the MSM?
• Why are there no riots in North Carolina (or anywhere for that matter) right now?

Honestly, I think the MSM honestly just don't care about anything OTHER than any situation that will benefit their narrative.

Sick, dishonest, and uncaring. We see this all the time. Notice how there was also no outcry from the MSM after the DOJ found that Yale University ACTUALLY was discriminating against several ethnicities? That's because this did not fit their narrative.

MSM only has a narrative as far as it promotes their financial interests.

There’s no underlying conspiracy or beyond what gets eyeballs and increases revenue.

[Dukasaur]

I think this whole thing pretty much proves BLM's point.

Quite the contrary.

The kid was white, the suspect was black. There is no evidence of racism here (unless the suspect reveals it was racially motivated). No outcry.

We look at George Floyd's where he was black and the officer was white. There is no evidence that the kneeling on the neck was racism (unless the officer reveals it was racially motivated). Riots.

If both acts are assumed or alleged to be just as bad on the moral scale, where are the riots for the kid who died? The reason why there are none is because the kid's death doesn't fit the MSM's narrative. It's a damn shame when people are used for a political agenda.

I would not assume both acts to be just as bad on the moral scale. All murder is wrong, unquestionably, but someone who kills in a moment of blind rage as not as culpable as someone who has all the time in the world to reconsider his actions and decides to go ahead anyway.

Hundreds of blacks slaughtered every year.

Correct, with a huge stipulation. Hundreds of blacks are slaughtered every year by other blacks.

I'll let this writer at the Milwaukee Independent answer that one:

According to 2018 data, when race of offenders and victims are known, (which is in just 45.7 percent of murders), 81 percent of whites are listed as killed by other whites, 15.5 percent of whites are listed as killed by blacks, 88.9 percent of blacks are listed as killed by other blacks and 8 percent of blacks are listed as killed by whites.

Most people are unaware of these statistics. As a result, they yell and scream that black people need to stop killing other black people with out ever once saying white people need to stop killing other white people. I hear many consistently say that unless we stop killing each other, we should not complain about the police killing black people. People of all racial groups tend to kill people who look like them.

The police on the other hand, kill blacks disproportionately. Data from 2013-2019 shows that Black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as White Americans to be shot and killed by police officers. In Wisconsin, Blacks are 6.32 % of residents but accounted for 24% of those killed by police according to Mapping Police Violence.

Between 2013 and 2019, police in the United States killed 7,666 people. Black people have been 28% of those killed by police since 2013 despite being only 13% of the population. Of those 7,666 killed by police over 1,000 were unarmed and 17.3% of the black people who died as a result of police interactions were unarmed, a rate higher than for Whites (13.3%), and Hispanics (15.5%).

Nobody could care less.

Correct, with a huge stipulation. The politicians in the areas with these high murder rates don't care, and haven't for years.

LOL, I see you're working up the the traditional "blame the Democratic mayors" dodge that Republicans like to trot out. Since the causes of the violence are almost all Federal policies, there's sweet f*ck all the Democratic mayors can do about them, except be scapegoated for your campaigns.

My question is are you attributing "nobody" to "everyone"?

One white kid is murdered, everybody goes ballistic.

Incorrect. There has been no outcry for this kid's murder. The MSM has not gone "ballistic." (Side-note, this is an amazing out of context quote, lol )

I wasn't talking about the MSM, I was talking about you.

Where was your concern last time some 6-year old black kid was murdered?

If there is a situation to this one (in which a 5 year old kid was shot in the head) then I will look at the story and condemn just like this one. Race has nothing to do with whether or not someone's actions are justifiable.

All I am asking for here is equal MSM outrage for Cannon as was presented for George.[/quote]
Why should there be? Cannon's murderer was a run-of-the-mill lowlife who flipped out during an argument with his neighbour and shot the neighbour's kid. Was swiftly arrested, and will almost certainly spend the remainder of his existence behind bars. What's to be outraged about? Justice is being done.

George's murderers were veteran cops who had the training and experience to subdue him without killing him. Even if one of them had flipped out, the others had a moral imperative to speak to their buddy and say, "hey listen, this is excessive force. Time to dial it down." None of them did. They were not charged until after enormous publicity, and will probably get off anyway. Justice may or may not be done, more likely not. George's murder was part of a long-standing pattern of police brutality. If it was an isolated incident, it would not have produced that kind of outrage. If the killers had been promptly arrested, as Cannon's killer was, there would probably not have been much outrage.

[jonesthecurl]

Correct, with a huge stipulation. Hundreds of blacks are slaughtered every year by other blacks.

True, but,,,aAccording to the FBI. of the 2925 black people murdered in 2018, 2600 were killed by other blacks. On the other hand, of the 3315 white people murdered, 2677 were murdered by other white people. Where is the fuss about white on white murders?

[mrswdk]

Nest thing you know Obama will probably find out that little boy’s killer wrote a rap and invite him to visit the White House.

[jimboston]

Nest thing you know Obama will probably find out that little boy’s killer wrote a rap and invite him to visit the White House.

What is this obsession with Obama in this Forum?

How can Obama invite someone to visit the White House?

[mookiemcgee]

Correct, with a huge stipulation. Hundreds of blacks are slaughtered every year by other blacks.

True, but,,,aAccording to the FBI. of the 2925 black people murdered in 2018, 2600 were killed by other blacks. On the other hand, of the 3315 white people murdered, 2677 were murdered by other white people. Where is the fuss about white on white murders?

How many whites were killed by blacks out of curiosity? from watching Fox news I would have thought whites were only killed by illegal immigrants from Central America????

[jonesthecurl]

514, and 234 vice-versa.

[mookiemcgee]

514, and 234 vice-versa.

I've always been curious how mixed race people factor in to these numbers... is it like the one drop rule for being labeled as black by the FBI? If you are half white half black and you kill someone is it like a 1/2 point for each?

[Jdsizzleslice]

Was Cannon murdered by a police officer supposedly performing his duties?

Was George shot in the head whilst riding his bike in a neighbors yard?

MSM only has a narrative as far as it promotes their financial interests.

Ergo, corruption.

I would not assume both acts to be just as bad on the moral scale. All murder is wrong, unquestionably, but someone who kills in a moment of blind rage as not as culpable as someone who has all the time in the world to reconsider his actions and decides to go ahead anyway.

So, in your eyes, blind rage with intent is better than killing slowly over time with no intent?

I'll let this writer at the Milwaukee Independent answer that one

Thank you for proving my point that 99% of black people are not targets of racist killings.

LOL, I see you're working up the the traditional "blame the Democratic mayors" dodge that Republicans like to trot out. Since the causes of the violence are almost all Federal policies, there's sweet f*ck all the Democratic mayors can do about them, except be scapegoated for your campaigns.

Did I say Democrat?

I wasn't talking about the MSM, I was talking about you.

Am I "everyone"?

Why should there be? George's killer was an officer who had double digit complaints against him and flipped out during Geroge's detainment and inexcusably held his knee on George's neck for over 8 minutes. Was arrested, and will almost certainly spend the remainder of his existence behind bars. What's to be outraged about? Justice is being done.

Fixed your quote for you.

True, but,,,aAccording to the FBI. of the 2925 black people murdered in 2018, 2600 were killed by other blacks. On the other hand, of the 3315 white people murdered, 2677 were murdered by other white people. Where is the fuss about white on white murders?

If white people kill other white people and there is no fuss, then why should there be a fuss if black people kill other black people?

[mrswdk]

Nest thing you know Obama will probably find out that little boy’s killer wrote a rap and invite him to visit the White House.

What is this obsession with Obama in this Forum?

How can Obama invite someone to visit the White House?

Text, email, phone call, private message on Facebook, getting Michelle to ask them next to she sees them at a function etc.

[Dukasaur]

LOL, I see you're working up the the traditional "blame the Democratic mayors" dodge that Republicans like to trot out. Since the causes of the violence are almost all Federal policies, there's sweet f*ck all the Democratic mayors can do about them, except be scapegoated for your campaigns.

Did I say Democrat?

Lol, you don't need to. You're not the first right-winger to bring these hackneyed old arguments to this forum. Just as they have a predictable beginning, they have a predictable end. After the "most blacks are killed by blacks" trope (Yes, most crimes are local acts between people in the same community, and since most American communities are racially segregated, that means most whites will be killed by whites and most blacks will be killed by blacks, yawn. It completely ignores the salient point that most killings by official mandate are white cops killing black prisoners.) you will switch to the "most blacks are killed in cities with Democrat mayors" trope (which nicely ignores the fact that most of the policies which encourage killing are Federal policies over which mayors and other local politicians have little or no influence.)

I wasn't talking about the MSM, I was talking about you.

Am I "everyone"?

Obviously "everyone" is an exaggeration. I should have said, "every right-winger." You're not the only right-winger I talk to, you know. Two days before you posted your little bit of canned outrage here, I was already seeing it on my Facebook page. Not just the same content, but even the same phrases. It's funny how you claim to be defenders of individualism, but you all goose-step so beautifully in unison. Bannon or Carlson holds up your cue-cards of hate, and you chant with a precision that rivals the local church of Krishna Consciousness.

[Jdsizzleslice]

Lol, you don't need to. You're not the first right-winger to bring these hackneyed old arguments to this forum. Just as they have a predictable beginning, they have a predictable end. After the "most blacks are killed by blacks" trope (Yes, most crimes are local acts between people in the same community, and since most American communities are racially segregated, that means most whites will be killed by whites and most blacks will be killed by blacks, yawn. It completely ignores the salient point that most killings by official mandate are white cops killing black prisoners.) you will switch to the "most blacks are killed in cities with Democrat mayors" trope (which nicely ignores the fact that most of the policies which encourage killing are Federal policies over which mayors and other local politicians have little or no influence.)

Thank you thought police, for thinking you know what I am thinking even though I don't ever say it!

Obviously "everyone" is an exaggeration. I should have said, "every right-winger." You're not the only right-winger I talk to, you know. Two days before you posted your little bit of canned outrage here, I was already seeing it on my Facebook page. Not just the same content, but even the same phrases. It's funny how you claim to be defenders of individualism, but you all goose-step so beautifully in unison. Bannon or Carlson holds up your cue-cards of hate, and you chant with a precision that rivals the local church of Krishna Consciousness.

Ok, well you used the phrase "everyone" and then said next post me alone, specifically, so there is no logical consistency in your argument. You group me and then in the next phrase claim individuality. Which is it?

You're starting to sound like Jim, Duk. You're making absolute statements and starting thought policing. Careful, I wouldn't want you to end up in that sort of particular head-space.

[jimboston]

MSM only has a narrative as far as it promotes their financial interests.

Ergo, corruption.

How is this corruption?

MSM are (for the most part) Private for Profit Enterprises.
Their job is to make money and we both agree their main interest is making money.
How is that corruption?

Now you can say this “does serve the public interest”, and that’s a valid argument....

... but what is the solution? Regulations? Gov’t Run Media?

I would rather have a self-serving independent media than a government run media.

[jimboston]

Nest thing you know Obama will probably find out that little boy’s killer wrote a rap and invite him to visit the White House.

What is this obsession with Obama in this Forum?

How can Obama invite someone to visit the White House?

Text, email, phone call, private message on Facebook, getting Michelle to ask them next to she sees them at a function etc.

I guess Obama can technically invite someone to the White House... but when the person walks up to the door they’ll find they can’t get in.

An invitation to the White House by Obama today is as useful as an invitation to the White House by me.
(Maybe even less useful.)

[Dukasaur]

Lol, you don't need to. You're not the first right-winger to bring these hackneyed old arguments to this forum. Just as they have a predictable beginning, they have a predictable end. After the "most blacks are killed by blacks" trope (Yes, most crimes are local acts between people in the same community, and since most American communities are racially segregated, that means most whites will be killed by whites and most blacks will be killed by blacks, yawn. It completely ignores the salient point that most killings by official mandate are white cops killing black prisoners.) you will switch to the "most blacks are killed in cities with Democrat mayors" trope (which nicely ignores the fact that most of the policies which encourage killing are Federal policies over which mayors and other local politicians have little or no influence.)

Thank you thought police, for thinking you know what I am thinking even though I don't ever say it!

It's pretty clear to see where someone is going with an argument when you've seen a pattern repeat umpteen times.

Or is pattern recognition something you don't believe?

Obviously "everyone" is an exaggeration. I should have said, "every right-winger." You're not the only right-winger I talk to, you know. Two days before you posted your little bit of canned outrage here, I was already seeing it on my Facebook page. Not just the same content, but even the same phrases. It's funny how you claim to be defenders of individualism, but you all goose-step so beautifully in unison. Bannon or Carlson holds up your cue-cards of hate, and you chant with a precision that rivals the local church of Krishna Consciousness.

Ok, well you used the phrase "everyone" and then said next post me alone, specifically, so there is no logical consistency in your argument. You group me and then in the next phrase claim individuality. Which is it?

Context does matter. The meaning of words is dependent on the context in which they are used. In the context of the OP, it was pretty clear that I meant "you and all the people who think like you." It really isn't rocket science to discern which exact shade of a word's meaning is relevant in which situation.

[Jdsizzleslice]

I would rather have a self-serving independent media than a government run media.

But you don't have self-serving independent media. Ergo, corruption.

It's pretty clear to see where someone is going with an argument when you've seen a pattern repeat umpteen times.

Or is pattern recognition something you don't believe?

Justification for thought policing. You shouldn't make excuses for that. Period. That type of argument is an appeal to probability, which is a known logical fallacy with faulty generalizations. As I have told Jim before, Duk, don't assume. Spock would not be proud.

Context does matter. The meaning of words is dependent on the context in which they are used. In the context of the OP, it was pretty clear that I meant "you and all the people who think like you." It really isn't rocket science to discern which exact shade of a word's meaning is relevant in which situation.

You did explain the context, and you did clarify, by saying yourself that "everyone" meant "me."

I wasn't talking about the MSM, I was talking about you.

Making your argument based upon an ecological fallacy (attributing one to a group, or a group to one) is illogical in discussion.

[jimboston]

I would rather have a self-serving independent media than a government run media.

But you don't have self-serving independent media. Ergo, corruption.

Yes. You do. MSM serves its’ own bottom line.
That’s the definition of self-serving.