Yet another racist killing by US police

[mrswdk]

Yeah, this is pretty fucked up. It's hard to watch, and should come with a warning that you are watching a man die slowly over 10 min.

I'm going to post a link, but not embed it because it's not something you should watch unintentionally.

https://youtu.be/3dvPfabCnfs

i can't watch it more than 1 minute. Oh, and congrats americans, showing a police officer choke a controled black man to death is fine content for youtube, but beware if some renaissance piece of art shows half a nipple. That is perma ban material from youtube.

[mrswdk]

I saw a report they are charging the cop with 3rd degree murder.

It's funny because in a different thread, about a different recent American police killing of a black person, I used the word 'murder' in relation to the killing at which point jim and co immediately jumped on me accusing me of debasing the English language because it's only 'murder' if it was a premeditated deliberate attempt to kill someone and apparently pointing a gun at a black person then pulling the trigger multiple times is not an attempt to kill them.

And now here is this police officer being charged with murder after pointing his knee at a black person's throat and squashing it till he died.

I guess mrswdk does know how to use the English language after all.

[mrswdk]

People should be outraged and should protest, peacefully. They should not loot or burn down buildings or destroy property. I encourage all to protest peacefully, but riots accomplish nothing and (I will say it again) turn-off the ‘silent majority’.

People protested peacefully after Eric Garner's murder and here we are six years later with the police still routinely carrying out identical murders of black people who do trivial things like 'smiling aggressively' or 'putting their hands in their pockets'. One million people took to the streets to object to the invasion of Iraq and the UK government ignored them and invaded Iraq anyway. Peaceful protests clearly achieve nothing.

If you believe that peaceful protest is so effective that it can overcome institutionalised state police brutality then why do Americans need guns to protect them from government tyranny? Surely all they need is some sharpies and a piece of cardboard to write catchy slogans on?

[saxitoxin]

Riots are turning out great for Team Trump. We lost Minnesota's 10 electoral votes in 2016 but now the polling has narrowed to 5 points ...

A new Minnesota Poll conducted by the Star Tribune, MPR News and KARE 11 found Biden ahead of Trump 49% to 44% in the general election matchup less than six months ahead of Election Day. Biden fell just short of a majority, but 7% of Minnesotans said they are still undecided.

https://www.startribune.com/poll-biden- ... 570709192/

Trump is playing this perfectly, condemning the death of what's his name while simultaneously condemning the looting. As if on cue, the Farmer-Labor Party is imploding with the DFL governor blaming the DFL mayor and visa versa. Meanwhile, the 7% of undecided Minnesota voters are ripe for the picking.

Let's just hope the protesters mostly burn down the houses and businesses of undecided voters and somehow avoid DFL and Republican voters. No one could pay for that kind of sentiment. The rioters may be Trump's ace in the hole in a critical swing state.

[Mr_Adams]

Never under estimate the power of the DNC to ruin a great American city by 46 years of uninterrupted single party rule.

[saxitoxin]

Autopsy released. According to the Failing New York Times, Floyd was drunk as a skunk and the malt liquor got him.

Potentially complicating the prosecution of Mr. Chauvin, preliminary results from an autopsy found that Mr. Floyd, 46, did not appear to have died from strangulation or asphyxiation. “Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease,” prosecutors said, also listing “potential intoxicants.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/us/m ... floyd.html

Expect an acquittal of the officer, followed by a wrongful termination suit against the City of Minneapolis that will be settled out of court for $2 MM. Two days of additional riots following the announcement of the settlement, followed by four days of huffing and puffing on Twitter, then back to normal. A few hundred SJWs score criminal convictions for Riot and have their voter registrations canceled before November's election. Chauvin takes his millions and enjoys an early retirement to a beach house in Kokomo. Bonanza for everyone (except the shattered remains of the DFL).

[mrswdk]

The people are fed up, the Molotovs are lit. The time for revolution is now:

New York, Atlanta and other regions have seen violent unrest, while the White House was briefly locked down.

Minnesota remains the most volatile region, with curfews ordered for the Twin Cities of Minneapolis-Saint Paul from 20:00 to 06:00 on Friday and Saturday evening.

Protesters defied the curfew on Friday. Fires, many from burning cars, were visible in a number of areas with fire officials unable to reach some sites.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52857334

Meanwhile, statements from black Americans about how this type of police behaviour is pervasive, systemic and repeated make a mockery of the claims made by apologists attempting to dismiss such police brutality as 'a one-off' or 'exceptional':

On a hot Thursday morning in the Longfellow neighbourhood of Minneapolis, a 28-year-old father named Nuwman stood outside the Minneapolis Police Department's Third Precinct drinking a large coffee as smoke wafted past from the smouldering ruins of nearby buildings.

"This is everyday. Everyday that these police officers have enforced their protocol has led up to this," said Nuwman, his voice rising with emotion over the din of protesters and sirens. "This is not just a singular moment. This is a cataclysm. A combination of all the things that happened before."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52854037

[saxitoxin]

The President is fed-up with the incompetent DFL-controlled state troops and has placed federal troops on standby to take control of the cess pool of a state. The DFL-run Minnesota government got them into this mess and their bumbling National Guard can't get them out. The President will act with the leadership they lack and invoke the Insurrection Act to declare Minnesota in rebellion and impose direct rule from Washington.

As unrest spread across dozens of American cities on Friday, the Pentagon took the rare step of ordering the Army to put several active-duty U.S. military police units on the ready to deploy to Minneapolis. Soldiers from Fort Bragg in North Carolina and Fort Drum in New York have been ordered to be ready to deploy within four hours if called, according to three people with direct knowledge of the orders. Soldiers in Fort Carson, in Colorado, and Fort Riley in Kansas have been told to be ready within 24 hours. The person said the military units would be deployed under the Insurrection Act of 1807.

“If this is where the president is headed response-wise, it would represent a significant escalation and a determination that the various state and local authorities are not up to the task of responding to the growing unrest,” Brad Moss, a Washington D.C.-based attorney, who specializes in national security.

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz ordered 500 of his National Guard troops into Minneapolis, St. Paul, and surrounding communities.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/30/pentago ... polis.html

After a long week of mayhem and terror in Minneapolis, the immediate introduction of overwhelming federal forces to smash the rioters will endear the majority of bystanders to the president who was able to achieve what their DFL governor could not. Securing Minnesota's 10 electoral votes could be the greatest victory of the Trump 2020 campaign. It doesn't really matter if people in California or New York are offended when tanks roll over the SJWs, they were never going to vote Trump anyway and have thus guaranteed the irrelevance of their coming outrage.

[saxitoxin]

50 U.S. Code CHAPTER 13—Insurrection

The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order.

The President may, by proclamation, declare that the inhabitants of such State, or of any section or part thereof where such insurrection exists, are in a state of insurrection against the United States; and thereupon all commercial intercourse by and between the same and the citizens thereof and the citizens of the rest of the United States shall cease and be unlawful so long as such condition of hostility shall continue.

All goods and chattels, wares and merchandise, coming from such State or section into the other parts of the United States, or proceeding from other parts of the United States to such State or section, by land or water, shall, together with the vessel or vehicle conveying the same be forfeited to the United States.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/chapter-13

[jimboston]

I saw a report they are charging the cop with 3rd degree murder.

It's funny because in a different thread, about a different recent American police killing of a black person, I used the word 'murder' in relation to the killing at which point jim and co immediately jumped on me accusing me of debasing the English language because it's only 'murder' if it was a premeditated deliberate attempt to kill someone and apparently pointing a gun at a black person then pulling the trigger multiple times is not an attempt to kill them.

And now here is this police officer being charged with murder after pointing his knee at a black person's throat and squashing it till he died.

I guess mrswdk does know how to use the English language after all.

Please point out where I corrected your use of that word in that context.

Murder doesn’t have to be premeditated, I know this and would’ve never used that as a reason for chastising your abuse of English.
You make enough errors, I don’t have to fabricate or dig very deep to find them.

[jimboston]

People should be outraged and should protest, peacefully. They should not loot or burn down buildings or destroy property. I encourage all to protest peacefully, but riots accomplish nothing and (I will say it again) turn-off the ‘silent majority’.

People protested peacefully after Eric Garner's murder and here we are six years later with the police still routinely carrying out identical murders of black people who do trivial things like 'smiling aggressively' or 'putting their hands in their pockets'. One million people took to the streets to object to the invasion of Iraq and the UK government ignored them and invaded Iraq anyway. Peaceful protests clearly achieve nothing.

If you believe that peaceful protest is so effective that it can overcome institutionalised state police brutality then why do Americans need guns to protect them from government tyranny? Surely all they need is some sharpies and a piece of cardboard to write catchy slogans on?

So now I know who I’d round up first if I was the Gov’t.


So, as Saxi pointed out earlier... you feel stealing TV’s communicates a better message to “the Man”, and is more likely to accomplish change?

It’s funny how you’re all for protests in the USA, but you scream bloody murder when the people of Hong Kong want. to voice their political views.

hyp·o·crite
/ˈhipəˌkrit/
noun: hypocrite; plural noun: hypocrites
1) a person who indulges in hypocrisy.
2) mrswdk

[jimboston]

Autopsy released. According to the Failing New York Times, Floyd was drunk as a skunk and the malt liquor got him.

Potentially complicating the prosecution of Mr. Chauvin, preliminary results from an autopsy found that Mr. Floyd, 46, did not appear to have died from strangulation or asphyxiation. “Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease,” prosecutors said, also listing “potential intoxicants.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/us/m ... floyd.html

Expect an acquittal of the officer, followed by a wrongful termination suit against the City of Minneapolis that will be settled out of court for $2 MM. Two days of additional riots following the announcement of the settlement, followed by four days of huffing and puffing on Twitter, then back to normal. A few hundred SJWs score criminal convictions for Riot and have their voter registrations canceled before November's election. Chauvin takes his millions and enjoys an early retirement to a beach house in Kokomo. Bonanza for everyone (except the shattered remains of the DFL).

The other side of the trolling debate, we have Saxi in the Right Corner.

The main cop involved has a history of aggressive behavior and complaints.
He should’ve been removed from office years ago.

Blind loyalty by the police department for their own perpetuates this problem.

Blind loyalty by the left and right extremists to their sides makes the “debate” silly.

[DoomYoshi]

One can also imagine a situation where many bystanders were carrying guns, and could force some kind of standoff

This is the Democrats election slogan in 2020 - Chaos and Anarchy. They promise to introduce unrestrained mayhem in the streets of America where police are powerless to intervene and where every heat-packing gunman runs his own block. They want to do to America what they've done to Downtown Detroit, South Central LA, Chicago, and virtually every city in which they've been put in charge. That's fine, that's a campaign promise the president can run against.

In what world of fake news do you live where the democrats are want more citizens to own guns, and Trump and Moscow Mitch want to restrict them?

Are you opposed to the entire constitution Saxi, or just the second amendment?

Supporters of the 2nd Amendment believe in responsible firearms ownership not Wild West standoffs at high noon with the sheriff.

We also support the rigorous enforcement of firearms ownership bans against convicted felons, thereby ensuring most of the persons protesting in Minnesota are completely outgunned at all times.

No, the whole point of the second amendment is that you can form a militia and defend yourself against the felons who bear badges, the felons who live in Governor's houses and the felons who occupy Washington.

You are 100% wrong.

Like, wrong to the level of somebody shouting "ah, my penis won't stop bleeding in my ear". That's how wrong you are.

The founding fathers didn't agree on a lot, but they all agreed that government is by definition corrupt and can not be trusted.

[riskllama]

People should be outraged and should protest, peacefully. They should not loot or burn down buildings or destroy property. I encourage all to protest peacefully, but riots accomplish nothing and (I will say it again) turn-off the ‘silent majority’.

People protested peacefully after Eric Garner's murder and here we are six years later with the police still routinely carrying out identical murders of black people who do trivial things like 'smiling aggressively' or 'putting their hands in their pockets'. One million people took to the streets to object to the invasion of Iraq and the UK government ignored them and invaded Iraq anyway. Peaceful protests clearly achieve nothing.

If you believe that peaceful protest is so effective that it can overcome institutionalised state police brutality then why do Americans need guns to protect them from government tyranny? Surely all they need is some sharpies and a piece of cardboard to write catchy slogans on?

So now I know who I’d round up first if I was the Gov’t.


So, as Saxi pointed out earlier... you feel stealing TV’s communicates a better message to “the Man”, and is more likely to accomplish change?

It’s funny how you’re all for protests in the USA, but you scream bloody murder when the people of Hong Kong want. to voice their political views.

hyp·o·crite
/ˈhipəˌkrit/
noun: hypocrite; plural noun: hypocrites
1) a person who indulges in hypocrisy.
2) mrswdk

lol, i thought about posting this as well, but was too lazy.

[mrswdk]

So, as Saxi pointed out earlier... you feel stealing TV’s communicates a better message to “the Man”, and is more likely to accomplish change?

Who said anything about stealing TVs?

It’s funny how you’re all for protests in the USA, but you scream bloody murder when the people of Hong Kong want. to voice their political views.

I suppose in the binary world you live in there are only two possible stances: 'all violence protest is always good' and 'all violent protest is always bad'.

Given you apparently are of the 'all violent protest is always bad' POV then I guess you will be supporting repeal of the second amendment because citizens should never be taking arms against their government.

[mrswdk]

‘As a black American I am terrified’

Black Americans discuss the terror that pervades their day to day life, living with under the constant threat of police brutality and executions:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us- ... -terrified

[saxitoxin]

Trump approval up 4 points in the last 4 days. The President is playing this perfectly. Trump should do what's necessary in Blue and Red states but not lift a finger in swing states that have Democrat governors; hope for mayhem and chaos to engulf Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. Every undecided voter impacted by rioting SJWs is a Trump voter tomorrow.



Also loving that the SJWs looted CNN Center, home of all the cherished members of the precious Fourth Estate! (I guess they didn't get the memo!) The rats are eating the rats. In the second term - with no more elections ahead - Trump will have a free hand and can use the Army to guarantee 100 years of Trumpist government.

[mrswdk]

If these events and these scenes were playing out in Hong Kong, all of OT would be pouring into this thread to write post after post about how the riots prove the federal government are blood-thirsty dictators, stating the federal governments deserves to be dealing with this violence and cheerleading foreign governments that decide to give political and/or material support to the rioters. I wonder how quickly those same OT posters will appear in this thread making similar posts about these American riots?

[saxitoxin]

Obviously there should be no widespread roll-out of postal voting after this. If you can safely loot the Target of 8K TVs without fear of Covid-19, you can safely vote.

Democrats are absolutely running wild today in Democrat-governed states - looting, raping, pillaging, and burning the shitholes they live in; grabbing as much free stuff as they can. Imagine what they'll do after Trump is reelected. They may simply disintegrate in a vapor of rage!

[mrswdk]

Why do OT's CIA trollbot posters care more about whether Hong Kong's citizens are free to post angry rants on Facebook than they do about whether millions of black Americans in their own country are able to live a life free of poverty and violence?

[DoomYoshi]

Why do OT's CIA trollbot posters care more about whether Hong Kong's citizens are free to post angry rants on Facebook than they do about whether millions of black Americans in their own country are able to live a life free of poverty and violence?

Hong Kong is one of the richest cities in the world.

Minneapolis has warmongerer.

I don't see how these things are even remotely connected.

Hear some words of wisdom from the POTUSA with the most deported illegals in history:
https://www.cnn.com/2014/11/25/politics ... index.html

[mrswdk]

“Light ‘em up!” Watch the moment a battalion of armed police swept through a quiet residential neighbourhood in suburban Minneapolis firing indiscriminately at any civilians they found outside:

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/ ... eir-porch/

[jimboston]

‘As a black American I am terrified’

Black Americans discuss the terror that pervades their day to day life, living with under the constant threat of police brutality and executions:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us- ... -terrified

Interesting the BBC talks to a couple black Americans and then just assumes all black Americans share the same view.

I was at a Barbershop yesterday, which has both black and white barbers and a diverse clientele.
While there the subject of George Floyd came up and a few of us were talking about it.

I didn’t participate much as I was on the other side of the counter and my mask hampered my ability to project my voice.
It was mostly two black guys talking with me and my barber (a black man) making comments.
In the shop at the time we’re 5 black guys (age 30something to 40something) and 3 white guys (age 30something to 50something).

The MAIN POINT of the (black) guy who initiated the subject was that he was disgusted by the protestors who were looting and burning stuff, because he thought it was a distraction and lost ‘support’... basically what I have been saying. The barber (a black guy) to whom he was talking agreed, though he was more focused on the murder of George Floyd. They both agreed the looting was wrong and that the death of George Floyd was a murder. Neither seemed scared.

My sample size seems as statistically valid as BBC’s.