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Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspect

Postby mrswdk on Fri May 15, 2020 9:03 am

Armed police arrive to reports of a man with a sword, but quickly realised he posed no active danger to those around him and so took some photos with him before quickly leaving the scene:

Armed police were called after a man dressed as a medieval knight with a 3ft sword was spotted out for his daily exercise.

Three members of the firearms unit were sent after a family saw Lennon Thomas walking at Hendre Lake in St Mellons, Cardiff.

"Perhaps it was a little stupid of me to bring the sword as from a distance it does look realistic," said the 20-year-old Dungeons and Dragons fan.

"I joked to some passers by who saw the incident that if I were in America I would have been shot on sight."


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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby mrswdk on Fri May 15, 2020 9:07 am

Meanwhile in America, plain clothes police burst into the house of an innocent paramedic in the middle of the night and then murdered her after her boyfriend, who had no way of knowing who they even were, attempted to fight them off:

Across the country, many people were starting to work from home as the grip of coronavirus quickly spread. But Taylor, a 26-year-old certified EMT, was an essential worker, still going to help at two Louisville hospitals as the city braced for the worst.

On the night that Taylor was killed, the officers were serving a no-knock search warrant in a narcotics investigation. Police have since said the officers knocked and announced themselves before entering.

Lawyers for Taylor’s family and her boyfriend Kenneth Walker, who was with Taylor that night, say they did not. Walker said he thought he was witnessing a home invasion, prompting him to pick up his gun and fire a shot that hit an officer in the leg after a battering ram plowed through the apartment’s door.

Police responded by firing more than 20 times. Taylor was hit by eight rounds. According to an affidavit filed by Walker’s defense lawyer Rob Eggert: “You could look through one of the bullet holes and see into the next-door apartment.”

Additionally, they said police were searching for a suspect who had already been apprehended.


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Postby KoolBak on Fri May 15, 2020 9:49 am

MURDER

NOUN
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

VERB
kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.


You need to learn your words. Your willful inciting of hate and fear is truly disgusting.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby mrswdk on Fri May 15, 2020 9:57 am

IOW you want to defend the actions of the police but are unable to, because the are indefensible, so you're instead going to play your usual smoke-and-mirrors game of semantics to avoid the issue.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby saxitoxin on Fri May 15, 2020 1:58 pm

"I joked to some passers by who saw the incident that if I were in America I would have been shot on sight.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-52677514


Not a joking matter. This is why America isn't infested with weirdo Incel LARPers and the UK is.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri May 15, 2020 3:43 pm

More than half of LARPers I've met are women. Most games I've seen mentioned (other than Nordic, lately) have been written or run by Americans.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby saxitoxin on Fri May 15, 2020 4:15 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:More than half of LARPers I've met are women. Most games I've seen mentioned (other than Nordic, lately) have been written or run by Americans.


That doesn't mean anything unless you have the figures for games written by Americans per 100K because the U.S. has a 5.5 times bigger population than the UK.

The only thing we know for sure from this thread is mrswdk is an Incel.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby mrswdk on Fri May 15, 2020 6:27 pm

The only thing we know for sure from this thread is that you know loads about LARPers.

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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby jimboston on Sat May 16, 2020 4:25 pm

mrswdk wrote:IOW you want to defend the actions of the police but are unable to, because the are indefensible, so you're instead going to play your usual smoke-and-mirrors game of semantics to avoid the issue.


How come every time some points out a flaw in your post you resort to calling it ‘semantics’?

Is it just possible that we are tired of your abuse of English?
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby saxitoxin on Sat May 16, 2020 4:46 pm

jimboston wrote:Is it just possible that we are tired of your abuse of English?


mrswdk abuses himself a lot more than English; sometimes twice a day, three times if there's no LARP that day
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby jonesthecurl on Sat May 16, 2020 5:56 pm

jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:IOW you want to defend the actions of the police but are unable to, because the are indefensible, so you're instead going to play your usual smoke-and-mirrors game of semantics to avoid the issue.


How come every time some points out a flaw in your post you resort to calling it ‘semantics’?

Is it just possible that we are tired of your abuse of English?


Maybe we're just tired of some antics.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby mrswdk on Sat May 16, 2020 6:24 pm

jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:IOW you want to defend the actions of the police but are unable to, because the are indefensible, so you're instead going to play your usual smoke-and-mirrors game of semantics to avoid the issue.


How come every time some points out a flaw in your post you resort to calling it ‘semantics’?

Is it just possible that we are tired of your abuse of English?


abuse: "treat with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly"

But I am not being violent to the English language! Therefore, by the law of jimboston/KoolBak I have just won this back-and-forth and any further retorts from either of you will be void.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby jimboston on Sun May 17, 2020 6:30 am

mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:IOW you want to defend the actions of the police but are unable to, because the are indefensible, so you're instead going to play your usual smoke-and-mirrors game of semantics to avoid the issue.


How come every time some points out a flaw in your post you resort to calling it ‘semantics’?

Is it just possible that we are tired of your abuse of English?


abuse: "treat with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly"

But I am not being violent to the English language! Therefore, by the law of jimboston/KoolBak I have just won this back-and-forth and any further retorts from either of you will be void.


https://www.google.com/search?q=abuse+d ... ent=safari

abuse: “1. use (something) to bad effect or for a bad purpose; misuse.”

Nice that you. selected the definite at best suits your needs while ignoring the first definition Google retrieves.

Since you agreed to the premise though it appears you lost.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby mrswdk on Sun May 17, 2020 4:24 pm

Well I figured I had free choice given none of the definitions fit.

inb4 'you didn't figure and there is no such thing as free choice'. Yeah I've got your number.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby hotfire on Mon May 18, 2020 5:39 am

the first definition listed under a word is the king of the word, silly. the others are just peasants.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby jimboston on Mon May 18, 2020 7:10 am

All the definitions apply.... but clearly if one of the man definitions ‘fits’ the intent i,plies by the sentence, then that’s the meaning intended by the writer... and the one an intelligent reader would clearly receive.

So you’re either intentionally obfuscating or not intelligent.

If the former... sometimes it’s intended for humor; but in your case I feel you’re just being an ass. :)
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri May 22, 2020 9:26 am

JimB: you FINALLY figured determined the true nature of this person, mrswdk. Well Done..!

jimboston wrote:All the definitions apply.... but clearly if one of the man definitions ‘fits’ the intent i,plies by the sentence, then that’s the meaning intended by the writer... and the one an intelligent reader would clearly receive.

So you’re either intentionally obfuscating or not intelligent.

If the former... sometimes it’s intended for humor; but in your case I feel you’re just being an ass. :)
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby mrswdk on Fri May 22, 2020 9:34 am

Translation of all of the above: 'semantics is a valid form of debate, unless mrswdk does it'.

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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby jimboston on Fri May 22, 2020 2:35 pm

mrswdk wrote:Translation of all of the above: 'semantics is a valid form of debate, unless mrswdk does it'.



You were saying it’s NOT valid and that’s all we are arguing about.
Now you’re saying the opposite!

Also... we’re saying it’s not just “semantics” because you’re manipulating the language intentionally to obfuscate your point and sometimes argue against a position that you are generally ‘FOR’ when it’s another party involved.

i.e. you’re being a hypocrite.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby mrswdk on Fri May 22, 2020 6:01 pm

Well if you want to discuss the real point rather than arguing about semantics: do you think it's acceptable that the police slaughtered this woman in her home or not?

mrswdk wrote:Meanwhile in America, plain clothes police burst into the house of an innocent paramedic in the middle of the night and then murdered her after her boyfriend, who had no way of knowing who they even were, attempted to fight them off:

Across the country, many people were starting to work from home as the grip of coronavirus quickly spread. But Taylor, a 26-year-old certified EMT, was an essential worker, still going to help at two Louisville hospitals as the city braced for the worst.

On the night that Taylor was killed, the officers were serving a no-knock search warrant in a narcotics investigation. Police have since said the officers knocked and announced themselves before entering.

Lawyers for Taylor’s family and her boyfriend Kenneth Walker, who was with Taylor that night, say they did not. Walker said he thought he was witnessing a home invasion, prompting him to pick up his gun and fire a shot that hit an officer in the leg after a battering ram plowed through the apartment’s door.

Police responded by firing more than 20 times. Taylor was hit by eight rounds. According to an affidavit filed by Walker’s defense lawyer Rob Eggert: “You could look through one of the bullet holes and see into the next-door apartment.”

Additionally, they said police were searching for a suspect who had already been apprehended.


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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby jimboston on Sat May 23, 2020 7:19 am

mrswdk wrote:Well if you want to discuss the real point rather than arguing about semantics: do you think it's acceptable that the police slaughtered this woman in her home or not?

mrswdk wrote:Meanwhile in America, plain clothes police burst into the house of an innocent paramedic in the middle of the night and then murdered her after her boyfriend, who had no way of knowing who they even were, attempted to fight them off:

Across the country, many people were starting to work from home as the grip of coronavirus quickly spread. But Taylor, a 26-year-old certified EMT, was an essential worker, still going to help at two Louisville hospitals as the city braced for the worst.

On the night that Taylor was killed, the officers were serving a no-knock search warrant in a narcotics investigation. Police have since said the officers knocked and announced themselves before entering.

Lawyers for Taylor’s family and her boyfriend Kenneth Walker, who was with Taylor that night, say they did not. Walker said he thought he was witnessing a home invasion, prompting him to pick up his gun and fire a shot that hit an officer in the leg after a battering ram plowed through the apartment’s door.

Police responded by firing more than 20 times. Taylor was hit by eight rounds. According to an affidavit filed by Walker’s defense lawyer Rob Eggert: “You could look through one of the bullet holes and see into the next-door apartment.”

Additionally, they said police were searching for a suspect who had already been apprehended.


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No, it doesn’t strike me as acceptable.

... but I’d like to get all the info and not just eight sentences, before passing judgement on the individual police officers in question.

Like for example, 20 returned shots seems excessive... but how many officers were there? If you’re talking 1-2 shots police officer it may not be unreasonable.

Why was the boyfriend packing and why did he assume a home invasion?
Is he in a neighborhood where this is common? Police have come to my door at 3am and my default isn’t. to assume home invasion.

Did police confirm they already had the suspect? Same department or different?

The narcotics arrest is IMHO part of a bigger problem... cause I don’t think most drugs should be illegal.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby mrswdk on Sat May 23, 2020 10:09 am

jimboston wrote:No, it doesn’t strike me as acceptable.

... but I’d like to get all the info


Classic. The police could rent an Apache helicopter from the army and use it to raze an entire neighbourhood and your response would probably be 'I'm sure the police had their reasons, let's hear them out'.

Why was the boyfriend packing and why did he assume a home invasion?


Combines victim blaming and asking questions that the reading article would've told you the answer to, all in a mere 13 words. Top work, detective!
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby jimboston on Sat May 23, 2020 10:19 am

mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:No, it doesn’t strike me as acceptable.

... but I’d like to get all the info


Classic. The police could rent an Apache helicopter from the army and use it to raze an entire neighbourhood and your response would probably be 'I'm sure the police had their reasons, let's hear them out'.


Straw Man / Extreme Exaggeration

mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
Why was the boyfriend packing and why did he assume a home invasion?


Combines victim blaming and asking questions that the reading article would've told you the answer to, all in a mere 13 words. Top work, detective!


I read the article. It didn’t explain why. he was packing nor why his default assumption was home invasion.

I’m assuming the police have body cams... if not they should. That would show us how it. truly went down.
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby Lootifer on Sun May 24, 2020 8:56 pm

mrswdk wrote:The only thing we know for sure from this thread is that you know loads about LARPers.

saxi on a Friday night:

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Isn't he like a 100 years old? I'd say he's more of a gandolf kind LARPer
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Re: Armed police called out, refrain from slaughtering suspe

Postby 2dimes on Mon May 25, 2020 3:52 am

Lootifer wrote:
mrswdk wrote:The only thing we know for sure from this thread is that you know loads about LARPers.

saxi on a Friday night:

https://i.redd.it/3870wu6w24r21.jpg


Isn't he like a 100 years old? I'd say he's more of a gandolf kind LARPer


Also that guy is at least 23 cm taller than Saxi.
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