Let's talk world peace

[what,me worry?]

Most of the world practices Islam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_r ... opulations

According to Wiki 26% of the world population are Christian and 19% are Muslim.

Since when is 19% “Most”?

You’re an idiot.

Not only are your facts wrong... but your ideas are ludicrous.

Muslims fight amongst themselves over minuscule points... they won’t recognize Christians becoming Muslim “on our own terms”.

Practicing would be the key

The devil is in the details

[2dimes]

Also, you should absolutely go tell every Muslim you can, they are just a sect of Judaism.

I didn't say one was a sect of the other, I said they're all sects of the same thing.

On a side note I'm not sure why you thinks Muslims would react worse to being told that than Christians, or than how Jews would react to being told they're a sect of Christianity.

Ok, are you claiming you don't know why Judaism can't be a sect of the other two on your list?

I would not be surprised to hear about uneducated Christians not knowing they are a sect of Judaism. If that fact makes them angry they only have themselves to blame. If you understood enough to explain it to them I suspect you'd be safe. They might not believe you but they probably won't harm you.

[mrswdk]

Also, you should absolutely go tell every Muslim you can, they are just a sect of Judaism.

I didn't say one was a sect of the other, I said they're all sects of the same thing.

On a side note I'm not sure why you thinks Muslims would react worse to being told that than Christians, or than how Jews would react to being told they're a sect of Christianity.

Ok, are you claiming you don't know why Judaism can't be a sect of the other two on your list?

They all worship the same god and have the same moral codes. I don't think it really matters whether the fanboys think there is some kind of hierarchy among their sects or if Jews are cooler because they'd heard of God first.

[jimboston]

Christianity, Islam and Judaism are all just sects of the same religion anyway. Same god, same prophets, same belief system and moral codes.

The sort of people who will fight each other over Christianity v Islam are the same sort of people who would fight each other over Catholic v Protestant, or French v German, or black v white, or McDonald's v Burger King. The fact they seek out conflict with other people based on arbitrary lines in the sand is a symptom, not the disease.

+1

You’re wrong... let’s fight!

[jimboston]

Most of the world practices Islam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_r ... opulations

According to Wiki 26% of the world population are Christian and 19% are Muslim.

Since when is 19% “Most”?

You’re an idiot.

Not only are your facts wrong... but your ideas are ludicrous.

Muslims fight amongst themselves over minuscule points... they won’t recognize Christians becoming Muslim “on our own terms”.

Practicing would be the key

The devil is in the details

So you’re saying you have stats that show “most of the world” is “practicing” Muslims?

Cause you don’t... cause you’re wrong.

As pointed out before... even if you lump all Christians, Muslims, and Jews together... and label them all “practicing Muslims” that’s still not “most of the world” it’s only 45-46%. It’s not even close to “most”... it’s not even a majority!

Are you truly as dumb as you seem?

[Dukasaur]

Most of the world practices Islam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_r ... opulations

According to Wiki 26% of the world population are Christian and 19% are Muslim.

Since when is 19% “Most”?

You’re an idiot.

Not only are your facts wrong... but your ideas are ludicrous.

Muslims fight amongst themselves over minuscule points... they won’t recognize Christians becoming Muslim “on our own terms”.

Practicing would be the key

The devil is in the details

So you’re saying you have stats that show “most of the world” is “practicing” Muslims?

Cause you don’t... cause you’re wrong.

As pointed out before... even if you lump all Christians, Muslims, and Jews together... and label them all “practicing Muslims” that’s still not “most of the world” it’s only 45-46%. It’s not even close to “most”... it’s not even a majority!

Just a technicality (and making it clear that I generally agree with you) but on the wiki page you cited, there are two non-identical listings for religious population. The more recent list (2015) shows much higher populations for Christians and Muslims than the 2005 list, just over 31% and just over 24%, respectively. Don't know if the two lists were compiled using different methods, or if they just represent the monstrous resurgence of religion and abandonment of reason in recent times, but using the more recent numbers you get something over 55%. That is a majority. Still not, as you point out, anything close to "most", but it is a majority.

[what,me worry?]

What mean to say when I say the devil is in the details:

Mod Edit: (Razorvich)

[what,me worry?]

Here's an experiment today:

- Pray to Jesus 5 times today
- walk around in a hooded bathrobe
- re-watch the press conference of the United States Caliphate Donal Trump and we'll elect a new caliphate every 4 years, maybe it'll be caliphate Trump again
- treat your main b1tch and your side b1tch with equal respeeeeccttt.....
- our local Sharia is run by something called a town mayyooorrr....

[mookiemcgee]

Here's an experiment today:

- Pray to Jesus 5 times today
- walk around in a hooded bathrobe
- re-watch the press conference of the United States Caliphate Donal Trump and we'll elect a new caliphate every 4 years, maybe it'll be caliphate Trump again
- treat your main b1tch and your side b1tch with equal respeeeeccttt.....
- our local Sharia is run by something called a town mayyooorrr....

You sound like your understanding of Islam comes only from having a christian priest or radio show host read the Koran to you.

Have you ever met or had a conversation with a muslim?

[what,me worry?]

Here's an experiment today:

- Pray to Jesus 5 times today
- walk around in a hooded bathrobe
- re-watch the press conference of the United States Caliphate Donal Trump and we'll elect a new caliphate every 4 years, maybe it'll be caliphate Trump again
- treat your main b1tch and your side b1tch with equal respeeeeccttt.....
- our local Sharia is run by something called a town mayyooorrr....

You sound like your understanding of Islam comes only from having a christian priest or radio show host read the Koran to you.

Have you ever met or had a conversation with a muslim?

Islam is customizable

Comes with the hood option, leather seats, possibly throw in a GPS

[jimboston]

Just a technicality (and making it clear that I generally agree with you) but on the wiki page you cited, there are two non-identical listings for religious population. The more recent list (2015) shows much higher populations for Christians and Muslims than the 2005 list, just over 31% and just over 24%, respectively. Don't know if the two lists were compiled using different methods, or if they just represent the monstrous resurgence of religion and abandonment of reason in recent times, but using the more recent numbers you get something over 55%. That is a majority. Still not, as you point out, anything close to "most", but it is a majority.

So I just grabbed the first number that I found... they’re so NOT in agreement with what WMW is saying that I didn’t feel the need to get additional sources. As you state.. even if Muslim+Christian+Jewish is a number greater than 50% it’s still no where near “Most”.

Furthermore... and more to the point... we are giving WMW a big benefit of doubt here, assuming he meant the sum total of those three religious groups were all counted (by him) as “practicing muslims”. In reality, he likely meant just real muslims. Which constitute not even 25%... certainly not “most of the people”.

As an aside, it’d be interesting to see how these lists counted people. I would probably be counted as Christian as I was baptized and do sometimes go to Church for ceremonies or major holidays, mostly for tradition. In reality I’m agnostic. My point being the numbers are too general... as many people who are “Christian” don’t consider Catholics to be true Christians... etc.

[jimboston]

What mean to say when I say the devil is in the details:

Mod Edit: (Razorvich)

I was going to post a point-by-point refutation of the post, but it’s a waste of energy and will ultimately end in frustration when WMW agrees with me but then decides that what he said wasn’t what he meant, and that we all just don’t understand.

Examples...

WMW: “Most of the world practices Islam”
-> When this point is refuted and it’s shown that only about 24% of the world’s population is in fact Islamic.
WMW: “Numbers don’t tell the full story... the number of Christians around the world does not equal the force of Muslims around the world... We’re talking two different animals...”

So when you prove he’s wrong, that in fact “Most of the world” does not practice Islam, he then essentially says that doesn’t matter, and what he meant was that the “force” of Muslims is greater than the force of Christians.

Now I could. prove this wrong too... and could lay out a religious war scenario where say what we might consider “Western” or “Christian” countries went to war with “Muslim/Islamic” countries... and if there was such a full on war how the “Western/Christian” countries would win...

Let’s say... USA, France, Spain, Germany, Australia... versus Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, etc., etc.

I think we’d all be losers... but I think the “Islamic/Muslim” countries would lose worse.

He’d then say “that isn’t what I meant”.
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It’s like arguing with a 4yo!

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All his posts... 1-5 for both Christianity and Islam can easily be refuted... but it’s a wasted effort.

This guy is so brainwashed and simplistic in his thinking.

It makes me sad to be American and wishes we could institute an IQ test prior to allowing voter registration.

[jimboston]

Islam is customizable

Please point to one reputable Islamic source that agrees with this statement.

Islamic factions/sects fight violently with each other over (what most of us would consider) minute details about their religion.

Catholics and Protestants did the same for years in Europe. The feuds were so bad that factions continued fighting in parts of Europe for centuries after most people no longer cared, and used these religious difference as proxies for other issues, like enfranchisement and economic opportunity. (i.e. “the Troubles” in Ireland)

What makes you think that most (or even any) Muslims would accept pseudo-converts from Christianity as fellow brother Muslims?
(Even if you could get a majority of Christians to go along with your idea... which you couldn’t.)

Your idea is dumb, and even if it wasn’t... it’s unworkable.

[what,me worry?]

Islam is customizable

Please point to one reputable Islamic source that agrees with this statement.

Islamic factions/sects fight violently with each other over (what most of us would consider) minute details about their religion.

Catholics and Protestants did the same for years in Europe. The feuds were so bad that factions continued fighting in parts of Europe for centuries after most people no longer cared, and used these religious difference as proxies for other issues, like enfranchisement and economic opportunity. (i.e. “the Troubles” in Ireland)

What makes you think that most (or even any) Muslims would accept pseudo-converts from Christianity as fellow brother Muslims?
(Even if you could get a majority of Christians to go along with your idea... which you couldn’t.)

Your idea is dumb, and even if it wasn’t... it’s unworkable.

That's what I'm telling you

There are many varieties of Islam based on what you choose to recognize and emphasize. Just like any religion.

[what,me worry?]

Jesus was a transient, poor person who cared and sacrificed everything for others

That's why when people speak of being Christian, their faith is shallow. What have you sacrificed for your faith?

[jimboston]

Jesus was a transient, poor person who cared and sacrificed everything for others

So claims a famous work of fiction.

That's why when people speak of being Christian, their faith is shallow. What have you sacrificed for your faith?

What people are you talking about?

I’m sure there are many, perhaps a majority, that can be categorized as you have done.

However the way you write this you are essentially claiming that all “people” who speak of being Christian have shallow faith.

[jimboston]

Islam is customizable

Please point to one reputable Islamic source that agrees with this statement.

Islamic factions/sects fight violently with each other over (what most of us would consider) minute details about their religion.

Catholics and Protestants did the same for years in Europe. The feuds were so bad that factions continued fighting in parts of Europe for centuries after most people no longer cared, and used these religious difference as proxies for other issues, like enfranchisement and economic opportunity. (i.e. “the Troubles” in Ireland)

What makes you think that most (or even any) Muslims would accept pseudo-converts from Christianity as fellow brother Muslims?
(Even if you could get a majority of Christians to go along with your idea... which you couldn’t.)

Your idea is dumb, and even if it wasn’t... it’s unworkable.

That's what I'm telling you

There are many varieties of Islam based on what you choose to recognize and emphasize. Just like any religion.

ugh.... again he agrees with me and just tries to tell me I misunderstand.

OK.

So you now admit their are many varieties of Islam. Yes?

... and you acknowledge these various groups/sects/brands fight with eachother.... is some cases violently... committing mass murder and borderline genocide in some cases. Yes?

So then please explain how we would have “world peace” if all Christians miraculously claimed to be Muslims and worshipped Mohammed “in their own way”? Wouldn’t these reformed/converted Christians just be another Islamic “Sect” that the other Islamic Sects would want to destroy because they were different?

[what,me worry?]

"You people" really make me wanna start smokin' cigarettes * picks cig up, lights it, tosses it* ehh!