There is a patriarchy

[what,me worry?]

There is and always has been a patriarchy.... and it's because of testosterone

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/89/6/2837/2870329

[NomadPatriot]

because Women outnumber men in general populations & yet men are voted into political power more...
so.. who creates this Patriarchy you are noting...?
since women have more votes than men...?

also since you can not name any women being held back by men.. I will name a few:

- Oprah Winfrey

- Indra Nooyi, the CEO of PEPSI Co.

- Melinda Gates

- Nancy Pelosi

- Virginia Rometty, CEO of IBM

- Diane Sawyer

- Michelle Obama

- Chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Debbie Wasserman Schultz

- The CEO of Facebook, Sheryl Sandberg

- Ellen DeGeneres

- German Chancellor Angela Merkel

- Queen Elizabeth

- The United States Congress has a record 126 women in its chambers

- more women are being appointed to S&P 500 boards than at any other point in global history.

---> patriarchy in full effect

[what,me worry?]

Look at the list of presidents

Look at the history of humans. Mostly male monarchs or oligarchs

[NomadPatriot]

Look at the list of presidents

Look at the history of humans. Mostly male monarchs or oligarchs

- Monarchies are based on Family Lineage. not whoever the male is thus Elizabeth is the ruling Queen..
- Oligarchies are based upon the wealthiest taking power.. wealth is not male based..

US Presidents are elected based upon candidates who are nominated to run for the office. 31 women have been nominated to run as president by their respective parties. Since many of those women have run for president multiple times, the total number of times women have been nominated totals 41.
women in society outnumber men...

so who is electing the men.. ?

A- women..
women are the majority..

.. if your debate wasn't so simple to destroy... you might have a point..
but it is.. & you don't

[nietzsche]

[tzor]

Look at the list of presidents

It should be noted that there was an assumption that those who can't vote shouldn't run for office. The first presidential candidate who was a female was from a minor political party and the only real question was that she may have not met the age qualification at the time. That was BEFORE women got the right to vote.

Victoria Claflin Woodhull, later Victoria Woodhull Martin (September 23, 1838 – June 9, 1927), was an American leader of the women's suffrage movement. In 1872, she ran for President of the United States. While many historians and authors agree that Woodhull was the first woman to run for President of the United States, some have questioned that priority given issues with the legality of her run. They disagree with classifying it as a true candidacy because she was younger than the constitutionally mandated age of 35. (Woodhull's 35th birthday was in September 1873, seven months after the March inauguration). However, election coverage by contemporary newspapers does not suggest age was a significant issue; this may, however, be due to the fact that no one took the candidacy seriously.

An activist for women's rights and labor reforms, Woodhull was also an advocate of "free love", by which she meant the freedom to marry, divorce and bear children without social restriction or government interference.[2] "They cannot roll back the rising tide of reform," she often said. "The world moves."[3]

[what,me worry?]

People are finding rarities instead of looking at trends and going with the generalities

Women have babies and periods. They are feelers

Men are more aggressive, logical, crave power and vagina which means they need stuff and power, men earn more money and reach higher echelons based on the fact they dont give birth and their brains dont change as much

Testosterone vs estrogen

The masculine and feminine

[NomadPatriot]

People are finding rarities instead of looking at trends and going with the generalities

Women have babies and periods. They are feelers

Men are more aggressive, logical, crave power and vagina which means they need stuff and power, men earn more money and reach higher echelons based on the fact they dont give birth and their brains dont change as much

Testosterone vs estrogen

The masculine and feminine

WOW...…
someone is holding a torch rally tonight..
for a lefty.. he sure has a odd perspective of women … no wonder he is single in his 30's with no kids.... WMW sounds like the type of guy who probably punched them in the face if they tried speaking or open the front door....

[what,me worry?]

People are finding rarities instead of looking at trends and going with the generalities

Women have babies and periods. They are feelers

Men are more aggressive, logical, crave power and vagina which means they need stuff and power, men earn more money and reach higher echelons based on the fact they dont give birth and their brains dont change as much

Testosterone vs estrogen

The masculine and feminine

WOW...…
someone is holding a torch rally tonight..
for a lefty.. he sure has a odd perspective of women … no wonder he is single in his 30's with no kids.... WMW sounds like the type of guy who probably punched them in the face if they tried speaking or open the front door....

They never leave the kitchen so, that wouldnt be an option

[jimboston]

They never leave the kitchen so, that wouldnt be an option

What is the point of this thread?

What are you trying to say?

My default position (in this forum) normally to just take the opposite side of Nomad.
I don’t think I can do that here.

Your posts are so random and incoherent.

At first is seems like you’re saying...

“There’s a biological basis for why history is mostly “HIS” story and there’s a biological basis for male domination.”

OK... that’s a position, maybe even a defendable one. However...

I glanced at the link you provided in the OP. I’m not a scientist, but I’m literate enough to see that it doesn’t provide any data that demonstrates a direct relationship between testosterone and historical patriarchy. Here’s a quote from the study...

“Our results suggest that exogenous TU-induced elevation of circulating T, to the range likely to be used in hormonal male contraception, has limited psychological effects. Future research should investigate the implications of these minor mood changes.”

1) Artificially increased testosterone levels.
2) MINOR mood changes.

So... if you want to prove the point you can either try doing. it with logic or get other data.

The real problem with your point comes when you seem to suggest not only that there’s a biological basis for patriarchal society.... but that it’s there a ‘good’ thing... that ‘the woman’s place is in the kitchen’. I guess you are entitled to that opinion... but even if you could ‘prove’ theirs a biological basis for male dominated society that does not necessarily prove that it’s a ‘good’ thing.

Are you trying to say it’s ‘good’ or are you just being lazy in your attempt to make fun or Nomad?

That’s were it’s kind of unclear.

I suggest you disengage from your forum arguments with Nomad. It’s not going to benefit your life in anyway.

[NomadPatriot]

They never leave the kitchen so, that wouldnt be an option

What is the point of this thread?

What are you trying to say?

My default position (in this forum) normally to just take the opposite side of Nomad.
I don’t think I can do that here.

Your posts are so random and incoherent.

At first is seems like you’re saying...

“There’s a biological basis for why history is mostly “HIS” story and there’s a biological basis for male domination.”

OK... that’s a position, maybe even a defendable one. However...

I glanced at the link you provided in the OP. I’m not a scientist, but I’m literate enough to see that it doesn’t provide any data that demonstrates a direct relationship between testosterone and historical patriarchy. Here’s a quote from the study...

“Our results suggest that exogenous TU-induced elevation of circulating T, to the range likely to be used in hormonal male contraception, has limited psychological effects. Future research should investigate the implications of these minor mood changes.”

1) Artificially increased testosterone levels.
2) MINOR mood changes.

So... if you want to prove the point you can either try doing. it with logic or get other data.

The real problem with your point comes when you seem to suggest not only that there’s a biological basis for patriarchal society.... but that it’s there a ‘good’ thing... that ‘the woman’s place is in the kitchen’. I guess you are entitled to that opinion... but even if you could ‘prove’ theirs a biological basis for male dominated society that does not necessarily prove that it’s a ‘good’ thing.

Are you trying to say it’s ‘good’ or are you just being lazy in your attempt to make fun or Nomad?

That’s were it’s kind of unclear.

I suggest you disengage from your forum arguments with Nomad. It’s not going to benefit your life in anyway.

Summary:
Nomad is owning you WMW.. .. run while you still can..

[what,me worry?]

They never leave the kitchen so, that wouldnt be an option

What is the point of this thread?

What are you trying to say?

My default position (in this forum) normally to just take the opposite side of Nomad.
I don’t think I can do that here.

Your posts are so random and incoherent.

At first is seems like you’re saying...

“There’s a biological basis for why history is mostly “HIS” story and there’s a biological basis for male domination.”

OK... that’s a position, maybe even a defendable one. However...

I glanced at the link you provided in the OP. I’m not a scientist, but I’m literate enough to see that it doesn’t provide any data that demonstrates a direct relationship between testosterone and historical patriarchy. Here’s a quote from the study...

“Our results suggest that exogenous TU-induced elevation of circulating T, to the range likely to be used in hormonal male contraception, has limited psychological effects. Future research should investigate the implications of these minor mood changes.”

1) Artificially increased testosterone levels.
2) MINOR mood changes.

So... if you want to prove the point you can either try doing. it with logic or get other data.

The real problem with your point comes when you seem to suggest not only that there’s a biological basis for patriarchal society.... but that it’s there a ‘good’ thing... that ‘the woman’s place is in the kitchen’. I guess you are entitled to that opinion... but even if you could ‘prove’ theirs a biological basis for male dominated society that does not necessarily prove that it’s a ‘good’ thing.

Are you trying to say it’s ‘good’ or are you just being lazy in your attempt to make fun or Nomad?

That’s were it’s kind of unclear.

I suggest you disengage from your forum arguments with Nomad. It’s not going to benefit your life in anyway.

Lol

There is a clear trend who men being leaders due to biology. We are the bigger vessels as testosterone builds muscle.

We take care of the women who birth our children which puts us further ahead of women in the working world. We dont have to be pregnant for 9 months or rear the kids through nursing. We dont have the same bond as we dont carry the children en utero, and our brains dont change into the phenomenon of " Mombies" ( mom zombie) which is evolutionary advantageous.

Testosterone makes men more competitive and aggressive which is advantageous to the business and political arenas

I could go on but I thought people would be smart enough to gather what my point was

Side note: Black men traditionally have more testosterone which is why they dominate the sports world and carry more muscle naturally as mesomorphs. They are also more prone to jail/prison as there is a strong correlation to prison and testosterone levels as high testosterone means they are more aggressive and risk takers

[NomadPatriot]

Black men traditionally have more testosterone which is why they dominate the sports world and carry more muscle naturally as mesomorphs. They are also more prone to jail/prison as there is a strong correlation to prison and testosterone levels as high testosterone means they are more aggressive and risk takers

so white cops are not racist.. it's biology..

awesome...
so is testosterone racist then...?

but hang on a second...

--> " A new survey shows that “nonwhites are more likely than white segments of the U.S. population to identify as LGBT.”
According to the report, released by Gallup earlier this week, 4.6 percent of African Americans responded “yes” when asked if they identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, along with four percent of Hispanics, 4.3 percent of Asians and 3.2 percent of Caucasians."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-gays-lgbt-community_n_1989859

a higher percentage of African Americans identify as LGBT... then any other racial group..
according to HuffPo..

testosterone filled gay black men.. welcome to 2020..

[what,me worry?]

Black men traditionally have more testosterone which is why they dominate the sports world and carry more muscle naturally as mesomorphs. They are also more prone to jail/prison as there is a strong correlation to prison and testosterone levels as high testosterone means they are more aggressive and risk takers

so white cops are not racist.. it's biology..

awesome...
so is testosterone racist then...?

but hang on a second...

--> " A new survey shows that “nonwhites are more likely than white segments of the U.S. population to identify as LGBT.”
According to the report, released by Gallup earlier this week, 4.6 percent of African Americans responded “yes” when asked if they identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, along with four percent of Hispanics, 4.3 percent of Asians and 3.2 percent of Caucasians."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-gays-lgbt-community_n_1989859

a higher percentage of African Americans identify as LGBT... then any other racial group..
according to HuffPo..

testosterone filled gay black men.. welcome to 2020..

You're a retard and you're now on ignore for a week since you d*ck tucked

[NomadPatriot]

Black men traditionally have more testosterone which is why they dominate the sports world and carry more muscle naturally as mesomorphs. They are also more prone to jail/prison as there is a strong correlation to prison and testosterone levels as high testosterone means they are more aggressive and risk takers

so white cops are not racist.. it's biology..

awesome...
so is testosterone racist then...?

but hang on a second...

--> " A new survey shows that “nonwhites are more likely than white segments of the U.S. population to identify as LGBT.”
According to the report, released by Gallup earlier this week, 4.6 percent of African Americans responded “yes” when asked if they identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, along with four percent of Hispanics, 4.3 percent of Asians and 3.2 percent of Caucasians."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-gays-lgbt-community_n_1989859

a higher percentage of African Americans identify as LGBT... then any other racial group..
according to HuffPo..

testosterone filled gay black men.. welcome to 2020..

You're a retard and you're now on ignore for a week since you d*ck tucked

guess he cannot dispute 'ol HuffPo…

look at all that rage & Profanity..
the bad speak coming from this Lefty is astounding..
using the R-Word..
referencing how Trans-sexuals tucking themselves in a negative way..
not very Progressive of WMW

[what,me worry?]

They never leave the kitchen so, that wouldnt be an option

What is the point of this thread?

What are you trying to say?

My default position (in this forum) normally to just take the opposite side of Nomad.
I don’t think I can do that here.

Your posts are so random and incoherent.

At first is seems like you’re saying...

“There’s a biological basis for why history is mostly “HIS” story and there’s a biological basis for male domination.”

OK... that’s a position, maybe even a defendable one. However...

I glanced at the link you provided in the OP. I’m not a scientist, but I’m literate enough to see that it doesn’t provide any data that demonstrates a direct relationship between testosterone and historical patriarchy. Here’s a quote from the study...

“Our results suggest that exogenous TU-induced elevation of circulating T, to the range likely to be used in hormonal male contraception, has limited psychological effects. Future research should investigate the implications of these minor mood changes.”

1) Artificially increased testosterone levels.
2) MINOR mood changes.

So... if you want to prove the point you can either try doing. it with logic or get other data.

The real problem with your point comes when you seem to suggest not only that there’s a biological basis for patriarchal society.... but that it’s there a ‘good’ thing... that ‘the woman’s place is in the kitchen’. I guess you are entitled to that opinion... but even if you could ‘prove’ theirs a biological basis for male dominated society that does not necessarily prove that it’s a ‘good’ thing.

Are you trying to say it’s ‘good’ or are you just being lazy in your attempt to make fun or Nomad?

That’s were it’s kind of unclear.

I suggest you disengage from your forum arguments with Nomad. It’s not going to benefit your life in anyway.

I've been on testosterone and know people who use it as well as other steroids

On testosterone the changes WERE NOT MINOR lol

In fact, in amateurs MMA fights, they are used to be extra aggressive which makes all the difference

Testosterone burns fat, builds muscle, causes an big increase in aggression, sexual desire ( I walked around with a hard on), and I was much more logical. That was on a less than moderate dose and my testosterone was always on the high side anyway ( had testosterone of a 16 year old off the charts when I was 26 naturally)

[what,me worry?]

I have the labs when I was completely Natty if you guys wanna see that test

No more until I'm older and on TRT

[NomadPatriot]

I walked around with a hard on, and I was much more logical.

[jimboston]

I have the labs when I was completely Natty if you guys wanna see that test

No more until I'm older and on TRT

Dude... you’re all over the place.

It’s a weird thread when Nomad is making way more sense than the OP.

Have we crossed over to Bizzaro world.

A lot of what you say about testosterone is true... but you’re then making leaps of ‘logic’ without demonstrating or explaining the correlation.

You are also not talking about whether you think this ‘patriarchy’ is ‘good or bad’. One could argue that a male dominated society is stronger in a violent prehistoric setting, but that it may no longer be the best/only option in the modern world. You seem to be suggesting that it’s not only ‘good’ but it’s inevitable. Is that correct?

It’s a weird thread when Nomad is not the most racist / sexist person commenting.

You’re comments are all over the place... are you sure you stopped taking drugs?

[NomadPatriot]

I have the labs when I was completely Natty if you guys wanna see that test

No more until I'm older and on TRT

Dude... you’re all over the place.

It’s a weird thread when Nomad is making way more sense than the OP.

Have we crossed over to Bizzaro world.

A lot of what you say about testosterone is true... but you’re then making leaps of ‘logic’ without demonstrating or explaining the correlation.

You are also not talking about whether you think this ‘patriarchy’ is ‘good or bad’. One could argue that a male dominated society is stronger in a violent prehistoric setting, but that it may no longer be the best/only option in the modern world. You seem to be suggesting that it’s not only ‘good’ but it’s inevitable. Is that correct?

It’s a weird thread when Nomad is not the most racist / sexist person commenting.

You’re comments are all over the place... are you sure you stopped taking drugs?

feel free to quote me saying anything Racist or Sexist jimmy... since you constantly lay out accusations you can never back-up with quotes ..

[jimboston]

apologist and denier

accuses people of making posts without support when that’s his entire MO
—-

It’s OK Nomad... we finally found someone nuttier than you.
You’re off the hook.

(Unless you’re upset that WMD is taking away your glory as the most controversial poster in this lame forum.)

[NomadPatriot]

apologist and denier

accuses people of making posts without support when that’s his entire MO
—-

It’s OK Nomad... we finally found someone nuttier than you.
You’re off the hook.

(Unless you’re upset that WMD is taking away your glory as the most controversial poster in this lame forum.)

oh.. so you still cannot back-up your claims,,,,
same 'ol Jimmy.. screaming accusations what you cannot prove

[jimboston]

apologist and denier

accuses people of making posts without support when that’s his entire MO
—-

It’s OK Nomad... we finally found someone nuttier than you.
You’re off the hook.

(Unless you’re upset that WMD is taking away your glory as the most controversial poster in this lame forum.)

oh.. so you still cannot back-up your claims,,,,
same 'ol Jimmy.. screaming accusations what you cannot prove

kinda try to backup Nomad... get insulted

Lesson learned.

I hope WMD finds you and kicks your ass in a drug and testosterone induced rage.

[NomadPatriot]

apologist and denier

accuses people of making posts without support when that’s his entire MO
—-

It’s OK Nomad... we finally found someone nuttier than you.
You’re off the hook.

(Unless you’re upset that WMD is taking away your glory as the most controversial poster in this lame forum.)

oh.. so you still cannot back-up your claims,,,,
same 'ol Jimmy.. screaming accusations what you cannot prove

kinda try to backup Nomad... get insulted

Lesson learned.

I hope WMD finds you and kicks your ass in a drug and testosterone induced rage.

awwww. Jimmy is wishing physical harm upon me because words are too hard to handle..
the po' little thing is getting triggered...

i'll just wait for you to be able to back-up what you claim..

Free Shovels.. all day long

[what,me worry?]

I have the labs when I was completely Natty if you guys wanna see that test

No more until I'm older and on TRT

Dude... you’re all over the place.

It’s a weird thread when Nomad is making way more sense than the OP.

Have we crossed over to Bizzaro world.

A lot of what you say about testosterone is true... but you’re then making leaps of ‘logic’ without demonstrating or explaining the correlation.

You are also not talking about whether you think this ‘patriarchy’ is ‘good or bad’. One could argue that a male dominated society is stronger in a violent prehistoric setting, but that it may no longer be the best/only option in the modern world. You seem to be suggesting that it’s not only ‘good’ but it’s inevitable. Is that correct?

It’s a weird thread when Nomad is not the most racist / sexist person commenting.

You’re comments are all over the place... are you sure you stopped taking drugs?

We are not that far removed from when that brutality was a necessary trait for survival. Technology has domesticated civilians into being a different kind of hunters and protectors

The animal that was needed back then still lies within us and is expressed through power and control of society and business

We are still cruel, selfish, and pretty animals as can be seen through the difference of 1st and 3rd world countries and war