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Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:13 pm

In the 1950s, educated people voted for right-wing parties and the ignorant voted for left-wing parties.

The trend has gradually flipped -- in France starting with the '69 election, in the U.S. starting with the '72 election, and in Britain starting with the '74 election.

http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/Piketty2018.pdf#page=73

Right-wing populists, with their thuggish appeals to xenophobia and "traditional values" have to a large degree succeeded in persuading the workers to be willing co-conspirators in their own exploitation. Only education, and a lot of it, offers some shield against the brainwashing of the right.
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby NomadPatriot on Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:04 pm

Dukasaur wrote:In the 1950s, educated people voted for right-wing parties and the ignorant voted for left-wing parties.

The trend has gradually flipped -- in France starting with the '69 election, in the U.S. starting with the '72 election, and in Britain starting with the '74 election.

http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/Piketty2018.pdf#page=73

Right-wing populists, with their thuggish appeals to xenophobia and "traditional values" have to a large degree succeeded in persuading the workers to be willing co-conspirators in their own exploitation. Only education, and a lot of it, offers some shield against the brainwashing of the right.



Conquer Club Representative just called everyone on this site who considers themselves on the right side of politics.. --> Ignorant & a Xenophobe..

he represents Conquer Club.. this is what this website thinks of you..
they are showing their position of how they view you..

this Political Sectarianism is on full display..

Sectarianism is a form of prejudice, discrimination, or hatred arising from attaching relations of inferiority and superiority to differences between subdivisions within a group. Common examples are denominations of a religion, ethnic identity, class, or region for citizens of a state and factions of a political movement.

ducky be selling those Premium Memberships like Hot Cakes.....
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:07 pm

... if the shoe fits....
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby NomadPatriot on Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:11 pm

Dukasaur wrote:... if the shoe fits....


exactly..
you have no issues showing your prejudice & Hatred & that you will Discriminate againist any member who is right leaning..

which has become very obvious.
this is Conquer Club.. you represent it. .

there is no point in denying it or attempting to backtrack your statements...
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby NomadPatriot on Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:17 pm

when 50% of your members stop renewing their memberships ..
don't act surprised...

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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:19 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:... if the shoe fits....


exactly..
you have no issues showing your prejudice & Hatred & that you will Discriminate againist any member who is right leaning..

Now that, my friend, is a lie. I have never discriminated against anyone regardless of my opinion of them. As much as I may hold negative opinions about you, I have never treated you with anything except absolutely exemplary fairness.

I have gotten literally dozens of messages from people suggesting you should be banned, but I've only given you one very short ban (which you must admit was richly deserved.) Unlike you right-wingers, I believe above all in behaving ethically and honourably, and have never let my opinion of you influence my treatment of you.

NomadPatriot wrote:which has become very obvious.
this is Conquer Club.. you represent it. .

there is no point in denying it or attempting to backtrack your statements...
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:20 pm

Now, if you could get back to the topic of the thread....
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby NomadPatriot on Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:25 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:... if the shoe fits....


exactly..
you have no issues showing your prejudice & Hatred & that you will Discriminate againist any member who is right leaning..

Now that, my friend, is a lie. I have never discriminated against anyone regardless of my opinion of them. As much as I may hold negative opinions about you, I have never treated you with anything except absolutely exemplary fairness.

I have gotten literally dozens of messages from people suggesting you should be banned, but I've only given you one very short ban (which you must admit was richly deserved.) Unlike you right-wingers, I believe above all in behaving ethically and honourably, and have never let my opinion of you influence my treatment of you.

NomadPatriot wrote:which has become very obvious.
this is Conquer Club.. you represent it. .

there is no point in denying it or attempting to backtrack your statements...


why are you trying to shift the conversation unto something about me.. ?

this is all about you ..
your point of view..
how you see people based upon political affiliation
your prejudice.
your hatred..
your willingness to discriminate againist people who are right leaning ..

your Sectarianism..

you decided to post this thread..
you thought it would be a good idea to attack 50% of the members on here.

too you.. being Ethical & Honorable is calling anyone who votes different then you Ignorant & a Xenophobe..
geez.. should we expect anything less from you..
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby 2dimes on Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:28 pm

You'll need better bait to catch a Saxi.
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby NomadPatriot on Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:35 pm

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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby KoolBak on Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:13 pm

Ignorance is bliss motherfucker.

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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:23 pm

2dimes wrote:You'll need better bait to catch a Saxi.


he I go, strolling through this thread from one side and right out the other

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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby mrswdk on Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:22 pm

Because having a degree = not ignorant and not having a degree = ignorant
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:19 pm

-In 1940, 4.6% of Americans had a BA/BS degree.
-In 2016, 33.4% of Americans had a BA/BS degree.

If the argument is that Americans have magically become eight times smarter since 1940, I disagree. It seems to me that university financing has become easier (see: GI Bill of 1944, Higher Education Act of 1965, etc.).

IOW, the same dummies who were leftists without college degrees in 1940 are now leftists with college degrees in 2019. They're still dumb, now they just have a framed piece of cardstock.

A college degree, or lack thereof, is not a measure of intelligence. If we actually measure intelligence ...

Dr. Noah Carl of the University of Oxford wrote:Individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence (2–5 IQ points).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 614000373#!
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby NomadPatriot on Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:27 pm

mrswdk wrote:Because having a degree = not ignorant and not having a degree = ignorant


because people with degrees need people without degrees to change their car tires for them.... or fix their plumbing... or whatever else you want to tack on..

the plumber without a degree thinks the college professor is ignorant because he doesn't know how to fix a simple leaky pipe

ignorance is not attributable to a educational degree
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:03 pm

The Left appeals to failures by promising to water down their failures with the successes of the Right. The Right appeals to the successful by promising not to water down their success with the failures of the Left.

- A vote for Democrats is a vote for the Idiocracy; rule by morons, dunces, and amateurs - a nation where everything is constantly falling apart because no one knows how to fix it. Where we aspire for everyone to fail together.

- A vote for Republicans is a vote for the Meritocracy; rule by the gregarious, intelligent, and professional - a nation with the lowest unemployment rate in the developed world and the highest per capita gross national income of any nation with a population of more than 10MM. Where we aspire for everyone to succeed individually.

    INTELLECTUAL SUCCESS
    Individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence (2–5 IQ points).
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 614000373#!

    FINANCIAL SUCCESS
    Financially, Republicans fare better than either Democrats or Independents, and tend to identify themselves as such. Republican candidates gain a significantly higher percentage of votes from individuals with incomes over $50,000 per year, and the advantage increases along with the income level, to a height of 63 percent of individuals earning $200,000 or more a year supporting Republicans. This level is the direct inverse of individuals earning less than $15,000 a year, who support Democrats at 63 percent and Republicans at only 36 percent.
    https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in- ... publicans/

    SEXUAL SUCCESS
    According to the 2018 SKYN Condoms Millennial Sex Survey, which looked at almost 4,000 people ages 19-36, republicans are having more sex than democrats — 77 percent of republicans are doing it at least once a week, while only 68 percent of Democrats can say the same.
    https://www.bustle.com/p/republicans-ar ... ds-9105232
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby The ram on Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:54 am

Dukasaur wrote:In the 1950s, educated people voted for right-wing parties and the ignorant voted for left-wing parties.

The trend has gradually flipped -- in France starting with the '69 election, in the U.S. starting with the '72 election, and in Britain starting with the '74 election.

http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/Piketty2018.pdf#page=73

Right-wing populists, with their thuggish appeals to xenophobia and "traditional values" have to a large degree succeeded in persuading the workers to be willing co-conspirators in their own exploitation. Only education, and a lot of it, offers some shield against the brainwashing of the right.


Britain actually voted for a socialist government in July 1945, and again in the 70s after the 3 day week and winter of discontent.

I can figure out that the people at both these times were somewhat demoralised, tired and hungry. However, according to you they were idiots in 45 and intelligent in 74.

Anyone with a brain cell can conclude that in times of despair when opportunities are at a minimum, people will somewhat lose their individualism and drive to succeed. And become reliant on the state.

You are incapable of using information.
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:38 am

The ram wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:In the 1950s, educated people voted for right-wing parties and the ignorant voted for left-wing parties.

The trend has gradually flipped -- in France starting with the '69 election, in the U.S. starting with the '72 election, and in Britain starting with the '74 election.

http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/Piketty2018.pdf#page=73

Right-wing populists, with their thuggish appeals to xenophobia and "traditional values" have to a large degree succeeded in persuading the workers to be willing co-conspirators in their own exploitation. Only education, and a lot of it, offers some shield against the brainwashing of the right.


Britain actually voted for a socialist government in July 1945, and again in the 70s after the 3 day week and winter of discontent.

I can figure out that the people at both these times were somewhat demoralised, tired and hungry. However, according to you they were idiots in 45 and intelligent in 74.

Anyone with a brain cell can conclude that in times of despair when opportunities are at a minimum, people will somewhat lose their individualism and drive to succeed. And become reliant on the state.

You are incapable of using information.


You're the one incapable of using information. The graph said nothing about who won the election, only about who the main support came from.
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:55 am

KoolBak wrote:Ignorance is bliss motherfucker.

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Yeah, you're not showing me anything new. Don't forget that I used to be a libertarian activist. I spent a decade in the trenches selling exactly the kind of lies as that chart is selling.

Now I know better. In the 1950s, most people could get by on one good full-time job, with benefits and a pension. Today, most of those jobs have been eliminated, and replaced with part-time and casual jobs, doing the same things but for less money and with no benefits and no pension. Fewer and fewer people live on a full-time job, and most have to work several part-time jobs to survive. Someone who works three part-time jobs at 26 hours each is working a staggering 78 hours a week, not counting the travel time to shuttle around between all those jobs.

You don't see it, KB, because you're self-employed and largely self-protected, but for those of us in the workplace, who every year face renewed demands to do more work for less money, it's pretty easy to see that the bosses will not be satisfied until the working man spends every waking hour at work and gets paid no more than his basic room and board. In other words, the restoration of slavery. It might masquerade as a rights-respecting ideology, but the only right it really respects is the right to get back on the treadmill and work yourself closer to the grave.
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby NomadPatriot on Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:28 am

because in 1950 money was worth more... minimum wage was $.75 cents an hour

it's almost like Ducky doesn't understand the Central Bank has destroyed the value of the dollar by introducing the Credit Card

it's called " adjusting for inflation"..

" A dollar in 1950 gives you the same spending power as $10 today. So, yes, you may have been able to buy a cup of coffee for a nickel in 1950, but a nickel was worth considerably more back then (about 50 cents in today’s dollars). "
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby The ram on Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:37 am

Dukasaur wrote:
The ram wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:In the 1950s, educated people voted for right-wing parties and the ignorant voted for left-wing parties.

The trend has gradually flipped -- in France starting with the '69 election, in the U.S. starting with the '72 election, and in Britain starting with the '74 election.

http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/Piketty2018.pdf#page=73

Right-wing populists, with their thuggish appeals to xenophobia and "traditional values" have to a large degree succeeded in persuading the workers to be willing co-conspirators in their own exploitation. Only education, and a lot of it, offers some shield against the brainwashing of the right.


Britain actually voted for a socialist government in July 1945, and again in the 70s after the 3 day week and winter of discontent.

I can figure out that the people at both these times were somewhat demoralised, tired and hungry. However, according to you they were idiots in 45 and intelligent in 74.

Anyone with a brain cell can conclude that in times of despair when opportunities are at a minimum, people will somewhat lose their individualism and drive to succeed. And become reliant on the state.

You are incapable of using information.


You're the one incapable of using information. The graph said nothing about who won the election, only about who the main support came from.


I don't need to use some graph to reach my conclusions. I use something lefties are devoid of, common sense.
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby KoolBak on Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:03 am

Don't fucking presume to lecture me based on what you think I am. You can mix into your thought stew the fact I was a vice president in a top tier commercial bank, am still a tax accountant and was a controller for 5 businesses. Meaningless. I won't lecture you based on the fact you drive a truck. Whole lotta stereotypes I could dredge up but I don't do that. I just HATE pontification. Discussion? Offering an opinion, not a hate filled lecture, is much more palatable. Probly won't happen here any time soon :lol:

Opinions. Assholes. We all got em. Yours just happen to be outlined ad nauseam here. More power to ya......

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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:04 am

It would be great if we were a social-democracy like France where they have a functioning subway system but they're they don't have anyone to actually operate it. Or like Canada which has submarines that can't go underwater and warships that have to be towed into battle. And so on and so forth.

Civilization in leftist countries is held together by string and glue. Systems fail as incompetence and amateurism festers. Complex systems become inoperable as the idiocracy spreads.
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Re: Shift to right driven by ignorance

Postby DoomYoshi on Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:04 am

Dukasaur wrote: In other words, the restoration of slavery.


In other words, the restoration of the natural order.

Aristotle wrote:those who are as different [from other men] as the soul from the body or man from beast—and they are in this state if their work is the use of the body, and if this is the best that can come from them—are slaves by nature. For them it is better to be ruled in accordance with this sort of rule, if such is the case for the other things mentioned.


He didn't realize quite how many people this statement applied to. People have been given freedom and wealth. They use it to watch cat videos. They don't deserve freedom and wealth anymore.
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