Who projects a better image of the US: Melania or Jane?

[DoomYoshi]

but milk & eggs are fine . because they do not require a life to be taken..

so if no life is taken, how do you get the milk from the calf that is drinking it?

[tzor]

so if no life is taken, how do you get the milk from the calf that is drinking it?

Most modern dairy cows generate more milk than a calf can drink.
Cows don't have "breasts" that lactate on demand; milk is stored in the udder.
Cows can't release the udder contents on their own so if a modern dairy cow isn't "milked" (even after the calf has had his/her fill) serious problems will occur to that cow.

Here was a local article about protests at a local farm

Female cows are never artificially inseminated on his farm, he said. The cows at Goodale Farms are kept in the pasture, where nature takes its course and calves stay with their mothers. Goodale said he has 40 cows, including the first one he bought when he started the dairy a decade ago.

“Mothers produce between five and six pounds of milk per day and calves can only drink about one pound per day,” Goodale said. “If we don’t milk the mothers they will get sick.” Goodale said he tried to relay this to the protesters outside his farm yesterday.

[betiko]

Based on the OP pictures my opinion is that melania trump is better looking than bernadette Sanders, but it's just an opinion.

The OP says "image".

There's a lot more to image than looks.

she dresses better and walks in a classier way too. Also she never talks and when she does she uses Michelle Obama speaches. Also, I'm pretty sure no one hates trump as much as her.

[NomadPatriot]

so if no life is taken, how do you get the milk from the calf that is drinking it?

Most modern dairy cows generate more milk than a calf can drink.
Cows don't have "breasts" that lactate on demand; milk is stored in the udder.
Cows can't release the udder contents on their own so if a modern dairy cow isn't "milked" (even after the calf has had his/her fill) serious problems will occur to that cow.

Here was a local article about protests at a local farm

Female cows are never artificially inseminated on his farm, he said. The cows at Goodale Farms are kept in the pasture, where nature takes its course and calves stay with their mothers. Goodale said he has 40 cows, including the first one he bought when he started the dairy a decade ago.

“Mothers produce between five and six pounds of milk per day and calves can only drink about one pound per day,” Goodale said. “If we don’t milk the mothers they will get sick.” Goodale said he tried to relay this to the protesters outside his farm yesterday.

the lack of basic general knowledge among some of these CC members is astounding...
they ask questions that are taught to elementary school kids & that can be answered within 0.0007 seconds if they would just type it into a internet search engine..

but they cannot even figure that much out..

[2dimes]

I'm not taking a side and agree dairy farms can be run in a very humane way but, those cows are only over producing because they are being milked.

I consume dairy.

Some of the giant dairy farms are producing loads of veal and the hormones used to increase production might not be super healthy for people.

[betiko]

I'm not taking a side and agree dairy farms can be run in a very humane way but, those cows are only over producing because they are being milked.

I consume dairy.

Some of the giant dairy farms are producing loads of veal and the hormones used to increase production might not be super healthy for people.

that's why it's illegal in europe and that's why we are not morbidly obese. like bernadette sanders.

[mrswdk]

EU still letting women take oestrogen pills then poop a load of oestrogen into the sea and turn fish gay though

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 46764.html

[NomadPatriot]

EU still letting women take oestrogen pills then poop a load of oestrogen into the sea and turn fish gay though

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 46764.html

someone watches Alex Jones....

[2dimes]

Gay fish? Hawt!

the hormones used to increase production might not be super healthy for people.

that's why it's illegal in europe and that's why we are not morbidly obese. like bernadette sanders.

Nope, it's illegal here too but we still get enough other stuff like yoga mat formula bread and tots to make us obese. That's part of why DoomYoshi can't just get cheap 'merican cheese off the shelf.

[mookiemcgee]

so if no life is taken, how do you get the milk from the calf that is drinking it?

Most modern dairy cows generate more milk than a calf can drink.
Cows don't have "breasts" that lactate on demand; milk is stored in the udder.
Cows can't release the udder contents on their own so if a modern dairy cow isn't "milked" (even after the calf has had his/her fill) serious problems will occur to that cow.

Here was a local article about protests at a local farm

Female cows are never artificially inseminated on his farm, he said. The cows at Goodale Farms are kept in the pasture, where nature takes its course and calves stay with their mothers. Goodale said he has 40 cows, including the first one he bought when he started the dairy a decade ago.

“Mothers produce between five and six pounds of milk per day and calves can only drink about one pound per day,” Goodale said. “If we don’t milk the mothers they will get sick.” Goodale said he tried to relay this to the protesters outside his farm yesterday.

So what about eggs, do vegetarians only eat unfertilized eggs as a rule? would you have to commit seppuku if you found out the omelette you ordered was made from fertilized eggs?

[betiko]

so if no life is taken, how do you get the milk from the calf that is drinking it?

Most modern dairy cows generate more milk than a calf can drink.
Cows don't have "breasts" that lactate on demand; milk is stored in the udder.
Cows can't release the udder contents on their own so if a modern dairy cow isn't "milked" (even after the calf has had his/her fill) serious problems will occur to that cow.

Here was a local article about protests at a local farm

Female cows are never artificially inseminated on his farm, he said. The cows at Goodale Farms are kept in the pasture, where nature takes its course and calves stay with their mothers. Goodale said he has 40 cows, including the first one he bought when he started the dairy a decade ago.

“Mothers produce between five and six pounds of milk per day and calves can only drink about one pound per day,” Goodale said. “If we don’t milk the mothers they will get sick.” Goodale said he tried to relay this to the protesters outside his farm yesterday.

So what about eggs, do vegetarians only eat unfertilized eggs as a rule? would you have to commit seppuku if you found out the omelette you ordered was made from fertilized eggs?

If you don t know it s not haram

[NomadPatriot]

so if no life is taken, how do you get the milk from the calf that is drinking it?

Most modern dairy cows generate more milk than a calf can drink.
Cows don't have "breasts" that lactate on demand; milk is stored in the udder.
Cows can't release the udder contents on their own so if a modern dairy cow isn't "milked" (even after the calf has had his/her fill) serious problems will occur to that cow.

Here was a local article about protests at a local farm

Female cows are never artificially inseminated on his farm, he said. The cows at Goodale Farms are kept in the pasture, where nature takes its course and calves stay with their mothers. Goodale said he has 40 cows, including the first one he bought when he started the dairy a decade ago.

“Mothers produce between five and six pounds of milk per day and calves can only drink about one pound per day,” Goodale said. “If we don’t milk the mothers they will get sick.” Goodale said he tried to relay this to the protesters outside his farm yesterday.

So what about eggs, do vegetarians only eat unfertilized eggs as a rule? would you have to commit seppuku if you found out the omelette you ordered was made from fertilized eggs?

ignorance is astounding.....

every single egg sold / eaten is unfertilized...

I mean what kind of stupid is this guy...?

someone cork his fork please...

[2dimes]

The kind that has had eggs on a farm?

[NomadPatriot]

The kind that has had eggs on a farm?

I didn't know you could go to a farm & order a omelette …

[riskllama]

The kind that has had eggs on a farm?

I didn't know you could go to a farm & order a omelette …

you can at most farms in canada.

[2dimes]

Probably quite a few in the US&A too.

[Dukasaur]

so if no life is taken, how do you get the milk from the calf that is drinking it?

Most modern dairy cows generate more milk than a calf can drink.
Cows don't have "breasts" that lactate on demand; milk is stored in the udder.
Cows can't release the udder contents on their own so if a modern dairy cow isn't "milked" (even after the calf has had his/her fill) serious problems will occur to that cow.

Here was a local article about protests at a local farm

Female cows are never artificially inseminated on his farm, he said. The cows at Goodale Farms are kept in the pasture, where nature takes its course and calves stay with their mothers. Goodale said he has 40 cows, including the first one he bought when he started the dairy a decade ago.

“Mothers produce between five and six pounds of milk per day and calves can only drink about one pound per day,” Goodale said. “If we don’t milk the mothers they will get sick.” Goodale said he tried to relay this to the protesters outside his farm yesterday.

the lack of basic general knowledge among some of these CC members is astounding...
they ask questions that are taught to elementary school kids & that can be answered within 0.0007 seconds if they would just type it into a internet search engine..

but they cannot even figure that much out..

I somewhat suspect that he knows a lot more about it than you are giving him credit for. You are giving in to your odd compulsion to make a rude response where no rudeness was needed, and that's preventing you from thinking things through.

The idyllic pastoral scene that tzor posted, with cows ranging free and calves staying with their mother, does happen. It is, however, exceedingly rare. The overwhelming majority of dairy farmers see their calves as a liability, not an asset, and ditch them as quickly as possible. Sometimes they are sold for veal production; other times, when veal prices are low, they are just killed outright. In most cases they are separated from their mother within 24 hours. The amount of milk the calves need may be small, but greed rules, and even that small amount is seen by most farmers as a needless loss.

https://kb.rspca.org.au/knowledge-base/what-happens-to-bobby-calves/

[riskllama]

hey, don't blame NP, duk - it's our fault for turning him into this "monster"... .

[NomadPatriot]

so if no life is taken, how do you get the milk from the calf that is drinking it?

Most modern dairy cows generate more milk than a calf can drink.
Cows don't have "breasts" that lactate on demand; milk is stored in the udder.
Cows can't release the udder contents on their own so if a modern dairy cow isn't "milked" (even after the calf has had his/her fill) serious problems will occur to that cow.

Here was a local article about protests at a local farm

Female cows are never artificially inseminated on his farm, he said. The cows at Goodale Farms are kept in the pasture, where nature takes its course and calves stay with their mothers. Goodale said he has 40 cows, including the first one he bought when he started the dairy a decade ago.

“Mothers produce between five and six pounds of milk per day and calves can only drink about one pound per day,” Goodale said. “If we don’t milk the mothers they will get sick.” Goodale said he tried to relay this to the protesters outside his farm yesterday.

the lack of basic general knowledge among some of these CC members is astounding...
they ask questions that are taught to elementary school kids & that can be answered within 0.0007 seconds if they would just type it into a internet search engine..

but they cannot even figure that much out..

I somewhat suspect that he knows a lot more about it than you are giving him credit for. You are giving in to your odd compulsion to make a rude response where no rudeness was needed, and that's preventing you from thinking things through.

The idyllic pastoral scene that tzor posted, with cows ranging free and calves staying with their mother, does happen. It is, however, exceedingly rare. The overwhelming majority of dairy farmers see their calves as a liability, not an asset, and ditch them as quickly as possible. Sometimes they are sold for veal production; other times, when veal prices are low, they are just killed outright. In most cases they are separated from their mother within 24 hours. The amount of milk the calves need may be small, but greed rules, and even that small amount is seen by most farmers as a needless loss.

https://kb.rspca.org.au/knowledge-base/what-happens-to-bobby-calves/

because you think you need to explain how dairy farms work to people....
my response was directed towards Doom's idiotic notion a dairy farm has to contend with a calf to get milk..

maybe you can come out from behind your righteous podium.. come down that big long staircase you built for yourself & explain to the people you see as dumb peasants how other things work...
hope you have more links to " general knowledge" you can reference since it seems that is what you need to do..

[2dimes]

Yeah, Duke.

[NomadPatriot]

Yeah, Duke.

[2dimes]

Seems to be an echo in here. Or, should we start a suspected multi report?

[NomadPatriot]

crazy Leftists love their conspiracy theories...

gets checkmated constantly.. needs an Impeachment hearing ..

[betiko]

I don't know how it is in the US but here bad quality eggs, ergo the ones where poor chicken are born and raised in cages and only eat and lay eggs without even moving are unfertilized.

Then you have eggs with the mention "bio" meaning that they are raised on a field... and there are also roosters on that field.. therefore some eggs are fertilized. If you buy bio eggs in a supermarket and put them in an incubator, chances are you get 3-4 chicks out of a twelve pack.

But those are not even the top quality eggs as the chicken aren t getting top quality grain and a certain amount of determined ground space... the top quality one have an even greater fertilized rate.

Don't listen to np...

[Dukasaur]

hope you have more links to " general knowledge" you can reference since it seems that is what you need to do..

Did you know that when de-icing your driveway, you should clear away the loose snow before applying salt?

https://www.wikihow.com/Remove-Ice-from-a-Driveway