So here's a question

[2dimes]

If you didn't watch the Irish guy make the heavy guy chase him until he was out of breath then laugh, you have no sense of humour. I did it several times. I'm going to do it more.

[riskllama]

If you didn't watch the Irish guy make the heavy guy chase him until he was out of breath then laugh, you have no sense of humour. I did it several times. I'm going to do it more.

perhaps you should just watch the entire movie? it's pretty good...

[jimboston]

we expect a person with economical power to be more cultured...

Saying “the USA has no culture” and saying “Americans are uncultured”... these are two different things.

The first is just wrong, by definition.

The second is generalization to the point where it’s ridiculous and makes the person saying it sound dumb.

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The word “cultured” is subjective, ambiguous, and ill defined.

In most cases when people say “Americans are generally an uncultured lot.” They really mean that a large percentage of Americans have little or no exposure to cultural experiences that Europeans (in general) give lip service to valuing.

First, I think that’s just wrong. Americans in general are probably more well traveled and more exposed to cultures different than their own than the average person on the planet.

Second, it becomes a matter or value and perspective.

The US is so big and is really not one culture but a group of various regional cultures. An Easterner going West and exposing himself to some time on a Dude Ranch, riding horses, hunting, fishing, hiking, etc.... he’s exposing himself to a different culture. No less so than a Polish person traveling to Spain is exposing himself to a different culture. Many Americans choose to experience the various American cultures instead of, before, or in addition to exploring other country’s cultures.

The point I’m making... you try to educate me to “not only see the American view”… and I’m trying to educate you to not discount the American view.

The fact that we seem loud, and in your face, and we are ‘everywhere’... this is because many people around the world want us to be, and consume our culture, our books, our music, out movies. If the world consumed less American culture maybe you all wouldn’t be so disdainful of it. It’s your own fault you eat it up.

Yes... if I eat a gallon of vanilla ice cream, I may bitch at the last bite that it’s gross or plain.... but no one made me eat the gallon.

This is the world’s relationship with American culture.

So if there’s nothing to it... drop your Netflix subscription and stop listening to R&B or Rock and Roll.

[2dimes]

Meh, bashing 'mericans is lame. It's no different to any other prejudice junk. Deciding to lump people into a group based on region, skin color, height, scent, fashion, weight... Whatever is just lazy.

Living in a caravan and drinking cheap wine while on the dole is a culture.

[nietzsche]

we expect a person with economical power to be more cultured...

Saying “the USA has no culture” and saying “Americans are uncultured”... these are two different things.

The first is just wrong, by definition.

The second is generalization to the point where it’s ridiculous and makes the person saying it sound dumb.

—-

The word “cultured” is subjective, ambiguous, and ill defined.

In most cases when people say “Americans are generally an uncultured lot.” They really mean that a large percentage of Americans have little or no exposure to cultural experiences that Europeans (in general) give lip service to valuing.

First, I think that’s just wrong. Americans in general are probably more well traveled and more exposed to cultures different than their own than the average person on the planet.

Second, it becomes a matter or value and perspective.

The US is so big and is really not one culture but a group of various regional cultures. An Easterner going West and exposing himself to some time on a Dude Ranch, riding horses, hunting, fishing, hiking, etc.... he’s exposing himself to a different culture. No less so than a Polish person traveling to Spain is exposing himself to a different culture. Many Americans choose to experience the various American cultures instead of, before, or in addition to exploring other country’s cultures.

The point I’m making... you try to educate me to “not only see the American view”… and I’m trying to educate you to not discount the American view.

The fact that we seem loud, and in your face, and we are ‘everywhere’... this is because many people around the world want us to be, and consume our culture, our books, our music, out movies. If the world consumed less American culture maybe you all wouldn’t be so disdainful of it. It’s your own fault you eat it up.

Yes... if I eat a gallon of vanilla ice cream, I may bitch at the last bite that it’s gross or plain.... but no one made me eat the gallon.

This is the world’s relationship with American culture.

So if there’s nothing to it... drop your Netflix subscription and stop listening to R&B or Rock and Roll.

I listen to british rock thank you.

no, but i'm not even contradicting you, i'm conceding all those points. we're consuming american media and products, you market very well, and you produce a lot.

what i'm transmitting you it's an image that not for nothing it's a current stereotype, it's an opinion many have about americans. but you're there, in our minds, if you weren't we wouldn't even have that idea. we don't ridicule people from the Congo or some other very poor country because they don't know shit about x.

culture is a big umbrella, and as you say we can judge one culture basing ourselves on some arbitrary principles, but we cannot say it doesn't exist.

there's another idea that came to my mind the other day, maybe there are so many different influences in America that end up neutralising themselves, creating thus this pragmatic approach.

but this different influences are not nearly as rich the cultures they come from, for instance i'm often ashamed of the americans of mexican descent.. they speak the most idiotic spanish, both in grammar and word selection, they keep some traditions but in the poorest manner, and they incorporate american aspects that make it even worse. and not to mention the way they dress, that cholo culture is a migraine. every time i hear "mijo" i feel i'm going to explode.


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we do consume your media, but honestly, what i've enjoyed most, recently, in condensed works (a book, a movie, a series, in contrast to bits of this and that on the internet) is two argentinian movies, two russian books, one spanish and one colombian. in the middle of that it's game of thrones though. I haven't read anything in a while, but every time i think of read something, i'm looking for something russian or south american.

recently i re-watched the first three bourne movies, i enjoy them a lot. but it's like i said, something not very meaningful, something quick, not difficult. that's just like american culture isn't it? quick, fast, easy, pragmatic.


i don't think there's nothing to be ashamed of.

also, you need to understand i troll a lot. i truly enjoyed making room to include that In Bruges clip. I was also honestly hoping KB showed up complaining about my generalisations.


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if something exists, then it exists. the stereotype is not fake news, it exists, and has a reason to exist. we might be doing some wrong math in our brains when we adopt the stereotype, but for something many people keep making the "mistake".

don't take it to heart, that guy in the clip probably can't even type 3 paragraphs. you are not that guy. maybe 2dimes who don't seem to keep a focused train of thought, but not you.

if i get testicular cancer you will be to blame.

[jimboston]

but it's like i said, something not very meaningful, something quick, not difficult. that's just like american culture isn't it? quick, fast, easy, pragmatic.

Try reading Moby Dick.

There’s nothing simple or easy or quick about that book.

(It‘s supposedly a classic but I think it’s horrible. If I read it 100years ago maybe my opinion would be different.)

Seriously though... there’s Pop Culture that is light and simple, and that’s what it’s supposed to be... quick and easy.

... but for every Pop song, simple Borne book or Summer Blockbuster movie, there are alternatives that you could find if you looked that have more depth and meaning.

[2dimes]

Seems, relevant.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/14/new-o ... re-attack/

[NomadPatriot]

Try reading Moby Dick.

There’s nothing simple or easy or quick about that book..

why spend all that time reading it..here it is in a nutshell in under 2 minutes..

[riskllama]

Try reading Moby Dick.

There’s nothing simple or easy or quick about that book..

why spend all that time reading it..here it is in a nutshell in under 2 minutes..

[DoomYoshi]

I've always wanted to get this complete set:
https://www.loa.org/

It's like La Pleiades, but actually semi-affordable (at only 7000). The problem is - the longer I wait, the less affordable it gets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioth% ... %C3%A9iade