100% Tariffs on EU!

[GoranZ]

The EU country in which Muslims make up the largest share of the population is Cyprus: The island nation’s 300,000 Muslims make up about one-quarter (25.4%) of its population, and are mostly Turkish Cypriots with deep roots in Cyprus (and not recent migrants).

You are talking about the inhabitants of Northern Cyprus... Yes they are Muslim but only half of them have origin from Cyprus.

[NomadPatriot]

Counterpoint: no, and talking about "Islamic forces" is really weird, there being no actual Army of Islam.

Army of Islam (Gaza Strip)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_Islam_(Gaza_Strip)

This is not an armed force representing Muslims intent on invading Europe, which is what Tzor said is literally going to happen. It's a faction fighting with Hamas for political power in the Gaza Strip. Nice try bud. Here's the Army of God, who I assume is fighting on behalf of everybody who believes in God. Which stinks, I definitely didn't vote for them.

why are you inserting the word "armed" into the conversation...?

Tzor did not say anything about 'ARMED" forces …

but maybe you should read the entire Wikipedia page..

--> In 2011, the group told the French security services that they had planned an attack on the Bataclan theatre because its owners were Jewish ( this theatre is in Paris France.. that is in .. --> Europe.. )

[NomadPatriot]

To quote your own article:

A parallel complaint by the EU, alleging illegal U.S. subsidies for Boeing, is running with some 6 months of delay. The EU expects the outcome of that case to give the bloc the right to retaliate with its own tariffs next year

The sooner we get rid of NATO and break all friendly relations with the USA the better.

yes .. please break all friendly relations with the US... so the next time you beg us to come over there and help you in a war.. we can just laugh in your face
the US is the ONLY thing keeping Russia from snapping Europe in half..
do not doubt that..

Why would Russia seek to destroy its most valuable trade partner? As far as I know Putin is not dumb as Trump

the Netherlands is Russia's most valuable trading partner.. and we all know the Netherlands will surrender immediately... so no need to destroy them..

[GoranZ]

To quote your own article:

A parallel complaint by the EU, alleging illegal U.S. subsidies for Boeing, is running with some 6 months of delay. The EU expects the outcome of that case to give the bloc the right to retaliate with its own tariffs next year

The sooner we get rid of NATO and break all friendly relations with the USA the better.

yes .. please break all friendly relations with the US... so the next time you beg us to come over there and help you in a war.. we can just laugh in your face
the US is the ONLY thing keeping Russia from snapping Europe in half..
do not doubt that..

Why would Russia seek to destroy its most valuable trade partner? As far as I know Putin is not dumb as Trump

the Netherlands is Russia's most valuable trading partner.. and we all know the Netherlands will surrender immediately... so no need to destroy them..

You have twisted fantasy!

[NomadPatriot]

To quote your own article:

A parallel complaint by the EU, alleging illegal U.S. subsidies for Boeing, is running with some 6 months of delay. The EU expects the outcome of that case to give the bloc the right to retaliate with its own tariffs next year

The sooner we get rid of NATO and break all friendly relations with the USA the better.

yes .. please break all friendly relations with the US... so the next time you beg us to come over there and help you in a war.. we can just laugh in your face
the US is the ONLY thing keeping Russia from snapping Europe in half..
do not doubt that..

Why would Russia seek to destroy its most valuable trade partner? As far as I know Putin is not dumb as Trump

the Netherlands is Russia's most valuable trading partner.. and we all know the Netherlands will surrender immediately... so no need to destroy them..

You have twisted fantasy!

just sayin'....

1) The Dutch surrender in 1795 is known as the Capitulation of Rustenburg

2) New Amsterdam surrendered to the English

3) DUTCH SURRENDER EAST INDIES. In the seven-hour, on-and-off Battle of the Java Sea on Febru­ary 27, 1942

4) Nazi Germany invaded the Netherlands in May 10th, 1940 and the Dutch government surrendered May 15th 1940

5) The surrender of New Netherland, 1664

& Hilariously
6) On Friday the court in Assen banned No Surrender MC in the Netherlands, ruling that the motorcycle club poses a danger to public order. No Surrender is the fourth motorcycle club to be banned in the Netherlands

[waauw]

Nonsense. There are far fewer muslims in Europe than most Americans seem to realize.
In Germany current surveys put Islam in a mere range between 2.2% and 3.7%.

The Pew Research Center Disagrees with you by a factor of two. Germany's Muslim population is 6.1% and France's is 8.8%

As of mid-2016, there were 5.7 million Muslims in France (8.8% of the country’s population) and 5 million Muslims in Germany (6.1%). The EU country in which Muslims make up the largest share of the population is Cyprus: The island nation’s 300,000 Muslims make up about one-quarter (25.4%) of its population, and are mostly Turkish Cypriots with deep roots in Cyprus (and not recent migrants).

Well these 4 researches disagree, here's Germany again:

• Eurobarometer(2018): 3.7%
• German General Social Survey(2018): 2.9%
• International Social Survey(2017): 2.5%
• Politbarometer(2017): 2.2%

I wonder about the reliability of this Pew Research, especially since religious surveys are illegal in France. Every number you get out of France is extremely unreliable, all being derivative from indirect numbers or qualitative research rather than quantitative.

(see sources at bottom)

[waauw]

You have twisted fantasy!

just sayin'....

1) The Dutch surrender in 1795 is known as the Capitulation of Rustenburg

2) New Amsterdam surrendered to the English

3) DUTCH SURRENDER EAST INDIES. In the seven-hour, on-and-off Battle of the Java Sea on Febru­ary 27, 1942

4) Nazi Germany invaded the Netherlands in May 10th, 1940 and the Dutch government surrendered May 15th 1940

5) The surrender of New Netherland, 1664

& Hilariously
6) On Friday the court in Assen banned No Surrender MC in the Netherlands, ruling that the motorcycle club poses a danger to public order. No Surrender is the fourth motorcycle club to be banned in the Netherlands

All of which mean nothing, unless you mean to say surrendering is in their blood. Which would obviously say a great deal about your views of the world if that were the case.

[NomadPatriot]

You have twisted fantasy!

just sayin'....

1) The Dutch surrender in 1795 is known as the Capitulation of Rustenburg

2) New Amsterdam surrendered to the English

3) DUTCH SURRENDER EAST INDIES. In the seven-hour, on-and-off Battle of the Java Sea on Febru­ary 27, 1942

4) Nazi Germany invaded the Netherlands in May 10th, 1940 and the Dutch government surrendered May 15th 1940

5) The surrender of New Netherland, 1664

& Hilariously
6) On Friday the court in Assen banned No Surrender MC in the Netherlands, ruling that the motorcycle club poses a danger to public order. No Surrender is the fourth motorcycle club to be banned in the Netherlands

All of which mean nothing, unless you mean to say surrendering is in their blood. Which would obviously say a great deal about your views of the world if that were the case.

it shows they have a long history of surrendering & says nothing about my views of 'the world'. just my view of the Netherlands.. Russia's Most Valuable Trading Partner..

[tzor]

I wonder about the reliability of this Pew Research, especially since religious surveys are illegal in France.

Wikipedia:The Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan American think tank (referring to itself as a "fact tank") based in Washington, D.C. It provides information on social issues, public opinion, and demographic trends shaping the United States and the world.[3] It also conducts public opinion polling, demographic research, media content analysis, and other empirical social science research. The Pew Research Center does not take policy positions, and is a subsidiary of The Pew Charitable Trusts.

Media Bias Fact Check: Overall, we rate Pew Research Least Biased and Very High for factual reporting due to excellent sourcing.
In review, Pew Research primarily is a polling and survey outlet that utilizes and publishes their methodology.
A factual search reveals that Pew Research has never failed a fact check. In fact, Pew information is used by fact checkers to verify data.

[tzor]

So if you click through the article which cites another article which links to methodology you will come up Here

Two French surveys are particularly important for this report. Our baseline estimate of the size of France’s 2010 Muslim population is based primarily on data from the 2008 “Trajectories and Origins” survey of more than 20,000 respondents in metropolitan France (which includes oversamples of first- and second-generation immigrants) sponsored by the French Institute for Demographic Studies (INED) and the National Institute of Statistics and Economic Studies (INSEE). Our projection to 2016 was validated against a 2016 survey of 15,459 respondents sponsored by the Institut Montaigne and carried out by the French Institute of Public Opinion (Ifop).

[NomadPatriot]

I wonder about the reliability of this Pew Research, especially since religious surveys are illegal in France.

do you have any reference for this ..?

why would a country intentionally not want to know the religious demographics of it's population.. ?

i think you meant to say Religious SYMBOLS are illegal in France.. not Religious SURVEYS...

[waauw]

I wonder about the reliability of this Pew Research, especially since religious surveys are illegal in France.

do you have any reference for this ..?

why would a country intentionally not want to know the religious demographics of it's population.. ?

i think you meant to say Religious SYMBOLS are illegal in France.. not Religious SURVEYS...

Nope.

La France ne dispose pas de statistiques officielles permettant de comparer les chiffres de chacune des communautés religieuses. Les estimations qui doivent se fonder sur les enquêtes d'opinion représentatives restent relativement incertaines

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_en_France

[NomadPatriot]

La France ne dispose pas de statistiques officielles permettant de comparer les chiffres de chacune des communautés religieuses. Les estimations qui doivent se fonder sur les enquêtes d'opinion représentatives restent relativement incertaines

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_en_France

Translated into English France does not have official statistics to compare the figures of each of the religious communities. Estimates to be based on representative opinion polls remain relatively uncertain

that says nothing about religious surveys in France being illegal..

[waauw]

La France ne dispose pas de statistiques officielles permettant de comparer les chiffres de chacune des communautés religieuses. Les estimations qui doivent se fonder sur les enquêtes d'opinion représentatives restent relativement incertaines

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_en_France

Translated into English France does not have official statistics to compare the figures of each of the religious communities. Estimates to be based on representative opinion polls remain relatively uncertain

that says nothing about religious surveys in France being illegal..

Just so you know, but the word 'permettant' has more than one meaning. In this case it refers to the fact that the comparison of statistics between religious communities is illegal. There are finer details there but overall French law is extremely strict on discrimination. In practice these laws concerning statistics have wider implications towards surveys as well.

[waauw]

Europe, unfortunately, will soon be the center of a proxy war between a number of powers. The first force will be Islamic forces from the Middle East. The second force will be the China, expanding its influence through the one belt and one road initiative; they have already started to send "security" forces to several key European points of interest. Last and, frankly, least, is Russia who stands to make a small profit off of everything.

If Europe wants to drop NATO, more power to it. The US can always use deficit reductions. It's highly unlikely that NATO is equipped to handle the internal strife / economic takeover of the coming years anyway.

BTW, when are you going to elaborate on your Nostradamus prediction. I'm sure both China and the Middle-East are making war in Europe a priority by now. I'd like to know when I should expect the bombs to fall.

[NomadPatriot]

La France ne dispose pas de statistiques officielles permettant de comparer les chiffres de chacune des communautés religieuses. Les estimations qui doivent se fonder sur les enquêtes d'opinion représentatives restent relativement incertaines

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_en_France

Translated into English France does not have official statistics to compare the figures of each of the religious communities. Estimates to be based on representative opinion polls remain relatively uncertain

that says nothing about religious surveys in France being illegal..

Just so you know, but the word 'permettant' has more than one meaning. In this case it refers to the fact that the comparison of statistics between religious communities is illegal. There are finer details there but overall French law is extremely strict on discrimination. In practice these laws concerning statistics have wider implications towards surveys as well.

permettant translated into English - Allowing


again.. you have not provided anything saying religious surveys in France are illegal..

[GoranZ]

You have twisted fantasy!

just sayin'....

1) The Dutch surrender in 1795 is known as the Capitulation of Rustenburg

2) New Amsterdam surrendered to the English

3) DUTCH SURRENDER EAST INDIES. In the seven-hour, on-and-off Battle of the Java Sea on Febru­ary 27, 1942

4) Nazi Germany invaded the Netherlands in May 10th, 1940 and the Dutch government surrendered May 15th 1940

5) The surrender of New Netherland, 1664

& Hilariously
6) On Friday the court in Assen banned No Surrender MC in the Netherlands, ruling that the motorcycle club poses a danger to public order. No Surrender is the fourth motorcycle club to be banned in the Netherlands

All of which mean nothing, unless you mean to say surrendering is in their blood. Which would obviously say a great deal about your views of the world if that were the case.

it shows they have a long history of surrendering & says nothing about my views of 'the world'. just my view of the Netherlands.. Russia's Most Valuable Trading Partner..

Holland is not a country famous for surrendering... Another country with (kind of) similar flag is. I was even making jokes about it few years ago and everyone liked them
Are you sure your screen is not rotated, or you are an American you know everything

[NomadPatriot]

You have twisted fantasy!

just sayin'....

1) The Dutch surrender in 1795 is known as the Capitulation of Rustenburg

2) New Amsterdam surrendered to the English

3) DUTCH SURRENDER EAST INDIES. In the seven-hour, on-and-off Battle of the Java Sea on Febru­ary 27, 1942

4) Nazi Germany invaded the Netherlands in May 10th, 1940 and the Dutch government surrendered May 15th 1940

5) The surrender of New Netherland, 1664

& Hilariously
6) On Friday the court in Assen banned No Surrender MC in the Netherlands, ruling that the motorcycle club poses a danger to public order. No Surrender is the fourth motorcycle club to be banned in the Netherlands

All of which mean nothing, unless you mean to say surrendering is in their blood. Which would obviously say a great deal about your views of the world if that were the case.

it shows they have a long history of surrendering & says nothing about my views of 'the world'. just my view of the Netherlands.. Russia's Most Valuable Trading Partner..

Holland is not a country famous for surrendering... Another country with (kind of) similar flag is. I was even making jokes about it few years ago and everyone liked them
Are you sure your screen is not rotated, or you are an American you know everything

historical facts are what they are..

[GoranZ]

You have twisted fantasy!

just sayin'....

1) The Dutch surrender in 1795 is known as the Capitulation of Rustenburg

2) New Amsterdam surrendered to the English

3) DUTCH SURRENDER EAST INDIES. In the seven-hour, on-and-off Battle of the Java Sea on Febru­ary 27, 1942

4) Nazi Germany invaded the Netherlands in May 10th, 1940 and the Dutch government surrendered May 15th 1940

5) The surrender of New Netherland, 1664

& Hilariously
6) On Friday the court in Assen banned No Surrender MC in the Netherlands, ruling that the motorcycle club poses a danger to public order. No Surrender is the fourth motorcycle club to be banned in the Netherlands

All of which mean nothing, unless you mean to say surrendering is in their blood. Which would obviously say a great deal about your views of the world if that were the case.

it shows they have a long history of surrendering & says nothing about my views of 'the world'. just my view of the Netherlands.. Russia's Most Valuable Trading Partner..

Holland is not a country famous for surrendering... Another country with (kind of) similar flag is. I was even making jokes about it few years ago and everyone liked them
Are you sure your screen is not rotated, or you are an American you know everything

historical facts are what they are..

Holland was world superpower for over a century. US has many decades ahead to achieve the same

[mookiemcgee]

I heard today that trump saved Christmas because his people have given an exemption to 25% tariffs on Christmas lights.

[NomadPatriot]

Holland was world superpower for over a century. US has many decades ahead to achieve the same

yes.. they were a world superpower..

so was Mongolia..

[GoranZ]

Holland was world superpower for over a century. US has many decades ahead to achieve the same

yes.. they were a world superpower..

so was Mongolia..

Thus the same will happen to US, so enjoy your fame while you can... It has expiration date

[HitRed]

USMCA will be the next superpower

[tzor]

Thus the same will happen to US, so enjoy your fame while you can... It has expiration date

Of course, but not today and that's all that matters.

[NomadPatriot]

Holland was world superpower for over a century. US has many decades ahead to achieve the same

yes.. they were a world superpower..

so was Mongolia..

Thus the same will happen to US, so enjoy your fame while you can... It has expiration date

we may lose superpower status one day.. sure
we might even get invaded..
but if that day does ever come … Americans will die with a weapon in their hand and a snarl in their warcry as they defend the last piece of free dirt they have left.. we will never surrender..
unlike The Netherlands..

so if anybody wants to come on over and poke the Lions.. we are waiting.. anytime