The Green New Deal - Collectable Posters!!

[mrswdk]

It’s kinda dumb of them to present this as a party political cause. It’s the future of the planet, but by making it an ‘our side’ issue they’re just alienating half the population and thereby decreasing the chance of their message gaining any traction. Which is sad, because the future of humanity isn’t really a party political issue.

Another body claimed by toxic US politics: the planet.

When you’re right you’re right.

Even if I don’t like you... it doesn’t make you not right.

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[NomadPatriot]

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[jimboston]

well look at this..
NomadPatriot, Mrswdk & JMboston are all not arguing and in agreement on a topic

We are in agreement?

You mean you agree that Global Warming/Climate Change is a real problem?

Because that’s what mrswdk and I are agreeing on... I think you’re agreeing on something else.

I’m ok with public transportation. I’d be happy to give up my private car if we could get together and build public transportation that worked, was cost effective, clean, reliable. I know it can be done, but I don’t think the politicians can stand up to special interests. Is that what you’re agreeing with?

I didn’t think so.

I thought we were all in agreement the posters were stupid. .

I don’t care about the fake posters.

I’m in agreement with you on one thing... that you’re an asshole.

[jimboston]

I wonder though.. when people get on the train.. what do they do with their bicycles...?

in the cities I've lived in, you're allowed to take bikes on non-rush hour trains. lots of buses have bike racks, too.

helpful tip - do an online search for [local transit authority] bikes. It will usually help you find relevant information!

example https://www.mbta.com/bikes

buses..??

buses would not be eco-friendly enough for the Green New Deal.. + without cars .. then you would have to account for a massive increase in the number of train passengers & a massive increase of bikes being used daily..

a electric train would have to be able to accommodate a potential bicycle for every passenger. considering it would not be feasible to build high rise trains for every residential sector & business sector.

like in the 1st poster. the city is about 3-4 miles away in the distance. and there is a single train passing by.

The posters, real or fake, are not detailed plans.
They’re just posters.

You’re not supposed to take them literally.

[NomadPatriot]

well look at this..
NomadPatriot, Mrswdk & JMboston are all not arguing and in agreement on a topic

We are in agreement?

You mean you agree that Global Warming/Climate Change is a real problem?

Because that’s what mrswdk and I are agreeing on... I think you’re agreeing on something else.

I’m ok with public transportation. I’d be happy to give up my private car if we could get together and build public transportation that worked, was cost effective, clean, reliable. I know it can be done, but I don’t think the politicians can stand up to special interests. Is that what you’re agreeing with?

I didn’t think so.

I thought we were all in agreement the posters were stupid. .

I don’t care about the fake posters.

I’m in agreement with you on one thing... that you’re an asshole.

yes I am... proud 100% a$$hole

but if your too dumb to even know those are the actual New Green Deal Posters that were released.. that isn't my fault.
keep up with the times Jimmy..
you're lagging

[jimboston]

well look at this..
NomadPatriot, Mrswdk & JMboston are all not arguing and in agreement on a topic

We are in agreement?

You mean you agree that Global Warming/Climate Change is a real problem?

Because that’s what mrswdk and I are agreeing on... I think you’re agreeing on something else.

I’m ok with public transportation. I’d be happy to give up my private car if we could get together and build public transportation that worked, was cost effective, clean, reliable. I know it can be done, but I don’t think the politicians can stand up to special interests. Is that what you’re agreeing with?

I didn’t think so.

I thought we were all in agreement the posters were stupid. .

I don’t care about the fake posters.

I’m in agreement with you on one thing... that you’re an asshole.

yes I am... proud 100% a$$hole

but if your too dumb to even know those are the actual New Green Deal Posters that were released.. that isn't my fault.
keep up with the times Jimmy..
you're lagging

I don’t know or care if those are real posters.

I don’t make political decisions based on the quality (or lack thereof) of the marketing material.
I’m sorry for this country that people like you do.

[tzor]

All this talk of bicycles, buses and trains are fascinating, but you all sound like a bunch of people in the suburbs. (I should know because I am from the area that goes between suburb and farmland.) In NYC, for example (and it's a good example because that is where AOC comes from) few people in the city who use bicycles actually own them. There is a rental system that's in place. You take the subway /bus to the general location, then go to the parking spot where the rentals are, insert your card and take your bicycle. You don't even have to return it to the same spot.

There are a lot of problems in New York, but honestly, I think the problem is more with the people. I was in Bangalore a long time ago; cars sharing the road with bicycles, auto rickshaws, and animal driven carts. It was crazy but it all went smoothly, in its own way. Mind you the traffic cops were mostly in secure bunkers but ...

[spurgistan]

IN the Green Deal people get $1,000 a month not to work. Endless luxury and free time.

a) Please show me where it says that in the job creation bill. What you posted about is some Andrew Yang stuff. Which will happen eventually, but we don't quite need UBI just yet. Automation and the need for UBI is a big 2030 problem. The fact that the world is dying and we need to create jobs to make it die a little bit less is a 2019 problem (if not like a 1995 problem, but, Congress, right?)

b) You think $1000 a month is enough to live in luxury? In the United States???

A) Andrew Yang
B) was at the end

But Andrew Yang isn't Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or any of the sponsors of the bill, since he's not in the Congress. Ergo, his baby, UBI, which solves 2030's problems today, isn't explicitly a part of the GND. Which, again, is a job creation bill. Like the New Deal, which these posters draw artistic inspiration from.

And fair, I read the eyeroll as rolling eyes at the idiocy of UBI. Fair cop.

[NomadPatriot]

well look at this..
NomadPatriot, Mrswdk & JMboston are all not arguing and in agreement on a topic

We are in agreement?

You mean you agree that Global Warming/Climate Change is a real problem?

Because that’s what mrswdk and I are agreeing on... I think you’re agreeing on something else.

I’m ok with public transportation. I’d be happy to give up my private car if we could get together and build public transportation that worked, was cost effective, clean, reliable. I know it can be done, but I don’t think the politicians can stand up to special interests. Is that what you’re agreeing with?

I didn’t think so.

I thought we were all in agreement the posters were stupid. .

I don’t care about the fake posters.

I’m in agreement with you on one thing... that you’re an asshole.

yes I am... proud 100% a$$hole

but if your too dumb to even know those are the actual New Green Deal Posters that were released.. that isn't my fault.
keep up with the times Jimmy..
you're lagging

I don’t know or care if those are real posters.

I don’t make political decisions based on the quality (or lack thereof) of the marketing material.
I’m sorry for this country that people like you do.

you do not make political decisions based on what is presented to the public to educate them on the topic ( Marketing Materials)..
ok.. I see how you decide on things..
I guess you just blindly vote blue... because whatever they are proposing just has to be good..

[mrswdk]

I was in Bangalore a long time ago; cars sharing the road with bicycles, auto rickshaws, and animal driven carts. It was crazy but it all went smoothly, in its own way. Mind you the traffic cops were mostly in secure bunkers but ...

I was about to say 'countries where people drive like that have a lot more road accidents', but then I looked it up and although Indian roads are indeed much more dangerous than European roads, they are apparently roughly equally as dangerous as American roads:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... death_rate

How tf are American drivers so dangerous?

[jimboston]

you do not make political decisions based on what is presented to the public to educate them on the topic ( Marketing Materials)..
ok.. I see how you decide on things..
I guess you just blindly vote blue... because whatever they are proposing just has to be good..

It’s funny that you equate marketing materials with “information presented to the public to educate them on the topic”.




This isn’t the stupidest thing you’ve ever said, but it’s pretty idiotic.

Marketing Materials are simple propaganda.

If you want to understand the subject properly you gotta go a little deeper Nomad.

... but you’re pretty basic in your thinking, and going ‘deep’ and understanding innuendo or context is obviously a bit beyond you.

It’s ok.

[NomadPatriot]

you do not make political decisions based on what is presented to the public to educate them on the topic ( Marketing Materials)..
ok.. I see how you decide on things..
I guess you just blindly vote blue... because whatever they are proposing just has to be good..

It’s funny that you equate marketing materials with “information presented to the public to educate them on the topic”.




This isn’t the stupidest thing you’ve ever said, but it’s pretty idiotic.

Marketing Materials are simple propaganda.

If you want to understand the subject properly you gotta go a little deeper Nomad.

... but you’re pretty basic in your thinking, and going ‘deep’ and understanding innuendo or context is obviously a bit beyond you.

It’s ok.

so you are saying you never use any Marketing Materials to make decisions on what to vote for...

hmmmm..
let's see.. you would not use anything listed below..

Marketing Materials

Marketing Materials means

1) advertisements (such as material published, or designed for use, in a newspaper, magazine or other periodical, radio, television, telephone or tape recording, videotape display, signs or billboards, motion pictures or other public media), sales literature (such as any written communication distributed or made generally available to customers or the public, including brochures, circulars, research reports, market letters, form letters, seminar texts, or reprints or excerpts of any other advertisement, sales literature, or published article), educational or training materials or other communications distributed or made generally available to financial intermediaries or prospective investors in connection with distribution or servicing activities, and any other material constituting sales literature or advertising under FINRA rules, the 1940 Act or the 1933 Act.

2) means all advertising and marketing materials, including packaging, tags, labels, advertising, marketing, promotions, displays, display fixtures, instructions, technical sheets, user guides, data sheets, warranties, websites and other materials of any and all types, in any format or media, associated with products or services within the Steel Fields of Use that include any of the Licensed Marks.

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/m ... -materials

you wouldn't reference .. Educational Material, Research Reports, Data Sheets, communications distributed or made generally available, Technical Sheets, Websites, or other materials of any and all types in any format or media associated with products or services...

you used the terminology " Marketing Materials.. " saying you would never use Marketing Materials to decide on what to vote for. .
so if you do not use any of the fore-mentioned things.. I have no clue what you use...

seems I was right. you just vote Blue.

[jimboston]

You are trying to hard.




If you want to keep trying to convince us that posters are a great source of important decision making information... go for it.

[NomadPatriot]

You are trying to hard.




If you want to keep trying to convince us that posters are a great source of important decision making information... go for it.

I never said they were..

seems I just owned you on the " I never use Marketing Materials " claim you made.

I know Jim.. it's hard to keep up with your own statements.
you cannot even back-up your claims you make againist others & now you cannot even back-up the statements you make about yourself.

SAD..

[jimboston]

i would think the future of the planet would include a technology that would be eco-friendly. but it is not depicted anywhere. .. just bicycles & a single train.

no electric cars.. no 'flying vehicles' nothing convenient enough to be used by the individual. nothing technologically functional for the common human..

hopefully the future is not technologically reverting to the 18th century as depicted in the posters.

Example of Nomad taking a stupid poster literally as-if it’s the complete Green New Deal Plan described in a simple to understand 27” x 39” graphic.

[NomadPatriot]

i would think the future of the planet would include a technology that would be eco-friendly. but it is not depicted anywhere. .. just bicycles & a single train.

no electric cars.. no 'flying vehicles' nothing convenient enough to be used by the individual. nothing technologically functional for the common human..

hopefully the future is not technologically reverting to the 18th century as depicted in the posters.

Example of Nomad taking a stupid poster literally as-if it’s the complete Green New Deal Plan described in a simple to understand 27” x 39” graphic.

I didn't say 'it depicts the complete green new deal plan'.. that is what is presented to illustrate the outcome of the Green New Deal.. .
present me with something that shows the complete green new deal plan..

[spurgistan]

I'd recommend you execute an Internet search for Green New Deal legislation if you're interested in what's in the bill. I also linked to it a page or so ago.

[NomadPatriot]

I'd recommend you execute an Internet search for Green New Deal legislation if you're interested in what's in the bill. I also linked to it a page or so ago.

Jim.. do you have any references we can look at.. ?

[jimboston]

I'd recommend you execute an Internet search for Green New Deal legislation if you're interested in what's in the bill. I also linked to it a page or so ago.

Jim.. do you have any references we can look at.. ?

Dude, your the guy that started this thread and began making detailed critiques of the Green New Deal based solely on their posters.
Apparently you don’t need more details to find it to be a bad idea... all you need to know is it was proposed by “the Left”... and then you pass judgement.

Critical Thinking Nomad Style

[NomadPatriot]

I'd recommend you execute an Internet search for Green New Deal legislation if you're interested in what's in the bill. I also linked to it a page or so ago.

Jim.. do you have any references we can look at.. ?

Dude, your the guy that started this thread and began making detailed critiques of the Green New Deal based solely on their posters.
Apparently you don’t need more details to find it to be a bad idea... all you need to know is it was proposed by “the Left”... and then you pass judgement.

Critical Thinking Nomad Style

I know all about it..
the posters depict the dystopian future forecasted by the green new deal..

but you claim is doesn't..
just waiting for you to prove me wrong..

[jimboston]

I'd recommend you execute an Internet search for Green New Deal legislation if you're interested in what's in the bill. I also linked to it a page or so ago.

Jim.. do you have any references we can look at.. ?

Dude, your the guy that started this thread and began making detailed critiques of the Green New Deal based solely on their posters.
Apparently you don’t need more details to find it to be a bad idea... all you need to know is it was proposed by “the Left”... and then you pass judgement.

Critical Thinking Nomad Style

I know all about it..
the posters depict the dystopian future forecasted by the green new deal..

but you claim is doesn't..
just waiting for you to prove me wrong..

The only thing I claim is that it’s a poster.

You’re the one trying to get deep meaning out of it and using it as your sole source for the detailed proposals made by Green New Deal proponents.

Are you ok? You keep flip-flopping on this.
First you read deep meaning into it, then you claim that’s not true, and now you again are saying it’s a ‘forecast of the future’.

You should pick one idea and stick with it.

[NomadPatriot]

I'd recommend you execute an Internet search for Green New Deal legislation if you're interested in what's in the bill. I also linked to it a page or so ago.

Jim.. do you have any references we can look at.. ?

Dude, your the guy that started this thread and began making detailed critiques of the Green New Deal based solely on their posters.
Apparently you don’t need more details to find it to be a bad idea... all you need to know is it was proposed by “the Left”... and then you pass judgement.

Critical Thinking Nomad Style

I know all about it..
the posters depict the dystopian future forecasted by the green new deal..

but you claim is doesn't..
just waiting for you to prove me wrong..

The only thing I claim is that it’s a poster.

You’re the one trying to get deep meaning out of it and using it as your sole source for the detailed proposals made by Green New Deal proponents.

Are you ok? You keep flip-flopping on this.
First you read deep meaning into it, then you claim that’s not true, and now you again are saying it’s a ‘forecast of the future’.

You should pick one idea and stick with it.

I mean i have asked you like 2 or 3 times to just reference something I can use to see the complete new green deal plan.. but you just keep skirting around showing me something..

I guess you do not actually know anything about it nor can you reference anything ..

looking more & more like " Blue said vote for it.. so Jim votes for it blindly.. "

[jimboston]

You keep trying the same dumb tactic.

You’re the one who started this thread...I’ve not commented on the Pro’s or Con’s of the GND.

I’ve only commented on your taking of the posters literally... it’s so funny.
You critique the whole thing based on a couple posters!

It’s your thread, if you want to provide links supporting your disdain for the program, go for it.
Right now your disdain is based solely on the posters, so we now see you don’t really like to understand something before you start bashing it!

[NomadPatriot]

You keep trying the same dumb tactic.

You’re the one who started this thread...I’ve not commented on the Pro’s or Con’s of the GND.

I’ve only commented on your taking of the posters literally... it’s so funny.
You critique the whole thing based on a couple posters!

It’s your thread, if you want to provide links supporting your disdain for the program, go for it.
Right now your disdain is based solely on the posters, so we now see you don’t really like to understand something before you start bashing it!

ok you have nothing.

like usual..

[jimboston]

You keep trying the same dumb tactic.

You’re the one who started this thread...I’ve not commented on the Pro’s or Con’s of the GND.

I’ve only commented on your taking of the posters literally... it’s so funny.
You critique the whole thing based on a couple posters!

It’s your thread, if you want to provide links supporting your disdain for the program, go for it.
Right now your disdain is based solely on the posters, so we now see you don’t really like to understand something before you start bashing it!

ok you have nothing.

like usual..

It’s a nothing thread that you created... like usual.

Why don’t you go analyze some more posters? See what other deep meanings you can read into them.