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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby s.xkitten on Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:57 pm

Iz Man wrote:Now go back to your Barbies and let the boys discuss this.
8)


So, I'm curious, do you make fun of everyone who doesn't want to have a particular job? Do you make fun of the people who don't want to be construction workers, or who don't want to be graphic designers? Being the military is a job, just like everything else. Just because someone doesn't want to fight for their country doesn't make them a coward. People have different reasons for not joining the military, and for not wanting to be part of the draft, just as people have different reasons for joining the military. Instead of calling them a coward, perhaps you should simply respect their choice.

Now, on the part of not supporting our troops, i don't agree with that. As I've posted before, you should always support your troops, even if you don't agree what they are fighting for. Its not their fault they are fighting for a war you don't believe in.

And another thing, the part about 'killing is necessary to be a man.' To me, thats just what you sound like. You are all like 'you have to be in the military, if you don't fight for your country, you are a coward.' The military kills people, thats part of a war. Some people don't want to do that, so they don't enlist. Then, you call them a coward for not enlisting. Kinda make more sense now?

Moving on, I didn't respond to your post last time because someone else did, and i agreed with everything they said, so i saw no reason to repeat it. Next time, i will, so that you know I'm not just skipping over you.

And last but not least, the only time i played with Barbies, i cut their hair, and ripped their bodies apart. :roll: Women can have discussions just as well as men can, just like they can serve in the military just as well as men can. I'm curious why you think otherwise, care to explain?
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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby DiM on Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:04 pm

Iz Man wrote:This simpleton (DIM) says he would 1) dodge the draft, 2) would not fight for his country, and 3) does not support our troops.
That's a coward.


first of all i bet you did not even look at my profile to see what country i'm in.

perhaps in my country the army is really sucky perhaps recruits are treated like crap perhaps the suicide rate among recruits is so high you would not belive. perhaps all the idiots and dumbasses have grades in the army and treat any person that has a higher iq like crap. and by that i mean constant beating and humiliation. perhaps the food the hygene and the overall conditions in the army are so crappy that many people get sick or suffer from malnutrition. perhaps the pay is so low you can barely afford to buy you daily pack of smokes. perhaps you'll change your opinion and stop calling me a coward.

think before you write something bad about another person. i invite you to come and join the army in romania if you want to prove your such a brave man.
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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby Stopper on Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:28 pm

s.xkitten wrote:
Iz Man wrote:Now go back to your Barbies and let the boys discuss this.
8)


So, I'm curious, do you make fun of everyone who doesn't want to have a particular job? Do you make fun of the people who don't want to be construction workers, or who don't want to be graphic designers? Being the military is a job, just like everything else. Just because someone doesn't want to fight for their country doesn't make them a coward. People have different reasons for not joining the military, and for not wanting to be part of the draft, just as people have different reasons for joining the military. Instead of calling them a coward, perhaps you should simply respect their choice.

Now, on the part of not supporting our troops, i don't agree with that. As I've posted before, you should always support your troops, even if you don't agree what they are fighting for. Its not their fault they are fighting for a war you don't believe in.

And another thing, the part about 'killing is necessary to be a man.' To me, thats just what you sound like. You are all like 'you have to be in the military, if you don't fight for your country, you are a coward.' The military kills people, thats part of a war. Some people don't want to do that, so they don't enlist. Then, you call them a coward for not enlisting. Kinda make more sense now?

Moving on, I didn't respond to your post last time because someone else did, and i agreed with everything they said, so i saw no reason to repeat it. Next time, i will, so that you know I'm not just skipping over you.

And last but not least, the only time i played with Barbies, i cut their hair, and ripped their bodies apart. :roll: Women can have discussions just as well as men can, just like they can serve in the military just as well as men can. I'm curious why you think otherwise, care to explain?


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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby Iz Man on Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:36 pm

DiM wrote:
Iz Man wrote:This simpleton (DIM) says he would 1) dodge the draft, 2) would not fight for his country, and 3) does not support our troops.
That's a coward.


first of all i bet you did not even look at my profile to see what country i'm in.

perhaps in my country the army is really sucky perhaps recruits are treated like crap perhaps the suicide rate among recruits is so high you would not belive. perhaps all the idiots and dumbasses have grades in the army and treat any person that has a higher iq like crap. and by that i mean constant beating and humiliation. perhaps the food the hygene and the overall conditions in the army are so crappy that many people get sick or suffer from malnutrition. perhaps the pay is so low you can barely afford to buy you daily pack of smokes. perhaps you'll change your opinion and stop calling me a coward.

think before you write something bad about another person. i invite you to come and join the army in romania if you want to prove your such a brave man.


First, you're right. I did not look to see you were from Romania, I assumed you lived in the U.S. An oversight on my part.
However, I did look and see that the Romanian army abolished conscription as a part of becoming a member of NATO. That means its an all volunteer Army.
You also stated that you would not fight for your own country, and that you do not support the volunteers who joined your military forces. That's just plain wrong.
If your country is that bad, I suggest you start walking; eventually you'll run into a place that you may find acceptable.
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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby Iz Man on Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:00 pm

s.xkitten wrote:So, I'm curious, do you make fun of everyone who doesn't want to have a particular job? Do you make fun of the people who don't want to be construction workers, or who don't want to be graphic designers? Being the military is a job, just like everything else. Just because someone doesn't want to fight for their country doesn't make them a coward. People have different reasons for not joining the military, and for not wanting to be part of the draft, just as people have different reasons for joining the military. Instead of calling them a coward, perhaps you should simply respect their choice.

Once again your making up stuff out of nowhere. I don't know where you're coming up with this construction worker crap. I never said if you don't serve in the military you're a coward. What I said was if you're not willing to fight when attacked you are. If you won't stand up for yourself or the defenseless then you are weak & a coward. I still stand by that.
s.xkitten wrote:And another thing, the part about 'killing is necessary to be a man.' To me, thats just what you sound like. You are all like 'you have to be in the military, if you don't fight for your country, you are a coward.' The military kills people, thats part of a war. Some people don't want to do that, so they don't enlist. Then, you call them a coward for not enlisting. Kinda make more sense now?

Once again, talking out your ass. I never said if you don't enlist, you're a coward. Can you not read English? Now, if you dodge the draft, then you are a coward. Whether you feel its the right thing or not. In the U.S. all able bodied men must sign up for conscription when they turn 18. Its the law. Sometimes it is necessary for the Nation to call upon its citizens to serve. It is the price for living in this country. Fortunately, we haven't had the need for a draft, nor will we in the foreseeable future. You don't like it? See ya.
s.xkitten wrote:...the only time i played with Barbies, i cut their hair, and ripped their bodies apart.

Why does that not surprise me. Your parents must be so proud.
s.xkitten wrote:Women can have discussions just as well as men can, just like they can serve in the military just as well as men can. I'm curious why you think otherwise, care to explain?

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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby s.xkitten on Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:01 pm

Stopper wrote:
s.xkitten wrote:
Iz Man wrote:Now go back to your Barbies and let the boys discuss this.
8)


So, I'm curious, do you make fun of everyone who doesn't want to have a particular job? Do you make fun of the people who don't want to be construction workers, or who don't want to be graphic designers? Being the military is a job, just like everything else. Just because someone doesn't want to fight for their country doesn't make them a coward. People have different reasons for not joining the military, and for not wanting to be part of the draft, just as people have different reasons for joining the military. Instead of calling them a coward, perhaps you should simply respect their choice.

Now, on the part of not supporting our troops, i don't agree with that. As I've posted before, you should always support your troops, even if you don't agree what they are fighting for. Its not their fault they are fighting for a war you don't believe in.

And another thing, the part about 'killing is necessary to be a man.' To me, thats just what you sound like. You are all like 'you have to be in the military, if you don't fight for your country, you are a coward.' The military kills people, thats part of a war. Some people don't want to do that, so they don't enlist. Then, you call them a coward for not enlisting. Kinda make more sense now?

Moving on, I didn't respond to your post last time because someone else did, and i agreed with everything they said, so i saw no reason to repeat it. Next time, i will, so that you know I'm not just skipping over you.

And last but not least, the only time i played with Barbies, i cut their hair, and ripped their bodies apart. :roll: Women can have discussions just as well as men can, just like they can serve in the military just as well as men can. I'm curious why you think otherwise, care to explain?


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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby s.xkitten on Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:22 pm

Iz Man wrote:
s.xkitten wrote:So, I'm curious, do you make fun of everyone who doesn't want to have a particular job? Do you make fun of the people who don't want to be construction workers, or who don't want to be graphic designers? Being the military is a job, just like everything else. Just because someone doesn't want to fight for their country doesn't make them a coward. People have different reasons for not joining the military, and for not wanting to be part of the draft, just as people have different reasons for joining the military. Instead of calling them a coward, perhaps you should simply respect their choice.

Once again your making up stuff out of nowhere. I don't know where you're coming up with this construction worker crap. I never said if you don't serve in the military you're a coward. What I said was if you're not willing to fight when attacked you are. If you won't stand up for yourself or the defenseless then you are weak & a coward. I still stand by that.


Iz Man wrote:This simpleton (DIM) says he would 1) dodge the draft, 2) would not fight for his country, and 3) does not support our troops.
That's a coward.

Umm...is this not saying that because he would not fight for his country, he is a coward. Whether by draft, or by choice, he does not want to fight for his country, which you say makes him a coward. Also, with the 'construction worker crap' i was pointing out that you were calling him a coward for not serving in the military, so do you call men that don't do traditionally masculine jobs (such as construction work) cowards also. Obviously, that was lost on you, but i didn't just make that up out of no where.
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s.xkitten wrote:And another thing, the part about 'killing is necessary to be a man.' To me, thats just what you sound like. You are all like 'you have to be in the military, if you don't fight for your country, you are a coward.' The military kills people, thats part of a war. Some people don't want to do that, so they don't enlist. Then, you call them a coward for not enlisting. Kinda make more sense now?

Once again, talking out your ass. I never said if you don't enlist, you're a coward. Can you not read English? Now, if you dodge the draft, then you are a coward. Whether you feel its the right thing or not. In the U.S. all able bodied men must sign up for conscription when they turn 18. Its the law. Sometimes it is necessary for the Nation to call upon its citizens to serve. It is the price for living in this country. Fortunately, we haven't had the need for a draft, nor will we in the foreseeable future. You don't like it? See ya.

Actually, they are predicting with the direction the war in Iraq is going, a draft will be needed in the next 5 years. But that isn't the point. The point is that if you refer to the quote above this, you said
Iz Man wrote: 2) would not fight for his country,
and then called him a coward. That usually means that you mean that because he would not fight for his country, he is a coward.

And, on a side note, I don't agree with the draft anyway. If you want to serve your country in that way, fine, thats great, I'll support you. But to force men to fight in a war when they may not want to is not right, no matter the cause.
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s.xkitten wrote:...the only time i played with Barbies, i cut their hair, and ripped their bodies apart.

Why does that not surprise me. Your parents must be so proud.


Nope, they were actually quite pissed. It was an expensive one.
Iz Man wrote:
s.xkitten wrote:Women can have discussions just as well as men can, just like they can serve in the military just as well as men can. I'm curious why you think otherwise, care to explain?

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Oh, I know you're probably one of those feminazis that think women can do everything a man can. Guess what, they can't. Just like men can't do everything women can. Women are better suited for some things that men aren't and vice versa. But that's another thread isn't it?


No way. I never knew that men and women are different. :roll:

Also, i never said that men and women can do the exact same thing. They can't. But, some women are well suited to traditionally masculine jobs, just as some men are more suited to traditionally feminine jobs. What right do you have to deny them the chance to have those jobs?
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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby reverend_kyle on Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:36 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
I believe that the number one way to support our troops right now is to send them home alive, and also to not irresponsibly get them stuck in wars where they are getting sent out to die in truckfuls






John Kerry? :roll:


So I from America have attained the same level of knowledge of what goes on in war from a Veteran? Is that suppposed to be an insult?
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Postby vtmarik on Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:06 pm

1: Do you believe in the war in Afghanistan?

In Afghanistan? Yes. Because we know that Osama bin Laden (you remember him, the guy who organized 9/11) is or at least was there.

2: Would you fight for your country?

I'd write for my country, I'd film for my country, hell I'd even have sex for my country, but I will not pick up a gun and kill another human being for my country.

Sorry if that makes me a coward, I'm just not that into killing real people.

Now, give me a PS2 controller, and I'll blow away all the virtual bad guys you want.

3: If there was a draft would you enlist, dodge, or take your chances?

My religious beliefs prohibit me from participating in such a program.

4: do you believe in a separation of church and state?

Yes.

5: Do you support your troops.

Absolutely.


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Postby s.xkitten on Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:10 pm

vtmarik wrote:2: Would you fight for your country?

I'd write for my country, I'd film for my country, hell I'd even have sex for my country, but I will not pick up a gun and kill another human being for my country.

Sorry if that makes me a coward, I'm just not that into killing real people.

Now, give me a PS2 controller, and I'll blow away all the virtual bad guys you want.


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Postby Dancing Mustard on Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:45 pm

1: Do you believe in the war in Afghanistan?
No, it is clearly made up and just a fairy-tale. I do not believe in Santa-Clause either. Or the Tooth-Fairy, which turned out to be my mother in a highly anti-climatic mishap at the age of 7.

2: Would you fight for your country?
Yes, if somebody looked at her funny in a bar.

3: If there was a draft would you enlist, dodge, or take your chances?
I'd probably just close the window, or pad the bottom of the door with a scarf, these other methods sound far too complicated. There's no point taking your chances with it though, if you're not careful you'll catch your death of cold; it's what took my poor grandmother, god rest her soul...

4: do you believe in a separation of church and state?
I've never had a steak in a church, so I guess I do.

5: Do you support your troops.
I reinforce them every turn, although I've never physically lifted them. I'd support them a whole lot better, but that no-good Radclirr keeps breaking my bonus in India, which is wasting valuable troops and cards which I ought to be using to pimp-cane Anarkistdream
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Postby Jehan on Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:18 pm

The Weird One wrote:
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reverend_kyle wrote:1: Do you believe in the war in Afghanistan?
2: Would you fight for your country?
3: If there was a draft would you enlist, dodge, or take your chances?
4: do you believe in a separation of church and state?
and
5: Do you support your troops.


here goes
1.Not American but i can see the justification for it when it started, it hasn't received the funding it needed to be truly effective.
2.Yes
3.Depends on why we are being drafted, i would take up arms to defend my countries soil, which i am sure is the only reason a draft would be employed anyway.
4.Yes, dont think the state should have anything to do with the church, church should be represented by the state to the extent that is necessary to represent that proportion of its constituency.
5. most certainly, who wouldn't?


I don't understand what you mean by the funding needed for the war in Afghanistan wasn't given. The justification for the war in Afghanistan may be there, but that in Iraq (which has had lots of funding [1 trillion dollars approximately])

not sure i get you, i was saying that because it hasnt got enough money to properly rebuild the country then the taliban and others can still prey on the social problems in the country and continue to fight, i think ive read somewhere and agree that if the funding given to the iraq war had been funneled into Afghanistan instead the war would have been more successful in obtaining its objectives.
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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby Beastly on Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:46 am

reverend_kyle wrote:
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reverend_kyle wrote:5: Do you support your troops.

this is my response

5: Yes, actually I do. My cousin was just shot in Iraq. Was sent to a hospital in Germany for the people with the most extreme and dangerous wounds of war. He was in pretty shitty shape, and after they got him fixed up and he did live through it they want to send him back a year later. Talk about crazy. I wouldn't be suprised if going back makes him go catatonic, but the government really could not give a damn. Many of them die in Iraq each year in a war against an idea which we can't actually fight and win. I believe that the number one way to support our troops right now is to send them home alive, and also to not irresponsibly get them stuck in wars where they are getting sent out to die in truckfuls. Right after my cousin got hurt they immediately gave him a purple heart, which you may say justifies it but in my mind all it does is make a point. They are sending purple hearts over in boatloads just because they know that there are lots of people getting hurt and that we aren't winning and they want to make sure that they can immediately give a purple heart to someone after they get hurt so that they wont realize that themselves.


I would like to know just how you support your troops? Just what do you do to support them? Just to say" Yes" I support them, does not mean you do so.



Thats why I posted the explanation..

or maybe this quote

I believe that the number one way to support our troops right now is to send them home alive, and also to not irresponsibly get them stuck in wars where they are getting sent out to die in truckfuls



but I forgot you aren't smart enough to read.



HEY look having a cousin in the military doesn't mean you Support them... I asked you a very simple question that you cannot answer... It is not my fault that you make yourself look stupid kyle.

and you are not in any position to send or retrieve troops....

So again I ask.. Just what do you do to support your troops?

I read your answer, from what I see, you do nothing.
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Postby Jehan on Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:57 am

what do you want him to do call an A-10 strike for them?
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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby reverend_kyle on Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:17 am

Beastly wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
Beastly wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:5: Do you support your troops.

this is my response

5: Yes, actually I do. My cousin was just shot in Iraq. Was sent to a hospital in Germany for the people with the most extreme and dangerous wounds of war. He was in pretty shitty shape, and after they got him fixed up and he did live through it they want to send him back a year later. Talk about crazy. I wouldn't be suprised if going back makes him go catatonic, but the government really could not give a damn. Many of them die in Iraq each year in a war against an idea which we can't actually fight and win. I believe that the number one way to support our troops right now is to send them home alive, and also to not irresponsibly get them stuck in wars where they are getting sent out to die in truckfuls. Right after my cousin got hurt they immediately gave him a purple heart, which you may say justifies it but in my mind all it does is make a point. They are sending purple hearts over in boatloads just because they know that there are lots of people getting hurt and that we aren't winning and they want to make sure that they can immediately give a purple heart to someone after they get hurt so that they wont realize that themselves.


I would like to know just how you support your troops? Just what do you do to support them? Just to say" Yes" I support them, does not mean you do so.



Thats why I posted the explanation..

or maybe this quote

I believe that the number one way to support our troops right now is to send them home alive, and also to not irresponsibly get them stuck in wars where they are getting sent out to die in truckfuls



but I forgot you aren't smart enough to read.



HEY look having a cousin in the military doesn't mean you Support them... I asked you a very simple question that you cannot answer... It is not my fault that you make yourself look stupid kyle.

and you are not in any position to send or retrieve troops....

So again I ask.. Just what do you do to support your troops?

I read your answer, from what I see, you do nothing.


did you read the specific part of the post I gave you that says it bluntly?

Or are you not smart enough to.



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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby DiM on Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:44 am

Iz Man wrote:
DiM wrote:
Iz Man wrote:This simpleton (DIM) says he would 1) dodge the draft, 2) would not fight for his country, and 3) does not support our troops.
That's a coward.


first of all i bet you did not even look at my profile to see what country i'm in.

perhaps in my country the army is really sucky perhaps recruits are treated like crap perhaps the suicide rate among recruits is so high you would not belive. perhaps all the idiots and dumbasses have grades in the army and treat any person that has a higher iq like crap. and by that i mean constant beating and humiliation. perhaps the food the hygene and the overall conditions in the army are so crappy that many people get sick or suffer from malnutrition. perhaps the pay is so low you can barely afford to buy you daily pack of smokes. perhaps you'll change your opinion and stop calling me a coward.

think before you write something bad about another person. i invite you to come and join the army in romania if you want to prove your such a brave man.


First, you're right. I did not look to see you were from Romania, I assumed you lived in the U.S. An oversight on my part.
However, I did look and see that the Romanian army abolished conscription as a part of becoming a member of NATO. That means its an all volunteer Army.
You also stated that you would not fight for your own country, and that you do not support the volunteers who joined your military forces. That's just plain wrong.
If your country is that bad, I suggest you start walking; eventually you'll run into a place that you may find acceptable.


yes it's an all volunteer army now. the last conscription was in september 2006 so 9 months ago. you would not belive the desperation of the autorities on the last conscription. even though i'm almost 26 and i'm still a student (2nd masters) even though each year i presented evidence i can't be enlisted because i'm a student, in the last september not only i had to bring the evidence from the university but the phoned at my house and even came at my door to try and take me.
at the moment the only people that go in the army are those that don't have any future like people without education, people that are so poor they can't afford a place to stay or something to eat.
that's why the army is such a crappy place especially for an intellectual. if for some reason you end up in the army and you fellow colleagues find out your a city boy, or a smart guy they'll make your life miserable just because they are frustrated idiots. that's why i don't support these volunteers. these so called heroes.
as for me not supporting my country, well this is a long story. really really long. when i live in a country where the government ass rapes the population and thrives on the misery of the masses it's kinda hard for me to take a rifle and die for my country. i'd rather take a rifle and die trying to shoot every piece of slime that rests it's fat ass on a chair in parliament. thieves imbeciles and ex communists that accumulated vast fortunes on the backs of the population.

yes my country is that bad. and each day more and more bright kids leave and go to live in other places places like usa or canada. i don't blame them they chose a better life for them and their loved ones. at the moment i'm trying my best to fight the system and make a decent living. and i'm doing ok so far. i'd probably have a far better life somewhere else in the world but at the moment i'll stay. if you can imagine my monthly wage is 350$. and i'm finishing my second masters. what would a guy like me earn in usa? i bet even the social welfare is more than 350$ per month in the usa
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Postby Anarchist on Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:36 am

Well said DiM,

Im curious as to why so many feel the need to blatantly insult those that dissagree with them? insecurity?

Let me state for the record that women are far superior at most things then men tend to be.

As for supporting the troops, I support everyone that says
"Screw you guys,Im going home"
I wish them a succesfull MIA

Jehan that is correct, The US sent less troops to Afghanistan then there are cops in New York.

Iz man wrote:In the U.S. all able bodied men must sign up for conscription when they turn 18. Its the law.
Oops :roll:
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Postby s.xkitten on Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:10 pm

Anarchist wrote:Well said DiM,

Im curious as to why so many feel the need to blatantly insult those that dissagree with them? insecurity?


I'm not sure why they do...Insecurity is probably a major factor...

Anarchist wrote:Let me state for the record that women are far superior at most things then men tend to be.


Hmm...i'm actually not sure i agree with that, but sure we are...:lol:

Anarchist wrote:As for supporting the troops, I support everyone that says
"Screw you guys,Im going home"
I wish them a succesfull MIA


So, i'm just kinda curious, why don't you support the ones that stay over there, and fight? I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything, i'm just curious the reasoning.

Anarchist wrote:
Iz man wrote:In the U.S. all able bodied men must sign up for conscription when they turn 18. Its the law.
Oops :roll:


Yep...most everyone in my school skipped it too... :wink:
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Postby Beastly on Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:13 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:I believe that the number one way to support our troops right now is to send them home alive, and also to not irresponsibly get them stuck in wars where they are getting sent out to die in truckfuls


Believing that our troops should come home is NOT supporting them.

Like i said before (obviously you aren't clearly reading my post) You have no power to bring them home or deploy them any where.

So again I ask... Just what do you do to support your troops?

You are doing nothing... so the real answer is no you don't support them.
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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby reverend_kyle on Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:23 pm

Beastly wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:I believe that the number one way to support our troops right now is to send them home alive, and also to not irresponsibly get them stuck in wars where they are getting sent out to die in truckfuls


Believing that our troops should come home is NOT supporting them.

Like i said before (obviously you aren't clearly reading my post) You have no power to bring them home or deploy them any where.

So again I ask... Just what do you do to support your troops?

You are doing nothing... so the real answer is no you don't support them.


Incorrect, I have written many letters to every congressman in my state plus a couple in other states asking for support on legislation towards bringing them home. Which is all I the average citizen can do. I am supporting my troops, in trying to keep them alive.

What have you done to support your troops?
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Postby Beastly on Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:27 pm

=D> =D> =D> =D>

Took you long enough to decide what you do to support your troops kyle.


I wanted to point out that so many people say they support the troops, when they actually don't take any action...


I don't want to sound like I toot my horn, when I feel that what i actually do isn't ever enough.

But if I was to list it would look like I was boasting. But what I can say is, I donate donate donate. They are in need of blankets. They also love Care packages.

http://anysoldier.com/

I want to encourage anybody who says they support the troops but take no action, to go find a outreach and find a way to actually do something. If we all donated 1 blanket..
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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby ritz627 on Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:31 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:
1: Do you believe in the war in Afghanistan?
2: Would you fight for your country?
3: If there was a draft would you enlist, dodge, or take your chances?
4: do you believe in a separation of church and state?
and
5: Do you support your troops.


1.) Yes, but not in Iraq. The war in Afghanistan was actually somewhat acted upon by correct motives.
2.) No, I would never risk my life for something as stupid as nationalism. But thats not to say I don't have respect for what our soldiers are doing. Now, if I actually believed in the cause, and If I didn't fight, countless people would die, I would have to say that it would be a consideration of mine..only if I was to join the airforce.
3.)Depends on if I believe in the war or not. But, most likely dodge (thats one thing me and GW have in common). Yes, ridicule me, I have no courage for my country.
4.)Yes
5.)I support my troops but not the war (Iraq) they are fighting. How can you not support people who are out there dying for what they feel is right. It is taking you opinions to the extreme. 'I may not agree with what they are doing, but I will defend to the death thier right to do it'. Frankly though, I find all of the 'support our troops' bumper stickers annoying, wrong, and misleading. Just how, by buying a magnetic bumper are you supporting the troops. I actually have a bumber sticker that has a yellow ribbon shaped as a question mark reading: 'War?'.
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Re: Let's talk some polygens.

Postby ritz627 on Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:38 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
I believe that the number one way to support our troops right now is to send them home alive, and also to not irresponsibly get them stuck in wars where they are getting sent out to die in truckfuls






John Kerry? :roll:


So I from America have attained the same level of knowledge of what goes on in war from a Veteran? Is that suppposed to be an insult?


Yea, I with RK on this one. Not only is bringing our troops home the best way to support them, but John Kerry knows a thing or two about war. Much more than all those in the White House currently.
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Postby Iz Man on Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:59 pm

vtmarik wrote:2: Would you fight for your country?

I'd write for my country, I'd film for my country, hell I'd even have sex for my country, but I will not pick up a gun and kill another human being for my country.

Sorry if that makes me a coward, I'm just not that into killing real people.

I'm curious. Is there no situation in which you would use deadly force to protect yourself or others? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just asking.
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Postby vtmarik on Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:16 pm

Iz Man wrote:I'm curious. Is there no situation in which you would use deadly force to protect yourself or others? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just asking.


Killing someone who points a gun directly at me and picking up a gun to go kill people voluntarily are two entirely different things.

Because I said men and women are different?


Allow me to quote you here:
Iz Man wrote:Oh, I know you're probably one of those feminazis that think women can do everything a man can.


Now, while biologically and anatomically this is true, in terms of ability or potential ability this statement is antequated and false. But here we come to the center of the shrubbery maze:

Iz Man wrote:I was wondering how long it would take for this to tangent into the B.S. policy of women serving alongside men in combat....



How is the freedom for a woman to suit up and fight alongside her fellow Americans BS in any way? I'm sorry, aren't we fighting against people who stop women from doing anything they want as equals to men (including fighting in the military)?
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