1991 Obama: Becoming Donald Trump is the American Dream

by **NomadPatriot** on Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:57 pm

As a Harvard Law Student, Barack Obama Said Becoming Donald Trump Was The American Dream

In 1991, Obama, a 29-year-old soon-to-be Harvard Law School grad, wrote a paper with a friend, Robert Fisher, called “Race and Rights Rhetoric.” Obama summed up the average American’s mindset with the following sentence: "I may not be Donald Trump now, but just you wait; if I don't make it, my children will."

https://www.complex.com/life/2017/05/harvard-law-student-barack-obama-becoming-donald-trump-american-dream

by **riskllama** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:12 am

only one deferment, two failed marriages & 6 bankruptcy filings to go!!!

:lol:

by **NomadPatriot** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:46 am

riskllama wrote:only one deferment, two failed marriages & 6 bankruptcy filings to go!!!

in 2004 trump went into debt for $1.8 billion .. he dug himself out of that debt hole then stacked another $4 billion worth of profit on top of that..

name anyone who has accomplished the same ..

I will take Trump over some Coke head who dropped over 25,000 bombs on Muslims any day of the week

by **riskllama** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:12 am

NomadPatriot wrote:only idiots go into debt

sound familiar, NP?

by **mookiemcgee** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:54 am

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-trump-american-dream/

by **jimboston** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:59 am

mookiemcgee wrote:https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-trump-american-dream/

Another example of NP using parts of a quote completely out of context and changing their meaning entirely.
(Or in this case linking an article that does the work for him.)

One might think he’s some sort of genius right wing baiter.

However his other posts have proven he’s a sad angry little man, and his tactics are easily refuted.

So he’s no genius... is this case he’s just parroting bullshit messages from other Right Wing mouthpieces.

Next NP post includes...
*Personal insult with no evidence.
*A claim denying that the quote is real and denying context matters.
*Additional misquotes/mischaracterizations of my past posts, using bad logic, and claims that I haven’t refuted said claims.

by **NomadPatriot** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:23 am

riskllama wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:only idiots go into debt

sound familiar, NP?

sure does.. I am glad you keep a PC file of my quotes ….
Trump was an idiot for going into debt. . pretty sure he will tell you the same thing about the subject.. he did some idiotic things..
he got himself out of it.. and today is a billionaire..

by **NomadPatriot** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:41 am

oh man.. Jimmy Butts sure isn't triggered or anything...

sure am glad he is talking about the 'topic of the day'..

june 18th 2019:

jimboston wrote:It’s unfortunate that this place has degenerated this far. There was always baiting and insults... but a few years ago there seemed to be a few more people willing and interested in trying to actually discuss some of the topics of the day. Sad..

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jimboston wrote:he’s a sad angry little man

a few moments later...
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jimboston wrote:Next NP post includes...*Personal insult

by **jonesthecurl** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:32 am

The invocation of Donald Trump’s name was not, as implied by headlines, used to provide an example of the “American Dream,” but rather an example of the “unfounded optimism of the average American”

by **NomadPatriot** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:05 am

jonesthecurl wrote:
The invocation of Donald Trump’s name was not, as implied by headlines, used to provide an example of the “American Dream,” but rather an example of the “unfounded optimism of the average American”

The American Dream is a national ethos of the United States, the set of ideals (democracy, rights, liberty, opportunity and equality) in which freedom includes the opportunity for prosperity and success, as well as an upward social mobility for the family and children, achieved through hard work in a society with few barriers.

by **jimboston** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:54 am

NomadPatriot wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
The invocation of Donald Trump’s name was not, as implied by headlines, used to provide an example of the “American Dream,” but rather an example of the “unfounded optimism of the average American”

The American Dream is a national ethos of the United States, the set of ideals (democracy, rights, liberty, opportunity and equality) in which freedom includes the opportunity for prosperity and success, as well as an upward social mobility for the family and children, achieved through hard work in a society with few barriers.

You choose to ignore the word ‘unfounded’ thereby changing the meaning of the quote.

We know you’re an ass... but you continue to demonstrate you’re also an idiot.

You somehow think you’re ‘triggering’ me.
I’m pretty hard to ‘trigger’ virtually... I let it go as soon as I type it.

I’m from Boston, if you wanna trigger me cut me off in traffic, or worse drive slow.

All you comments do is...
1) Prove your idiocy.
2) Make me feel sad about the long term prospects of human race.

by **NomadPatriot** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:46 pm

jimmy Butts is definitely not triggered..

by **NomadPatriot** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:59 pm

Jimmy is Capable.. ...

Jun 19, 2019 11:54 am

jimboston wrote:We know you’re an ass... but you continue to demonstrate you’re also an idiot.

Jun 18, 2019 7:30 am

jimboston wrote:you’re a Racist Homophobe, with an Ugly Little Soul.

Jun 18, 2019 8:43 am

jimboston wrote:but I’m capable of criticizing his political views without resorting to use of cheap images and personal attacks. Wouldn’t your points be better made without personal attacks on the man?.

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=230660&p=5106295&view=show#p5106295

by **jimboston** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:06 pm

You’re personally attacking the former President of this great nation... a nation you purport to love.

I’m not attacking any president.

I’m attacking you.

There’s a difference.

... and it’s not really a personal attack if i’m just pointing out your obvious biases and flaws.

I got the truth on my side baby.

by **mookiemcgee** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:13 pm

Wouldn't it be more fun to debate a troll who wasn't so bad at it Jimbo? I guess that's what happens when membership gets this low, even the trolls are pretty impotent.

by **HitRed** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:29 pm

Jimbo, did you return to CC to argue endlessly?

by **jimboston** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:47 pm

HitRed wrote:Jimbo, did you return to CC to argue endlessly?

I contributed to the recipe thread... but then that degenerated into something else.

Obviously i’m Bored and have too much time on my hands.
It’s been raining a lot and so i’m Not spending as much time doing yard work as I otherwise would this time of year.

I mean he thinks he’s “triggering’ me... whatever that is.
It’s not like I’m actually getting annoyed IRL... I just can’t believe the stooped shit he’s spewing.

I’ll probably get tired of this dumb ass time wasting ‘game’ and disappear again.

Like I said before, it’s too bad because there used to be more intelligent ‘banter’... even if we did debate and bait and insult, it at least had more substance.

by **jimboston** on Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:48 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:Wouldn't it be more fun to debate a troll who wasn't so bad at it Jimbo? I guess that's what happens when membership gets this low, even the trolls are pretty impotent.

Where’s Saxi when we need him?