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Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby NomadPatriot on Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:14 am

Oakland in California legalizes magic mushrooms and peyote

"Advocates argued that naturally-occurring drugs such as mushrooms and cacti have been used by various cultures for hundreds of years for everything from spiritual quests to helping battle psychiatric imbalances such as post-traumatic stress syndrome. They say legalizing mushrooms would free law enforcement to tackle higher-priority issues."

do you know what else is a naturally occurring drug...? --> Heroin & Cocaine, they are just refined into powders... so just give them 1 more year on those..

don't complain California when some lunatic tripping her balls off goes driving down the sidewalk running people over because she thinks she is playing Pac-Man

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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby armati on Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:23 am

Dont cry when someone drives high?
Like alcohol? or texting?

There have been advocates for years now saying all drugs should be legal.
Its a medical issue not a criminal issue.

Thing is, there has been so much money in illegal drugs such as the cia bringing in heroin,coke etc that its been too profitable to decriminalize.

US Troops Protecting Opium/Heroin in Afghanistan
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:37 am

NomadPatriot wrote:Oakland in California legalizes magic mushrooms and peyote

"Advocates argued that naturally-occurring drugs such as mushrooms and cacti have been used by various cultures for hundreds of years for everything from spiritual quests to helping battle psychiatric imbalances such as post-traumatic stress syndrome. They say legalizing mushrooms would free law enforcement to tackle higher-priority issues."

do you know what else is a naturally occurring drug...? --> Heroin & Cocaine, they are just refined into powders... so just give them 1 more year on those..

don't complain California when some lunatic tripping her balls off goes driving down the sidewalk running people over because she thinks she is playing Pac-Man

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If a fukn deranged rightwing fascist can buy and carry guns, why not let people ingest what they want.

It's fukn FREEDOM from government telling us what we can or can not do!

Fuk off you fascists!
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby riskllama on Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:45 am

relax, NP - pretty sure operating a motor vehicle under the influence of the aforementioned substances will still be a crime...;).
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby NomadPatriot on Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:48 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:If a fukn deranged rightwing fascist can buy and carry guns, why not let people ingest what they want.It's fukn FREEDOM from government telling us what we can or can not do!Fuk off you fascists!


if you cannot comprehend the difference between carrying a gun for protection of yourself & the people around you & eating a hallucinogenic that would make you think the 4 year old girl standing next to you at the grocery store is a zombie getting ready to eat your leg.. there is no hope for you Bernie..
screaming Fascist every time some posts something you do not agree with is just showing you inability to debate anything logically..

but you just contradicted yourself anyways..
you want the government to say it's ok to legalize drugs.. then you call it fascist when the government tells you can do it.. freedom from a government your advocating for..
your advocating to let the fascist government say it's ok to do drugs..
you just openly admitted you are a fascist..
good job..

so by saying you want to be free from a government that tells the people what they can or cannot do.. you are saying you do not want laws againist .. Pedophilia, or hate crimes , or incest, or rape, or spouse abuse or sex trafficking of minors.. . you want all of those things to be free for the people to do.....
otherwise it's --> FASCISM!!!!
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby NomadPatriot on Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:55 am

riskllama wrote:relax, NP - pretty sure operating a motor vehicle under the influence of the aforementioned substances will still be a crime....

because drunk drivers follow the laws daily... & people never text & drive.. both of those are crimes as well.. only difference is when your tripping on Peyote or Mushrooms.. reality is not something you can grasp..
been there , done those drugs.. they should not be legal..
big difference between being drunk & tripping your balls off..
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby armati on Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:26 pm

lol

The best shrooms are fresh, imo anyway.

Once a year my ex and I would go pick all day and eat all night.

Really a dum high, when you really are experiencing mushrooms, the only thing you can talk about is mushrooms, you know thats all you can talk about and you might try to talk about something else and its hilarious you cant.
The belly splitting laffs go on all night, geez is your stomach soar the next day.

If ya get a hallucination, guess what, its a mushroom. lol Thats the way to do mushrooms, fresh.

Now dried is a dif thing, sure you might get a reaction you could call high, you might even think their good, lottsa people think so, but it doesnt compare to fresh.

Last thing you want to do, is go picking at the beginning of the season and eat one in the field, you wont get out until the end of the season.

And no, you dont want to drive on dried or fresh shrooms.

Peyote, I never got the chance, from watching the movie "young guns" I wish I had.

1 other thing about shrooms, ya wanna pick around airport fields, not cow fields, ya get Strychnine from cow fields, their still good but ya get a stomach ache in not a good way like from laffing. Remember to flick then pick.
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:25 pm

This is all fake news, no city has the right to legalize a federally banned substance.

All Oakland can do is instruct police not to enforce laws regarding to possession, and decline to prosecute those cases that come before city courts. The sale of these substances will still be prosecuted.

Anyone in Oakland that drives high on mushrooms are still breaking all sorts of city,state and federal laws and will be fully prosecuted.

But Nomad already knows this, he's just being willfully ignorant. He purposely uses quotes from "advocates" rather than those actually within the gov't who write, sign, enforce laws.



There was an attempt recently (2018) to get a state level decriminalization (not legalization) of Psilocybin onto the state ballot. It failed miserably because there is virtually no will among the larger CA population to decriminalize it. They would need over 20 million votes to legalize, and they didn't even get 300,000 people to sign the petition to get it in front of voters. Democracy is working!


Also, armati... You foraging for wild mushrooms so you can get you high... it explains alot about you.
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:31 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:
riskllama wrote:relax, NP - pretty sure operating a motor vehicle under the influence of the aforementioned substances will still be a crime....

because drunk drivers follow the laws daily... & people never text & drive.. both of those are crimes as well.. only difference is when your tripping on Peyote or Mushrooms.. reality is not something you can grasp..
been there , done those drugs.. they should not be legal..
big difference between being drunk & tripping your balls off..


Because people only buy guys to protect themselves and hunt. they never use them for killing children at schools, or shooting up houses of worship.. both of those are crimes as well

Could you at least try to stay consistent on the arguments you make? It's almost laughable that you can't apply the same standard twice in a thread.

Sorry if you can't restrain yourself from getting in a car and driving when you get high on mushrooms. Most people don't have that reaction to mushrooms(needing to drive), just like most people don't go killing a bunch of people as soon as they get a gun.
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby armati on Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:28 pm

munkee

you know zero about me and less about mushrooms.
You dont forage for magic mushrooms, you simply pick them.
Explains alot about your opinions.

Your "democracy is working" comment kinda shows you dont realize democracy is 2 wolves and 1 sheep discussing what to have for dinner.
But sure, it works.
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby NomadPatriot on Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:06 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:This is all fake news, no city has the right to legalize a federally banned substance.


marijuana is a federally banned substance genius... cities & states have already done that...
so der..


but I guess Forbes is lying --> Oakland Is Second U.S. City To Legalize Magic Mushrooms

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2019/06/05/oakland-legalizes-magic-mushrooms-second-us-city-to-do-so/#55dddd4365c2

Oakland’s City Council unanimously approved a ballot measure on Tuesday effectively decriminalizing the possession or use of psilocybin, popularly known as magic mushrooms, in the process becoming the first city in California and the second in the country to legalize the substance. ...The resolution states that the investigation and prosecution of individuals possessing the drug would be of lowest priority for police.

mookiemcgee wrote:Sorry if you can't restrain yourself from getting in a car and driving when you get high on mushrooms


if your tripping balls on mushrooms.. who knows what you are seeing .. you could be plowing people down on a sidewalk.. but in your brain your riding a big purple dragon trying to catch a unicorn...
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby jimboston on Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:23 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:
do you know what else is a naturally occurring drug...? --> Heroin & Cocaine, they are just refined into powders... so just give them 1 more year on those..


The problem is the fact it’s refined.

If people chewed coca, leaves the way native Americans did before the Europeans came, they wouldn’t be so addictive and damaging.
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby NomadPatriot on Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:13 pm

jimboston wrote:The problem is the fact it’s refined.

Cannabidiol Oil is refined marijuana extract.. it is now legal to use in some states..
so what's the difference from that to refining coca or poppy into cocaine & heroin ......?
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:23 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:This is all fake news, no city has the right to legalize a federally banned substance.


marijuana is a federally banned substance genius... cities & states have already done that...
so der..


but I guess Forbes is lying --> Oakland Is Second U.S. City To Legalize Magic Mushrooms

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2019/06/05/oakland-legalizes-magic-mushrooms-second-us-city-to-do-so/#55dddd4365c2

Oakland’s City Council unanimously approved a ballot measure on Tuesday effectively decriminalizing the possession or use of psilocybin, popularly known as magic mushrooms, in the process becoming the first city in California and the second in the country to legalize the substance. ...The resolution states that the investigation and prosecution of individuals possessing the drug would be of lowest priority for police.

mookiemcgee wrote:Sorry if you can't restrain yourself from getting in a car and driving when you get high on mushrooms


if your tripping balls on mushrooms.. who knows what you are seeing .. you could be plowing people down on a sidewalk.. but in your brain your riding a big purple dragon trying to catch a unicorn...


I can see you have never done Mushrooms. STFU you fascists.
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby HitRed on Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:36 pm

i see the kids going to child protective services.
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby NomadPatriot on Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:32 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:I can see you have never done Mushrooms. STFU you fascists.


yeah .. ok I need to argue with you over the drugs I have done in my life .. and the effects I know they have on the body..

let's listen to the guy who supports the government when they tell us what we can do.. then calls that same government Fascist when they tell us something we cannot do..

Bernie supports a fascist government when it's something he likes..
when he likes as he describes it - the "fascist government's" decisions.. he licks that shit clean.. and defends it 100 percent
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby jimboston on Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:01 am

NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:The problem is the fact it’s refined.

Cannabidiol Oil is refined marijuana extract.. it is now legal to use in some states..
so what's the difference from that to refining coca or poppy into cocaine & heroin ......?


Nothing from a technical perspective.

Cannabinol Oil is more potent than marijuana and has more potential for abuse then standard / natural marijuana.

There are differences in the drugs themselves, but that’s not the question you asked.

The LEVEL of refinement is also a factor.

Moonshine and beer both contain alcohol... but hard liquors are more potent and potentially more dangerous.
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby NomadPatriot on Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:29 am

jimboston wrote:Nothing from a technical perspective.Cannabinol Oil is more potent than marijuana and has more potential for abuse then standard / natural marijuana.There are differences in the drugs themselves, but that’s not the question you asked.The LEVEL of refinement is also a factor.Moonshine and beer both contain alcohol... but hard liquors are more potent and potentially more dangerous.


the constant contrarian...…

if you do not understand that when someone says 'refined' they are entailing it is a cleaner / improved version of the former substance with a higher dosage then your dumb..

Cannabinol Oil is refined Marijuana extract. thus is a higher dosage of that chemical compound
Cocaine is a refined coca extract, thus is a higher dosage of that drug
Heroin is a refined Poppy extract, thus is a higher dosage...again of that drug

Moonshine is not refined beer extract.. alcohol is not a naturally occurring substance genius.. you cannot get drunk eating Hops or grapes or whatever else a particular type of alcohol is made from..
it has to be.. MADE into alcohol

WHY AM I STILL REPSONDING TO YOUR IDIOCRACY!!!
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby jimboston on Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:32 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:Nothing from a technical perspective.Cannabinol Oil is more potent than marijuana and has more potential for abuse then standard / natural marijuana.There are differences in the drugs themselves, but that’s not the question you asked.The LEVEL of refinement is also a factor.Moonshine and beer both contain alcohol... but hard liquors are more potent and potentially more dangerous.


the constant contrarian...…

if you do not understand that when someone says 'refined' they are entailing it is a cleaner / improved version of the former substance with a higher dosage then your dumb..

Cannabinol Oil is refined Marijuana extract. thus is a higher dosage of that chemical compound
Cocaine is a refined coca extract, thus is a higher dosage of that drug
Heroin is a refined Poppy extract, thus is a higher dosage...again of that drug

Moonshine is not refined beer extract.. alcohol is not a naturally occurring substance genius.. you cannot get drunk eating Hops or grapes or whatever else a particular type of alcohol is made from..
it has to be.. MADE into alcohol

WHY AM I STILL REPSONDING TO YOUR IDIOCRACY!!!


I see you don’t understand how analogies work.
No wonder why you have a hard time grasping new concepts.
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby jimboston on Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:36 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:IDIOCRACY!!!


Not a real word.

If you’re one of those “malleable language” types that believe language changes super-fast then maybe this is a word... in which case you’re using it incorrectly.
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Postby NomadPatriot on Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:40 pm

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I see Jimmy Butts is screaming whatever his Contrarian lunacy is again..
sorry, you get ignored for now on..
no attention for you
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Postby what,me worry? on Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:18 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:don't complain California when some lunatic tripping her balls off goes driving down the sidewalk running people over because she thinks she is playing Pac-Man

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Right here is why you're dumb

People already consume these and no one is playing pacman on the streets with their car

What we're saying is, gee...wouldn't it be nice to have less people in correctional facilities for the victimless "crime" (now not crime) of consuming plants?
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby NomadPatriot on Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:52 pm

what,me worry? wrote:Right here is why you're dumbPeople already consume these and no one is playing pacman on the streets with their carWhat we're saying is, gee...wouldn't it be nice to have less people in correctional facilities for the victimless "crime" (now not crime) of consuming plants?


no clue if anyone is playing pac-man tripping on shrooms currently.. it's a metaphor for your brain not being able to comprehend what is going on..
but I guess you would make the same argument for Alcohol...
"wouldn't it be nice to have less people in correctional facilities for the victimless "crime" (now not crime) of consuming Liquids "

because drunk driving doesn't ever hurt anyone..... right..?
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Re: Oakland California legalizes Shrooms & Peyote

Postby what,me worry? on Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:42 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:
what,me worry? wrote:Right here is why you're dumbPeople already consume these and no one is playing pacman on the streets with their carWhat we're saying is, gee...wouldn't it be nice to have less people in correctional facilities for the victimless "crime" (now not crime) of consuming plants?


no clue if anyone is playing pac-man tripping on shrooms currently.. it's a metaphor for your brain not being able to comprehend what is going on..
but I guess you would make the same argument for Alcohol...
"wouldn't it be nice to have less people in correctional facilities for the victimless "crime" (now not crime) of consuming Liquids "

because drunk driving doesn't ever hurt anyone..... right..?


You've missed the point and thrown a strawman

To answer your question: we can make society safer and give people greater access to treatment or being open about their issues with a legal substance

As soon as something is illegal, it becomes a moral issue which is asinine

I've done both mescaline and psilocybin. Both are non-addictive and but should also be treated with respect. The same community safety standards should be applied to legal substances

This is helpful because:

1. It reduces the instances of the community becoming "criminals", therefore helping the economy and social structure
2. It let's people come out from the shadows to discuss their use which is overall helpful
3. Police resources can be used elsewhere like, DUI check points or meth house busts
4. Society is overall safer
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