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Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:32 pm

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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby armati on Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:08 pm

I think its hilarious some people see Russia as manipulating the states.

A good way to keep people eyes off aipac, American Israel Public Affairs Committee and Israel.

Heck didnt congress/senators just sign loyalty pledges to Israel?

If americans had any clue they would hang them all for treason.

Course thats nothing new, a few american generals and admirals have said as much a few times.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby waauw on Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:44 pm

armati wrote:I think its hilarious some people see Russia as manipulating the states.


Why is that so astonishing? Powerful empires have been doing it for centuries. The only thing that is new is that they use social media now instead of newspapers, magazines, pamphlets and critics/rebels. During WWI Germany (in)famously sponsored Lenin's ticket to St-Petersburg so he could launch his revolution. It's an age-old trick. I don't see why anybody ought to be surprised it's still in practice.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:51 pm

waauw wrote:
armati wrote:I think its hilarious some people see Russia as manipulating the states.


Why is that so astonishing? Powerful empires have been doing it for centuries. The only thing that is new is that they use social media now instead of newspapers, magazines, pamphlets and critics/rebels. During WWI Germany (in)famously sponsored Lenin's ticket to St-Petersburg so he could launch his revolution. It's an age-old trick. I don't see why anybody ought to be surprised it's still in practice.


The reason it is astonishing is because the GDP of Manhattan island alone is greater than the GDP of Russia. I'd be more worried about New York Jews (I know armati already is) than about Russian meddling. That doesn't mean that Russians are remotely human in any sense of the world. They are still enemies, but if you care about election meddling, you need to follow the money. I don't care about election meddling, I'm just sayin'.

For every Russian oligarch, there's a person who owns a building in Manhattan.

I think people fail to realize just how spectacularly rich the United States is. There are more 300 dollar burgers sold on East 60th Street in a year than there are people in Belgium.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby waauw on Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:09 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
waauw wrote:
armati wrote:I think its hilarious some people see Russia as manipulating the states.


Why is that so astonishing? Powerful empires have been doing it for centuries. The only thing that is new is that they use social media now instead of newspapers, magazines, pamphlets and critics/rebels. During WWI Germany (in)famously sponsored Lenin's ticket to St-Petersburg so he could launch his revolution. It's an age-old trick. I don't see why anybody ought to be surprised it's still in practice.


The reason it is astonishing is because the GDP of Manhattan island alone is greater than the GDP of Russia. I'd be more worried about New York Jews (I know armati already is) than about Russian meddling. That doesn't mean that Russians are remotely human in any sense of the world. They are still enemies, but if you care about election meddling, you need to follow the money. I don't care about election meddling, I'm just sayin'.

For every Russian oligarch, there's a person who owns a building in Manhattan.

I think people fail to realize just how spectacularly rich the United States is. There are more 300 dollar burgers sold on East 60th Street in a year than there are people in Belgium.


I must say, you make a fair point.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby armati on Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:12 pm

DoomYoshi

Your saying Im concerned with NY Jews, thats entirely wrong. They are not Zionists.
There are different Jews, just as there are dif Christians and Moslems.

Israeli leaders scared of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad meeting NYC Jews
https://youtu.be/bCw-oWp1wf8

Iran does not want to "wipe out" Israel, Iran opposes the Zionists, it is Zionists that dominate aipac.
Thats propaganda to the max.

It is the Zionist that demand loyalty oaths from american senators etc.

NY Jews would oppose those oaths as they are americans and understand Zionism and what its doing.

"Russians are remotely human in any sense of the world." this is an odd thing to say about a nation that has the goal of feeding the world with out using chemicals.(monsanto,round up etc)

I think you are believing your media.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:45 pm

armati wrote:DoomYoshi

Your saying Im concerned with NY Jews, thats entirely wrong. They are not Zionists.
There are different Jews, just as there are dif Christians and Moslems.

Israeli leaders scared of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad meeting NYC Jews
https://youtu.be/bCw-oWp1wf8

Iran does not want to "wipe out" Israel, Iran opposes the Zionists, it is Zionists that dominate aipac.
Thats propaganda to the max.

It is the Zionist that demand loyalty oaths from american senators etc.

NY Jews would oppose those oaths as they are americans and understand Zionism and what its doing.

"Russians are remotely human in any sense of the world." this is an odd thing to say about a nation that has the goal of feeding the world with out using chemicals.(monsanto,round up etc)

I think you are believing your media.


Russia has always been the land of barbarians. From the Huns to the Mongols, nothing good has ever come out of Russia. All they do is destroy and that is all they have ever done. A bunch of father-rapers and litterbugs, if you ask me.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby 2dimes on Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:50 pm

What about the Lada?
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:54 pm

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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby armati on Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:04 pm

Thats funny.

Russia supported the north in the war between the states, sent the navy to NY at one point.
They beat everyones favorite, the nazis.

Their space craft shuttle the rest of us to the international space station, maybe the west will catch up tho.

Recently they clobbered isis in Syria which noone else could do and now they are preventing an american invasion of Venezuela.

They have the most advanced fighter aircraft in the world,the best armor, the best anti aircraft weapons, torpedoes that travel at 180 knots, submarines that cant be spotted and hypersonic nukes, and they built it all for a fraction of what the americans spend.

They also have the most popular leader in the world.

They invented the catapillar drive,electric rail, vidiotape recorders,radio,helecopters,solar cells,transformers,television(debuted in the states),Petrol cracking,Synthetic rubber,Grain harvester just to mention a few things.

Oh ya, they produce good hockey players too. :D definitely worth a mention.

But ya, they're bums, cause were #!. rah rah rah :lol:

Those are neat "puck" pictures tho.
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Postby mookiemcgee on Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:16 pm

armati wrote:Thats funny.

Russia supported the north in the war between the states, sent the navy to NY at one point.
They beat everyones favorite, the nazis.

Their space craft shuttle the rest of us to the international space station, maybe the west will catch up tho.

Recently they clobbered isis in Syria which noone else could do and now they are preventing an american invasion of Venezuela.

They have the most advanced fighter aircraft in the world,the best armor, the best anti aircraft weapons, torpedoes that travel at 180 knots, submarines that cant be spotted and hypersonic nukes, and they built it all for a fraction of what the americans spend.

They also have the most popular leader in the world.

They invented the catapillar drive,electric rail, vidiotape recorders,radio,helecopters,solar cells,transformers,television(debuted in the states),Petrol cracking,Synthetic rubber,Grain harvester just to mention a few things.

Oh ya, they produce good hockey players too. :D definitely worth a mention.

But ya, they're bums, cause were #!. rah rah rah :lol:

Those are neat "puck" pictures tho.


I think you are believing your media now. Does it hurt having Putin's dick so far up your ass it's speaking out of your mouth?
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:43 pm

armati wrote:But ya, they're bums, cause were #!. rah rah rah :lol:


No, it comes from many memoirs, corroborated by historical evidence, of the people who have escaped Russian tyranny for 2000 years.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby armati on Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:04 pm

:lol: =D> :lol:

munkee shows he's a genius yet again and Yoshi? 2000 yrs? :lol:

Well, i guess there might have been christians in that part of the world 2000 years ago.

The history of Russia begins with that of the East Slavs and the Finno-Ugric peoples. The traditional beginning of Russian history is the establishment of Kievan Rus', the first united Eastern Slavic state, in 882.

Kinda shows people how credible you are.

You have 2000 years of memoirs do you? :lol:
Maybe check your corroborated historical evidence.

Classic believe as you are told lemmings.

A clue for ya, when ya think like everyone else....your not thinking.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby 2dimes on Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:19 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
armati wrote:But ya, they're bums, cause were #!. rah rah rah :lol:


No, it comes from many memoirs, corroborated by historical evidence, of the people who have escaped Russian tyranny for 2000 years.

How many drove away in a Lada?
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby riskllama on Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:59 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
armati wrote:But ya, they're bums, cause were #!. rah rah rah :lol:


No, it comes from many memoirs, corroborated by historical evidence, of the people who have escaped Russian tyranny for 2000 years.


don't be an idiot, DY - you can't slag off an entire nation for the actions of its' rulers. also, pretty sure Russia wasn't a thing in 19 AD. this is almost as bad as you referring to Muslims as, what was it? ''not people"? c'mon, dude... :?
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby waauw on Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:18 am

armati wrote:Their space craft shuttle the rest of us to the international space station, maybe the west will catch up tho.

Recently they clobbered isis in Syria which noone else could do and now they are preventing an american invasion of Venezuela.

They have the most advanced fighter aircraft in the world,the best armor, the best anti aircraft weapons, torpedoes that travel at 180 knots, submarines that cant be spotted and hypersonic nukes, and they built it all for a fraction of what the americans spend.

They also have the most popular leader in the world.


  • The only reason the west uses Russian Soyuz to shuttle to the ISS is because the Russians are dirt cheap.
  • You have no hard evidence that the USA was going to invade Venezuela.
  • It's not because the Russians claim they have the most sophisticated military technologies, that they actually have them. When it comes to military tech, ordinary people like us can do nothing but guess. The americans are notorious for keeping their military tech secret. The blackbird wasn't introduced to the world until decades after it was developed.
  • Putin isn't the most popular leader in the world. According to a recent study Merkel, Macron and Xi Jinping are all three trusted more than Putin.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby mrswdk on Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:39 am

waauw wrote:
armati wrote:Their space craft shuttle the rest of us to the international space station, maybe the west will catch up tho.

Recently they clobbered isis in Syria which noone else could do and now they are preventing an american invasion of Venezuela.

They have the most advanced fighter aircraft in the world,the best armor, the best anti aircraft weapons, torpedoes that travel at 180 knots, submarines that cant be spotted and hypersonic nukes, and they built it all for a fraction of what the americans spend.

They also have the most popular leader in the world.


  • The only reason the west uses Russian Soyuz to shuttle to the ISS is because the Russians are dirt cheap.


Actually it's because they don't have any of their own. The US stopped running its own space shuttle flights after a series of high-profile calamities (such as the disintegration of Columbia) showed the world that getting on a US space travel is about as safe as getting on a Boeing.

Currently if you want to get to the space station, your only option is Russian.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:44 am

riskllama wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
armati wrote:But ya, they're bums, cause were #!. rah rah rah :lol:


No, it comes from many memoirs, corroborated by historical evidence, of the people who have escaped Russian tyranny for 2000 years.


don't be an idiot, DY - you can't slag off an entire nation for the actions of its' rulers. also, pretty sure Russia wasn't a thing in 19 AD. this is almost as bad as you referring to Muslims as, what was it? ''not people"? c'mon, dude... :?


Llama, unless you demonize and dehumanize your opponents you will lose the battle of life. You can pretend everyone gets along and shake each other's dicks at the trough urinal, but unless you assume everyone is out to get you, they will see your kindness and take advantage of it. That's why it's best to assume that everyone overseas is Kim Jong Un or worse.

armati wrote::lol: =D> :lol:

munkee shows he's a genius yet again and Yoshi? 2000 yrs? :lol:

Well, i guess there might have been christians in that part of the world 2000 years ago.


What does Christianity have to do with it? The Chinese have dozens of words for barbarians, and almost all of them refer to Russians.

The history of Russia begins with that of the East Slavs and the Finno-Ugric peoples. The traditional beginning of Russian history is the establishment of Kievan Rus', the first united Eastern Slavic state, in 882.


Kostyonki has "anatomically correct" humans dated to 40 000 years ago. Even then they were cannibals who systematically murdered every single Wooly Mammoth in Eurasia. The original genocide.

Classic believe as you are told lemmings.

A clue for ya, when ya think like everyone else....your not thinking.


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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby mrswdk on Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:29 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Russia has always been the land of barbarians. From the Huns to the Mongols, nothing good has ever come out of Russia.


You forgot the Imperial Japanese Army.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby HitRed on Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:48 am

DoomYoshi wrote:That's why it's best to assume that everyone overseas is Kim Jong Un or worse.


Bob Cratchit should have off'd his boss.
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby armati on Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:15 am

After re reading I might have been a bit harsh, not incorrect but I could have said it better.


Waauw

The only reason the west uses Russian Soyuz to shuttle to the ISS is because the Russians are dirt cheap.........mrswdk has explained.

You have no hard evidence that the USA was going to invade Venezuela........There is overwhelming evidence the americans are attacking Venezuela...when Trump or Bolton whoever it was said "all options on the table" the Russians moved in to prevent an invasion.
All you had to do to see it was follow what was happening.
The main take away...the americans are not f#cking around with the Russians. Same as in Syria.

It's not because the Russians claim they have the most sophisticated military technologies, that they actually have them. When it comes to military tech, ordinary people like us can do nothing but guess.
The americans are notorious for keeping their military tech secret. The blackbird wasn't introduced to the world until decades after it was developed...............good point, thats 100% true, thing is Putin announced their tech to the world a couple months ago, american generals have said they are behind the Russians with no defense of them and they are losing ground to the Chinese.(if you know anything of fighter aircraft, u tube the su 35)

Putin isn't the most popular leader in the world. According to a recent study Merkel, Macron and Xi Jinping are all three trusted more than Putin.........I beg to differ, check the yellow vest protest in France, Merkel is unpopular as hell for opening up German boarders. the Chinese people know better than to criticize Xi, that doesnt make him popular but ya gotta admit, they have been awesome for their people for decades now.

I checked and saw where you got the most popular leader info................they are nuts. What a pile of horsesh#t.

I do notice that Putins popularity has gone down in Russia tho, so maybe Im behind the times on that one.
Actually I cant believe his popularity has dropped so much.
Who operates google anyway? ;)
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Re: Franco-Russian Relations: An American View c. 1898

Postby armati on Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:39 am

DY
You said you had 2000 yrs of memoirs, thats why I mentioned the christians, I was wrong tho, the division of Chritianity didnt happen until after the Council of Nicaea, (325).

"It's classic, name a single person who actually thinks like me."..........Decent come back.

You mention people 40,000 years ago, rene noorbergen, Secrets of the lost races, he talks about a human skull found that is 250,000 years old, from the Siberian region, pretty big area but I forget exactly where, years since I read it.
There is another book by a woman archeologist, I forget her name tho, anyway, she found a human skull 250,000 years old in south america.

Those wolly mamoth tusks, huge export to China, the Chinese luv ivory.
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