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Re: Trump recognizes US-backed head of Venezuela’s oppositio

Postby armati on Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:04 pm

I was thinking the coups in Iran,ukraine,honduras,panama,philipines,uraguay,panama,peru,nicaragua,guatamala,
el salvado,costa rica,chile,brazil,argentina. They were all the sneaky nobody heard about it kind.
Theres more but Im not remembering them all and I dont wanna look em up right now.

Smedly butler wrote the book "war is a racket" when he retired, head of the u.s. marines.
john perkins wrote confessions of an economic hitman, same story just a little after butlers time.

Lybia and Iraq wernt really coups, they were more along the lines of invasions.
More like granada.


When buying the leadership or destroying the economy doesnt work and they cant assassinate, they do a coup, if thats not an option, its invasion.

Seems to be their MO.
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Re: Trump recognizes US-backed head of Venezuela’s oppositio

Postby mookiemcgee on Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:48 pm

armati wrote:I was thinking the coups in Iran,ukraine,honduras,panama,philipines,uraguay,panama,peru,nicaragua,guatamala,
el salvado,costa rica,chile,brazil,argentina. They were all the sneaky nobody heard about it kind.
Theres more but Im not remembering them all and I dont wanna look em up right now.

Smedly butler wrote the book "war is a racket" when he retired, head of the u.s. marines.
john perkins wrote confessions of an economic hitman, same story just a little after butlers time.

Lybia and Iraq wernt really coups, they were more along the lines of invasions.
More like granada.


When buying the leadership or destroying the economy doesnt work and they cant assassinate, they do a coup, if thats not an option, its invasion.

Seems to be their MO.


If your examples were all done in the dark of night and kept as secrets... Then how come you and I and a whole bunch of other people know about them? The 'Ukrainian coup' as you call it was fairly recent and was in the worlds news almost every day. Not much of a secret, unless of course you only get your news from Russian sources like RT. Then I suppose they would like to make it seem like a secret coup by the USA.
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Re: Trump recognizes US-backed head of Venezuela’s oppositio

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:04 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
armati wrote:I was thinking the coups in Iran,ukraine,honduras,panama,philipines,uraguay,panama,peru,nicaragua,guatamala,
el salvado,costa rica,chile,brazil,argentina. They were all the sneaky nobody heard about it kind.
Theres more but Im not remembering them all and I dont wanna look em up right now.

Smedly butler wrote the book "war is a racket" when he retired, head of the u.s. marines.
john perkins wrote confessions of an economic hitman, same story just a little after butlers time.

Lybia and Iraq wernt really coups, they were more along the lines of invasions.
More like granada.


When buying the leadership or destroying the economy doesnt work and they cant assassinate, they do a coup, if thats not an option, its invasion.

Seems to be their MO.


If your examples were all done in the dark of night and kept as secrets... Then how come you and I and a whole bunch of other people know about them? The 'Ukrainian coup' as you call it was fairly recent and was in the worlds news almost every day. Not much of a secret, unless of course you only get your news from Russian sources like RT. Then I suppose they would like to make it seem like a secret coup by the USA.


In fairness, while the events in the Ukraine were not secret, the fact that the CIA organised it was emphatically denied by the US. Every effort was made to make the coup look like a home-grown democratic movement.
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Re: Trump recognizes US-backed head of Venezuela’s oppositio

Postby armati on Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:42 pm

Are you telling me the american people were informed that Poroshenko was a coup?

Interesting, here in Canada we were told it was a revolution, the Maidan revolution.

Actually, I have never heard the western media use the word coup for anything the americans do.

An interesting thing about that "revolution" was the Azov battalion, Nazi sympathies and usage of associated symbols by the regiment itself, as seen in their logo featuring the Wolfsangel, one of the original symbols used by the German Nazi party.
(why wasnt netenyahoo here screaming nazi nazi nazi at them?) as you suggest, the americans were fully informed.)

I kinda think its funny you guys see RT, obvious propaganda, and not what the most decorated U.S. marine general at the time says.
Was he a Russian spy?
Probly, and Perkins, all those years with the cia, obvious spy.

Horrible detectives.
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Re: Trump recognizes US-backed head of Venezuela’s oppositio

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:02 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
armati wrote:I was thinking the coups in Iran,ukraine,honduras,panama,philipines,uraguay,panama,peru,nicaragua,guatamala,
el salvado,costa rica,chile,brazil,argentina. They were all the sneaky nobody heard about it kind.
Theres more but Im not remembering them all and I dont wanna look em up right now.

Smedly butler wrote the book "war is a racket" when he retired, head of the u.s. marines.
john perkins wrote confessions of an economic hitman, same story just a little after butlers time.

Lybia and Iraq wernt really coups, they were more along the lines of invasions.
More like granada.


When buying the leadership or destroying the economy doesnt work and they cant assassinate, they do a coup, if thats not an option, its invasion.

Seems to be their MO.


If your examples were all done in the dark of night and kept as secrets... Then how come you and I and a whole bunch of other people know about them? The 'Ukrainian coup' as you call it was fairly recent and was in the worlds news almost every day. Not much of a secret, unless of course you only get your news from Russian sources like RT. Then I suppose they would like to make it seem like a secret coup by the USA.


In fairness, while the events in the Ukraine were not secret, the fact that the CIA organised it was emphatically denied by the US. Every effort was made to make the coup look like a home-grown democratic movement.


Yes but the CIA always denies everything it's part of their mandate. And i mean... is the CIA actively calling what they are doing in Venezuela a CIA led coup? Is the western media calling it a CIA led coup? NO, but we all know just what the f*ck this is don't we? How it this any different from Ukraine? Just cus trump went on record as recognizing a new leader? Sure reminds me of this headline:

World News
June 4, 2014 / 3:48 AM / 5 years ago
Obama gives backing to Ukraine's new president

Frankly if you want to say there is a difference in Venezuela it's that the western media is less on board to cheer-lead than it usually is.
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Re: Trump recognizes US-backed head of Venezuela’s oppositio

Postby HitRed on Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:30 pm

Why is the media less on board? Don't they want a Trump invasion?
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Re: Trump recognizes US-backed head of Venezuela’s oppositio

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:16 pm

HitRed wrote:Why is the media less on board? Don't they want a Trump invasion?


I don't know, and I'm not even saying they aren't on board to a degree... but just comparing the two headlines the Ven one seems a little hedged. They are still calling it the opposition rather than calling horsefaceman the new president.

Trump recognizes US-backed head of Venezuela’s opposition

Obama gives backing to Ukraine's new president
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Re: Trump recognizes US-backed head of Venezuela’s oppositio

Postby armati on Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:20 pm

I agree with the Venezuela action is a little hedged.

My guess is it has to do with Russia and China, they both have significant investments in Venezuela.
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