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Which is most patriarchal?

A man paying for a woman on their first date (implies ownership of the woman)
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33%
The woman paying for the man (man is expecting her to be subservient to him)
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33%
Splitting the bill (man is censoring inequality by refusing to even acknowledge it might exist)
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33%
 
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Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:39 pm

People benefit differently based on the current structure of society, so depending on who we're spending time with, it shouldn't be expected for both parties to pay equal amounts.

Women, on average, earn less than men. Canadian women, on average, earn C$0.69 for every dollar a man makes at work.

First dates are one small opportunity to recognise that people in society have different access to resources. If we want to be good company and good partners, challenging power imbalances is an important part of every relationship.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-46164568
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:46 pm

We already knew you have to pay for your dates....:P
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby HitRed on Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:20 pm

I'll up you one. A married women should have a small bank account only in her name. Leaving a bad marriage takes guts and cash.

With kids it's 100x harder.
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:45 pm

HitRed wrote:I'll up you one. A married women should have a small bank account only in her name. Leaving a bad marriage takes guts and cash.


What about a married man?
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby HitRed on Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:09 pm

mrswdk wrote:
HitRed wrote:I'll up you one. A married women should have a small bank account only in her name. Leaving a bad marriage takes guts and cash.


What about a married man?


Best to avoid them.
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Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:13 pm

I only go to dinner with people who earn more than i do and then demand they pay for it. Practicing my socialism.
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby riskllama on Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:42 pm

if i ask a woman out for dinner & whatever, i go in fully expecting to pay for the entire evening's activities. can't recall atm if i've ever been asked out to dinner, but drinks for sure and they all paid. so, i think it falls whomever is doing the asking. is that old fashioned?
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby HitRed on Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:19 pm

My best friend was cheep. asked a girl out in high school and went "Dutch" so she paid half. Then bragged about saving the money during school lunch! His mom found out a few days later and nearly skinned him alive. that was his final date in HS. Couldn't imagine why. :roll:
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby karel on Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:43 pm

both should take turns,i dont pay for dinner everytime,no biggie
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby mrswdk on Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:25 am

riskllama wrote:if i ask a woman out for dinner & whatever, i go in fully expecting to pay for the entire evening's activities.


I think you misunderstood what I meant by 'date'.
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby riskllama on Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:19 pm

mrswdk wrote:
riskllama wrote:if i ask a woman out for dinner & whatever, i go in fully expecting to pay for the entire evening's activities.


I think you misunderstood what I meant by 'date'.


i'm surprised it took someone this long to make this comment. CC really ain't what she used to be... :(
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby tzor on Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:02 pm

Oh please. Unless you are talking about ME, this is a total pile of manure.

The pay gap is over the entire population and is based on the fact that most women (like that person who is currently portraying Dr. Who) do not spend continual time in the work force, taking time out on multiple occasions to have children. Continual longevity is the key element in the pay gap.

The average people coming right of college generally have similar wages.

The article, on the other hand, talks about how the lifestyle of women is more expensive than that of men. But that's typical of you to make an argument and use an article that says something completely different.

But a gentleman should always pay for the first date because he is a gentleman. Of course there are circumstances where the rules change.
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby KoolBak on Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:21 pm

Bingo.
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AND:
riskllama wrote:Koolbak wins this thread.
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby warmonger1981 on Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:20 am

I wonder how the study dictated that these people were all considering themselves males or female.I wonder how the non binary people feel. I'm sure those people get paid way less than both males and females. So screw this thread of gender bias. :lol:
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Re: Gender pay gap means men should pay for first dates

Postby tzor on Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:54 am

warmonger1981 wrote:I wonder how the study dictated that these people were all considering themselves males or female.


Remember the whole article mostly concentrated on cost of living. These come in two factors; biological and cultural but the article centers on the cultural.

Expectations around women's appearances and behaviour have material and personal costs. Women's physical appearances are held to impossibly high standards and a routine subject of ridicule everywhere from the entertainment industry to The White House.


And this is where it breaks down. The question can break down into cultural and even social divisions. I think the real problem is that HER lifestyle, which is a component of her choices, where she lives. It's also a question about how she views the spending choices of others.
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