More fodder for you liberals.....

by **MeDeFe** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:31 am

imo the best patriot is a finger-pointing whistle-blower. Not someone who says yes and amen to everything "their" government throws at them.

by **vtmarik** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:47 am

MeDeFe wrote:imo the best patriot is a finger-pointing whistle-blower. Not someone who says yes and amen to everything "their" government throws at them.

I believe Franklin, Jefferson, and Washington would agree.

by **heavycola** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:34 am

MeDeFe wrote:imo the best patriot is a finger-pointing whistle-blower. Not someone who says yes and amen to everything "their" government throws at them.

well said

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:54 am

imo the best patriot is the guy or gal who doesn't take every oppertunity available to rip their country. It is the person who loves their country in spite of its flaws. Disagreeing with govornment is one thing but a reasonless burning hatred for your President is another.

by **MeDeFe** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:24 pm

Then it's too bad those people often don't love it enough to be willing to deal with the flaws that are there.

by **heavycola** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:21 pm

yes jay, disagreeing with the current US adminstration is a "reasonless, burning hatred" :roll:

And why do you paint people who don't buy into your particular brand of flag-waving jingoism as hating their own country?

by **vtmarik** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:32 pm

heavycola wrote:yes jay, disagreeing with the current US adminstration is a "reasonless, burning hatred"

And why do you paint people who don't buy into your particular brand of flag-waving jingoism as hating their own country?

I think your question answers itself. If you don't have a flag on your door and you don't hate the islamofascists (which is the wrong term, they're more zealots than fascists. Fascists tend to shy away from religion, it just complicates things) then you're evil. I remember once when my Chemistry teacher told me that if I didn't want to stand for the pledge that I should "just pack up and leave the country."

Funny, because that's how our enemy would react.

Here's another question Jay, where was your burning passion and love for this nation before 9/11?

by **ksslemp** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:20 pm

vtmarik wrote:
heavycola wrote:yes jay, disagreeing with the current US adminstration is a "reasonless, burning hatred"

And why do you paint people who don't buy into your particular brand of flag-waving jingoism as hating their own country?

I think your question answers itself. If you don't have a flag on your door and you don't hate the islamofascists (which is the wrong term, they're more zealots than fascists. Fascists tend to shy away from religion, it just complicates things) then you're evil. I remember once when my Chemistry teacher told me that if I didn't want to stand for the pledge that I should "just pack up and leave the country."

Funny, because that's how our enemy would react.

Here's another question Jay, where was your burning passion and love for this nation before 9/11?

Its one thing to watch your government to make sure it works for the people, it's another to spread dissent only for dissents sake!

Your teacher was right! You want to enjoy what this country has to offer and provide nothing in return but criticism. I know it's really too much to ask to pledge support to the country that has given you more opportunities than anywhere else on earth! Always a contrarian right! geez the nerve of America asking something so DIFFICULT from its Citizens! You're Pathetic.

As to the 9/11 comment, We were'nt at war before that! Go buy some critical thinking skills!

by **qeee1** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:22 pm

Here's another question Jay, where was your burning passion and love for this nation before 9/11?

ksslemp wrote:As to the 9/11 comment, We were'nt at war before that!

*needs no further comment*

by **Backglass** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:23 pm

ksslemp wrote:I see NO Error in our ways!

Right.....everything is just going along SOOOO well isnt it! What a fine master plan King George had. Oh wait...thats right he had no plan.

Tell me why Rumsfeld is out again? Because of the ERROR-FREE job he did? :lol:

ksslemp wrote:Wer'e just adapting our stategies to meet the changing threats

Translation = We f**ked up the first time....and the second. Third times a charm!

ksslemp wrote:You're apparently too full of yourself to see the threat facing the world!

Funny...I didnt know that IRAQ was a threat to the entire world! :roll:

Again my broken record rant. We were attacked by Osama Bin Laden and Al Quada. I live in NY. I smelled the dust. I knew people in the WTC. I want THOSE WHO ACTUALLY ATTACKED US brought to justice. (Hint: They arent in Iraq)

ksslemp wrote:You should seriously think about moving to Venezuela where you'll be among friends!

Actually one of my best friends IS from Caracas. And no, I wouldnt want to live there. Unlike you, I have actually BEEN to Venezuela several times as well as 15 other countries. I do not have red, white & blue blinders on when it come to the real world. You should leave your trailer more and actually VISIT another country or two and talk to the people living there.

ksslemp wrote:America needs patriots not finger-pointing cowards like you!

Ahhh...the well known republican "patriot card" gets pulled out. If you cant argue like a real man, please give up like jay. The real patriot is the one who challenges government and questions the choices made...just as our forfathers did. You better get used to it old-timer...you are in the minority now due to the complete screw-up that is Iraq.

You, on the other hand choose to follow blindly down the path of the dumbest man ever to hold our highest office. What America NEEDS is a new President...quickly.

ksslemp wrote:Yes i'm Volunteering! but I'm too old D*ckhead! If they would have me, i'd be there in a second.

Of course...it's always easier to send your neighbors kids off to battle isnt it. :roll:

And yes...you are too old.

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:38 pm

Backglass wrote:Of course...it's always easier to send your neighbors kids off to battle isnt it. And yes...you are too old.

And it's even easier to be anti-war so noone will ever ask you to join combat. Get off the "you better enlist if you support the war" crap. Its just soooooo hypicritical comming from the anti-war crowd. It the "safe" way to be..... against all war. Sadly the WWII generation was the last of its kind. We have a bunch af whinning, sniveling cowards now.

by **mightyal** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:07 pm

jay_a2j wrote:imo the best patriot is the guy or gal who doesn't take every oppertunity available to rip their country. It is the person who loves their country in spite of its flaws. Disagreeing with govornment is one thing but a reasonless burning hatred for your President is another.

I have a feeling your opinion will change when Hilary rules.

by **ksslemp** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:12 pm

mightyal wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:imo the best patriot is the guy or gal who doesn't take every oppertunity available to rip their country. It is the person who loves their country in spite of its flaws. Disagreeing with govornment is one thing but a reasonless burning hatred for your President is another.
I have a feeling your opinion will change when Hilary rules.

Thankfully this theory will never be tested!

by **Backglass** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:01 pm

jay_a2j wrote:And it's even easier to be anti-war so noone will ever ask you to join combat.

I am not anti-war. I am anti-iraq...which isnt even a war according to King George. It's just a silly little "conflict".

jay_a2j wrote:Get off the "you better enlist if you support the war" crap. Its just soooooo hypicritical comming from the anti-war crowd.

When will you learn that putting words into others mouths makes baby jesus cry?

I never said such things or spoke of such sentiments. In fact, it was your comrade ksslemp who alluded to such. Please learn to comprehend writing that doesnt have "Thou" in it please. :roll:

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:04 pm

Skittlesandmnms wrote:
are you volunteering to go fight?

if no, then STFU

I wasn't refeing to you backglass! Contrary to your belief the world does not revolve around you. Does every post I post have to be about YOU?

by **Skittlesandmnms** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:44 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Skittlesandmnms wrote:
are you volunteering to go fight?

if no, then STFU

I wasn't refeing to you backglass! Contrary to your belief the world does not revolve around you. Does every post I post have to be about YOU?

i didnt say it was about ME. it was about YOU. and the fact that you are pro war, and unwilling to fight. personelly, as soon as i get out of highschool, im going to flight school to become a pilot. US air force.

by **Backglass** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:52 pm

jay_a2j wrote:I wasn't refeing to you backglass! Contrary to your belief the world does not revolve around you. Does every post I post have to be about YOU?

Um...because you quoted me?

Jay. Please learn to use your computer and this forum so that those that DO, know who you are talking to.

jay_a2j wrote:
Backglass wrote:Of course...it's always easier to send your neighbors kids off to battle isnt it. And yes...you are too old.

Get off the "you better enlist if you support the war" crap. Its just soooooo hypicritical comming from the anti-war crowd. It the "safe" way to be..... against all war. Sadly the WWII generation was the last of its kind. We have a bunch af whinning, sniveling cowards now.

Who else WERE you talking to then? Hmmm? :roll:

Perhaps this man can help you:

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:54 pm

Backglass wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:I wasn't refeing to you backglass! Contrary to your belief the world does not revolve around you. Does every post I post have to be about YOU?

Um...because you quoted me?

Jay. Please learn to use your computer and this forum so that those that DO, know who you are talking to.

jay_a2j wrote:
Backglass wrote:Of course...it's always easier to send your neighbors kids off to battle isnt it. And yes...you are too old.

Get off the "you better enlist if you support the war" crap. Its just soooooo hypicritical comming from the anti-war crowd. It the "safe" way to be..... against all war. Sadly the WWII generation was the last of its kind. We have a bunch af whinning, sniveling cowards now.

Who else WERE you talking to then? Hmmm?

Perhaps this man can help you:

Oh! In that case I was talking to YOU and skuttlebutt.

by **Backglass** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:05 pm

jay_a2j wrote:Oh! In that case I was talking to YOU and skuttlebutt.

You are embarrasing yourself again jay...better go have a smoke and calm down. :lol:

by **Skittlesandmnms** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:05 pm

jay_a2j wrote:

Oh! In that case I was talking to YOU and skuttlebutt.

am i skuttlebutt?

its actually scuttlebutt by the way.

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:41 pm

Backglass wrote:
Of course...it's always easier to send your neighbors kids off to battle isnt it. And yes...you are too old.

Are you playing stupid or is it for real? Read your posts man! They speak for themselves. The above quote by YOU blatantly implies "If you support the war then you should join the military". It is getting extreamly tiresome talking to you backglass. :roll:

by **heavycola** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:42 pm

mightyal wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:imo the best patriot is the guy or gal who doesn't take every oppertunity available to rip their country. It is the person who loves their country in spite of its flaws. Disagreeing with govornment is one thing but a reasonless burning hatred for your President is another.
I have a feeling your opinion will change when Hilary rules.

I would like to thank Al for this insight and only hope i am alive and still as sadly obsessed with online risk when this happens