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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby Thorthoth on Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:46 pm

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Thorthoth wrote:So the only way we know what happened at night is by players saying what they did, whether they actually did it or not?


That's the whole point of this game. Trust or don't trust, say right or wrong, say true or not... btw I don't like the newbie card you're playing.

But it really is my first game. =(
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby Samlen on Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:07 pm

@thor You have to weigh the weight of your role versus the weight of your information when revealing your action. For example: If the cop found a town-sided player night one, they would likely not want to reveal(yet) since the risk of them dying to scum is not worth clearing one player. On that note, I didn't learn anything useful last night. I

think it's more likely that the scum kill was prevented by a roleblocker or the jailing of caff since doc save requires two actions to hit same target instead of just one. We can debate about the merits about jailing caff again, but mafia can usually choose who carries out the nightkill, making it unlikely that jailing him (if he's mafia) will do anything. It'll be a bit harder to figure out who to lynch considering no death but caff being jailed or a different person being roleblocked are our best bets (barring any wonky roles).
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:34 pm

Sure, let's jail me again and (a) watch someone else die (since if I was mafia, you would also presume someone else would just lead the kill like Samlen said) or (b) jail me again and watch mafia no kill and I get framed and you make a huge mistake.

Or, y'know, people could stop being stupid and we could actually hunt for the mafia. Those were afk most of D1 are seemingly still afk.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:35 pm

That isn't to say I'm pushing on afk players, but more that from my understanding chat limits are usually limited to a day and so therefore they should be even keener to get involved than the rest of us. Correct me if I'm wrong. Currently I have strike as a townread and that's about it. Ragian leaning town too probably.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby HotShot53 on Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:50 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:That isn't to say I'm pushing on afk players, but more that from my understanding chat limits are usually limited to a day and so therefore they should be even keener to get involved than the rest of us. Correct me if I'm wrong. Currently I have strike as a townread and that's about it. Ragian leaning town too probably.


Although there is a chance you are a jailed scum, what you are saying here is true... so I will continue from yesterday and vote fircoal since he still hasn't posted in this game yet really.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:35 pm

I will poke Fircoal.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby dakky21 on Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:28 pm

DirtyDishSoap wrote:I will poke Fircoal.


Tailgunner as well, last post 9 days ago.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby madmitch on Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:24 am

@ Sam are you soft claiming a cop role ? @ Caff if you would quit being so jittery on duty maybe yo won't be jailed, oh wait that might be the coffee :lol: :lol: actually it is to early to point fingers at some one, not enough info yet.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby Ragian on Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:10 am

Well, there's no reason to write off the obvious. There was no nk, and caff was jailed. But if we give you the benefit of the doubt, caff, whom would you target if you were to scumhunt, then?
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby benga on Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:47 am

and why are you the likely target?
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:03 am

I'd assume I was targeted because I give off a lot of confidence etc. in general, but those that don't know me very well (most people playing) could read that as the confidence of a power role.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby lord voldemort on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:28 am

i think the caf and the jail keep is a back burner thing...if anything i wish that stayed quiet. jailkeep is a pretty powerful role.

id rather focus on the inactive lurkers, namely fircoal at this stage.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby benga on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:39 am

i do believe caff is godfather so it's a good trade
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:40 am

How do you determine that so specifically? Godfather is mafia that appears innocent on cop reports. Apart from the fact I'm town, there has also been no cop report.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:43 am

madmitch wrote:@ Sam are you soft claiming a cop role ? @ Caff if you would quit being so jittery on duty maybe yo won't be jailed, oh wait that might be the coffee :lol: :lol: actually it is to early to point fingers at some one, not enough info yet.


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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby benga on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:47 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:How do you determine that so specifically? Godfather is mafia that appears innocent on cop reports. Apart from the fact I'm town, there has also been no cop report.


only GF can be so confident
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:57 am

I'm not wasting my time on an idiot like you until you start actually forming decent arguments. That's probably your worst post of this game so far.

1. You know my normal persona is confident.

2. I already addressed this earlier, so you're clearly either (a) not paying attention to what's being said or (b) don't care. Neither situation is great.

3. "Only GF can be so confident" is literally retarded. By your reasoning, Godfathers would always be confident, but then that would give them away so maybe they wouldn't be so confident.

Try and come at me again when you actually have some logic. Dealing with your poorly thought out reads and posts is annoying me and that doesn't help me figure out who's actually scum and, more importantly right now, who's 3rd party.

I'm actually wondering if you're 3rd party.. your logic is falling apart and you're pushing with very little on me. You know 3rd party is the biggest threat to my town right now I'd assume. Hm. Just food for thought I suppose.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby Thorthoth on Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:05 am

Just stopping by to be present and involved...

Is there any consensus on anything yet?
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby Minister Masket on Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:14 am

benga wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:How do you determine that so specifically? Godfather is mafia that appears innocent on cop reports. Apart from the fact I'm town, there has also been no cop report.


only GF can be so confident


On the contrary, I feel like I only won as Godfather in Lion King mafia because I played that game so understated....ly.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:23 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:Sure, let's jail me again and (a) watch someone else die (since if I was mafia, you would also presume someone else would just lead the kill like Samlen said) or (b) jail me again and watch mafia no kill and I get framed and you make a huge mistake.

Or, y'know, people could stop being stupid and we could actually hunt for the mafia. Those were afk most of D1 are seemingly still afk.


Someone else is likely to die anyway. As far as numbers go, we're ahead, but whether that's due to the block or save on you I'm unsure. Your rebuttals have been aggressive, but i don't have a meta for you. My own rebuttals have been aggressive in the past.

Minister Masket wrote:I don't often play with (or use when modding) third parties or cults, so I reckon this would be a good stage to speculating exactly what goals they have in mind. If anything a general overview of what they tend to get up to would be of benefit to our newer players.

Interesting that people are still voting Tailsr Caffeine when the scum are seen as the lesser threat right now.

I'll hold off on that vote for now, because I have a risky plan in mind. Benga, are ye willing to jail Caffeine again tonight to see if another night kill can be stopped? I don't often see this crop up in mafia, but it's debatable whether a hamstrung anti-town player is more useful than a dead one.

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Noo....not asking benga to do anything. Just a penny for his thoughts.


Very curious post here. FOS on MM.

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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:24 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Sure, let's jail me again and (a) watch someone else die (since if I was mafia, you would also presume someone else would just lead the kill like Samlen said) or (b) jail me again and watch mafia no kill and I get framed and you make a huge mistake.

Or, y'know, people could stop being stupid and we could actually hunt for the mafia. Those were afk most of D1 are seemingly still afk.


Someone else is likely to die anyway. As far as numbers go, we're ahead, but whether that's due to the block or save on you I'm unsure. Your rebuttals have been aggressive, but i don't have a meta for you. My own rebuttals have been aggressive in the past.

Minister Masket wrote:I don't often play with (or use when modding) third parties or cults, so I reckon this would be a good stage to speculating exactly what goals they have in mind. If anything a general overview of what they tend to get up to would be of benefit to our newer players.

Interesting that people are still voting Tailsr Caffeine when the scum are seen as the lesser threat right now.

I'll hold off on that vote for now, because I have a risky plan in mind. Benga, are ye willing to jail Caffeine again tonight to see if another night kill can be stopped? I don't often see this crop up in mafia, but it's debatable whether a hamstrung anti-town player is more useful than a dead one.

"HURRR DURRR Vote MM for trying to get town to spill night actions"
- Some Pleb potentially a few posts from now

Noo....not asking benga to do anything. Just a penny for his thoughts.


Very curious post here. FOS on MM.

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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:39 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Sure, let's jail me again and (a) watch someone else die (since if I was mafia, you would also presume someone else would just lead the kill like Samlen said) or (b) jail me again and watch mafia no kill and I get framed and you make a huge mistake.

Or, y'know, people could stop being stupid and we could actually hunt for the mafia. Those were afk most of D1 are seemingly still afk.


Someone else is likely to die anyway. As far as numbers go, we're ahead, but whether that's due to the block or save on you I'm unsure. Your rebuttals have been aggressive, but i don't have a meta for you. My own rebuttals have been aggressive in the past.

You should know well enough that I'm an aggressive person.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby benga on Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:15 pm

Being aggressive is another trait of gf
With all nonsense coming out of your mouth, I still haven't heard you say why you are pro town
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby dakky21 on Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:02 pm

benga wrote:Being aggressive is another trait of gf
With all nonsense coming out of your mouth, I still haven't heard you say why you are pro town


So if he is cop, he should claim so the scum can kill him? I don't get your logic either benga.

One thing which bothers me... is that Jail-keeper can be of any alignment, so your claim maybe also isn't pro town and maybe you're sided with Caff, playing good cop bad cop strategy so he can claim something and then you've cleared you both as town... I don't like it.
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Re: Mass Effect 1 - D2 Something ancient...

Postby madmitch on Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:32 pm

dakky21 wrote:
benga wrote:Being aggressive is another trait of gf
With all nonsense coming out of your mouth, I still haven't heard you say why you are pro town


So if he is cop, he should claim so the scum can kill him? I don't get your logic either benga.

One thing which bothers me... is that Jail-keeper can be of any alignment, so your claim maybe also isn't pro town and maybe you're sided with Caff, playing good cop bad cop strategy so he can claim something and then you've cleared you both as town... I don't like it.

You are might be on to something Dakky, Benga saying he jailed Caff would put a target on himself,scum would probably get rid of anyone that has that power unless Benga is lying.@ Doom have no good picks at this time, what do you think?
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