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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby 2dimes on Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:59 pm

tzor wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:guns don't kill people, cops kill people

Guns don't kill people ... bullets kill people.

Guns don't kill people, pandemics caused by anti-vaxxers kill people.
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby ConfederateSS on Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:39 am

-------A nice Kennedy,Nixon and King piece Duk....But you forgot...When the 3 kids were killed in Mississippi...Nixon didn't go to Mississippi because he didn't want to exploit the killing for political gain(Yes, by then Kennedy was dead)...Many blacks took that as an insult...Including Jackie Robinson(as his wife would tell years later in an interview) ,who as many other blacks switched over from THE PARTY OF LINCOLN...To the dems...
-------So for a hand full of magic beans...The blacks sold out to support the party that wanted to keep them slaves...Spit on the party that freed them...That shows you loyalty. :roll:
-------The funny thing is, it is white people who should hate slavery...The blacks who should be building statues thanking the fact there was slavery,their ticket to America...BECAUSE, if there wasn't, they would be in Africa trying not to be eaten by a lion,trying their ass off to get to 2017 USA...Like everyone else in the world...Can't hide from the facts...
-------Because no where else in the world, allows one to live free and achieve a great chance at life...As long as you are willing to work for it...WORK being the key...Unless you are a dem...Then you can sit on your ass all day drinking 40's at taxpayer's expense...DAMN RIGHT!, the snowflakes don't want things to change... :(
-------As for all those fake ass left wing celebrities ,I'm going to move if Trump is elected...1)Not one said they would move to Africa, what is stopping them?...Africa is not THE USA in 2017...that's what...2)I like to, as Trump would say"punch'em in the face"...As they talk, I'm going to Canada...I don't think Canada wants you...I think of all those who went sneaking to Canada during the Vietnam War with nothing. Not as a rich ass fake left winger cry baby celebrity...Not telling the world ,I'm going...If you want to go...JUST GO!!!!!!!!Or shoot up a baseball game, start a riot, deny free speech on College Campuses across the country...Things snowflakes are great at... :D ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... :D
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby tzor on Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:53 pm

waauw wrote:Funny thing republicans like to ignore is that the USA was founded on liberalism: Montesquieu, Voltaire and Locke. USA land of the snowflakes!!!!


Funny thing is that due to name corruption over the centuries, "Liberals" are not in any shape or form based on "Liberalism." They are, more properly aligned with the ancient Utopian thinkers than with the Age of Enlightenment thinkers. The later tend to have their followers proclaim themselves as "Libertarian." The modern snowflake liberal would be a Tory at the time of the American Revolution and fighting to preserve the authority of good old King George (who was, for those of you who forget, that German who was "King" of England).

This isn't to say that the average Age of Enlightenment thinker didn't have problems of their own, mostly coming from such events as the English Reformation which created a very bad church / state inter-dependency as well as the perceived association of the French Church with the French Monarch. But going into that goes into the land of tl;dr. Instead let's just say that classical liberalism is modern libertarianism, which is sometimes confused with conservatism.
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby Symmetry on Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:54 pm

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waauw wrote:Funny thing republicans like to ignore is that the USA was founded on liberalism: Montesquieu, Voltaire and Locke. USA land of the snowflakes!!!!


Funny thing is that due to name corruption over the centuries, "Liberals" are not in any shape or form based on "Liberalism." They are, more properly aligned with the ancient Utopian thinkers than with the Age of Enlightenment thinkers. The later tend to have their followers proclaim themselves as "Libertarian." The modern snowflake liberal would be a Tory at the time of the American Revolution and fighting to preserve the authority of good old King George (who was, for those of you who forget, that German who was "King" of England).

This isn't to say that the average Age of Enlightenment thinker didn't have problems of their own, mostly coming from such events as the English Reformation which created a very bad church / state inter-dependency as well as the perceived association of the French Church with the French Monarch. But going into that goes into the land of tl;dr. Instead let's just say that classical liberalism is modern libertarianism, which is sometimes confused with conservatism.


Coming from a background studying the 17th century when "Tory" and "Whig" really became political terms, Tory politics were far more "libertine" than Whigs'. Some stuff just doesn't easily translate across the centuries (let alone into "ancient" times). Indeed, I'm not really sure which "Utopian" ancient thinkers you're thinking of- it's not my field, but maybe you're thinking of something like Plato's Republic?

You seem to shift around a lot in your history to justify your arguments though- in terms, concepts and dates. It seems a little like cherry-picking to me.
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby karel on Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:19 pm

glad to see so many trump people,lol
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby waauw on Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:06 am

tzor wrote:
waauw wrote:Funny thing republicans like to ignore is that the USA was founded on liberalism: Montesquieu, Voltaire and Locke. USA land of the snowflakes!!!!


Funny thing is that due to name corruption over the centuries, "Liberals" are not in any shape or form based on "Liberalism." They are, more properly aligned with the ancient Utopian thinkers than with the Age of Enlightenment thinkers. The later tend to have their followers proclaim themselves as "Libertarian." The modern snowflake liberal would be a Tory at the time of the American Revolution and fighting to preserve the authority of good old King George (who was, for those of you who forget, that German who was "King" of England).

This isn't to say that the average Age of Enlightenment thinker didn't have problems of their own, mostly coming from such events as the English Reformation which created a very bad church / state inter-dependency as well as the perceived association of the French Church with the French Monarch. But going into that goes into the land of tl;dr. Instead let's just say that classical liberalism is modern libertarianism, which is sometimes confused with conservatism.


Then you need to explain to me the difference between liberalism and socialism, because these two terms get mixed up so much that it's confusing. Over here liberalism still means the same thing it did centuries ago.
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:20 am

karel wrote:glad to see so many trump people,lol


Back in December 2016 after Trump won the election, Bernie Sanders held a Town Hall meeting in Trump country in Wisconsin. The ignorance of Trump supporters is outright mind blowing!



Bernie has no problem holding Town Hall meetings anywhere in the U.S. where Trump won by landslides.



Karel, here's a real snowflake the Bernie had to melt...

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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:26 am

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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:47 am

ConfederateSS wrote:-------A nice Kennedy,Nixon and King piece Duk....But you forgot...When the 3 kids were killed in Mississippi...Nixon didn't go to Mississippi because he didn't want to exploit the killing for political gain(Yes, by then Kennedy was dead)...Many blacks took that as an insult...Including Jackie Robinson(as his wife would tell years later in an interview) ,who as many other blacks switched over from THE PARTY OF LINCOLN...To the dems...
-------So for a hand full of magic beans...The blacks sold out to support the party that wanted to keep them slaves...Spit on the party that freed them...That shows you loyalty. :roll:
-------The funny thing is, it is white people who should hate slavery...The blacks who should be building statues thanking the fact there was slavery,their ticket to America...BECAUSE, if there wasn't, they would be in Africa trying not to be eaten by a lion,trying their ass off to get to 2017 USA...Like everyone else in the world...Can't hide from the facts...
-------Because no where else in the world, allows one to live free and achieve a great chance at life...As long as you are willing to work for it...WORK being the key...Unless you are a dem...Then you can sit on your ass all day drinking 40's at taxpayer's expense...DAMN RIGHT!, the snowflakes don't want things to change... :(
-------As for all those fake ass left wing celebrities ,I'm going to move if Trump is elected...1)Not one said they would move to Africa, what is stopping them?...Africa is not THE USA in 2017...that's what...2)I like to, as Trump would say"punch'em in the face"...As they talk, I'm going to Canada...I don't think Canada wants you...I think of all those who went sneaking to Canada during the Vietnam War with nothing. Not as a rich ass fake left winger cry baby celebrity...Not telling the world ,I'm going...If you want to go...JUST GO!!!!!!!!Or shoot up a baseball game, start a riot, deny free speech on College Campuses across the country...Things snowflakes are great at... :D ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... :D



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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby karel on Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:40 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:
karel wrote:glad to see so many trump people,lol


Back in December 2016 after Trump won the election, Bernie Sanders held a Town Hall meeting in Trump country in Wisconsin. The ignorance of Trump supporters is outright mind blowing!



Bernie has no problem holding Town Hall meetings anywhere in the U.S. where Trump won by landslides.



Karel, here's a real snowflake the Bernie had to melt...


yea hope bernnie wife goes to jail for steal over mil from the school she taught,and dont worry dems are falling apart faster and faster each day,world will wake up and see how dirty and stinky the clintons are,im going to laugh so f-en hard
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:29 am

Ohhhh, the delusional poster....tell me do you have two nickels to rub to get mental health help?
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby notyou2 on Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:35 pm

This thread needs more right wing diatribe.
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby tzor on Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:11 pm

waauw wrote:Then you need to explain to me the difference between liberalism and socialism, because these two terms get mixed up so much that it's confusing. Over here liberalism still means the same thing it did centuries ago.


That's the only saving grace; they haven't destroyed your language yet. The United States is still living in a quasi 1984 state. It's double plus good!
Socialists in the turn of the 20th century coopted the term "progressive" because it sounded like they were for "progress."
Once that failed like a ton of bricks (with the President going back on his campaign promises to get the US involved in the Great War and almost into the League of Nations) the term was changed to "liberal."

So for most of the 20th century in the US, the term "liberal" meant "socialist." But the deception doesn't end there, originally the Democrat's color was "red" but since they wanted to hide their socialist roots and not be labeled with the "Communists" they had the mainstream media change the party's color (for purposes of identifying which state leaned toward which party) to that of blue. So not only do words no longer mean what they say, even colors no longer mean what they mean.
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby karel on Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:13 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:Ohhhh, the delusional poster....tell me do you have two nickels to rub to get mental health help?


yes nut bag its under your great obama care
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby Symmetry on Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:47 am

karel wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:Ohhhh, the delusional poster....tell me do you have two nickels to rub to get mental health help?


yes nut bag its under your great obama care


You are getting help though, right?
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby Thorthoth on Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:29 am

Whose mental health help?

Letting people like Symmetry think they're normal was just the narrow end of the wedge...
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby waauw on Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:52 am

tzor wrote:
waauw wrote:Then you need to explain to me the difference between liberalism and socialism, because these two terms get mixed up so much that it's confusing. Over here liberalism still means the same thing it did centuries ago.


That's the only saving grace; they haven't destroyed your language yet. The United States is still living in a quasi 1984 state. It's double plus good!
Socialists in the turn of the 20th century coopted the term "progressive" because it sounded like they were for "progress."
Once that failed like a ton of bricks (with the President going back on his campaign promises to get the US involved in the Great War and almost into the League of Nations) the term was changed to "liberal."

So for most of the 20th century in the US, the term "liberal" meant "socialist." But the deception doesn't end there, originally the Democrat's color was "red" but since they wanted to hide their socialist roots and not be labeled with the "Communists" they had the mainstream media change the party's color (for purposes of identifying which state leaned toward which party) to that of blue. So not only do words no longer mean what they say, even colors no longer mean what they mean.


Thank you. Cultural differences can be hard to deal with without the background story.
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Re: why snowflakes are losers

Postby tzor on Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:18 am

waauw wrote:Thank you. Cultural differences can be hard to deal with without the background story.


It's really complex to explain because the socialist / progressive movement that disguised itself as "liberal" started out like a vampire going from one political party to the other in order to survive. The first major progressive in the US was Theodore Roosevelt at the end of the 19th Century with a presidency in the first decade of the 20th. He was a Republican although he tried to form his own party, the Bull Moose.

It then pops up in the guise of Woodrow Wilson, from the Democratic party. A lot of the fundamental elements were formed during this period. A critical key element (even though it is technically a work of "fiction") that describes the early progressive mindset is "Philip Dru: Administrator: A Story of Tomorrow, 1920-1935" written in 1912.
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