No Theme Mafia - town + nag win!

[Ragian]

I knew someone would bring that up. What do you want me to do? Make up a fake claim just because I happened to have a scummy role with similar flavour last time? I can't really take responsibility for the role and the flavour I've been given.

What is your question about Dakky? I don't get it.

[nagerous]

I knew someone would bring that up. What do you want me to do? Make up a fake claim just because I happened to have a scummy role with similar flavour last time? I can't really take responsibility for the role and the flavour I've been given.

What is your question about Dakky? I don't get it.

Dakky was a 'vanilla' as per the dead list . I was just interested in what the actual role title is that is quoted in your PM.

If you knew someone would bring it up why not mention it yourself - it makes me feel like you chose not to mention this to the town which seems scummy to me

[Ragian]

I don't know. Honestly. I should have. I didn't.

I'm not quoting my role pm. I'm just stating my role. Can I quote my role pm?

[Fircoal]

I am suspicious of Pika to a degree. The nameclaim that he gives doesn't give me hope, especially since the usual role of names that are cute and cuddly usually end up being baddies. Furthermore all I know is that he is some type of roleblocker, but not the what about it. It's possible there is more lurking in his role that I wasn't told.

As for Ragian I find it hard to believe that he'd try to fakeclaim his role from another game, or at least a role that was so similar. It's more likely Skittles taking the piss on him and that is his actual role. I don't know about alignment but I think that is his role.

Nag, i can't remember if you answered this, but why did you pick me to add to the bus when you had already done so already? Wouldn't it have given more information to do someone else?

[Skittles!]

Vote Count

Pika (2) - samlen, LOVO
Skoffin (1) - pika

4 to lynch.

[nagerous]

I am suspicious of Pika to a degree. The nameclaim that he gives doesn't give me hope, especially since the usual role of names that are cute and cuddly usually end up being baddies. Furthermore all I know is that he is some type of roleblocker, but not the what about it. It's possible there is more lurking in his role that I wasn't told.

As for Ragian I find it hard to believe that he'd try to fakeclaim his role from another game, or at least a role that was so similar. It's more likely Skittles taking the piss on him and that is his actual role. I don't know about alignment but I think that is his role.

Nag, i can't remember if you answered this, but why did you pick me to add to the bus when you had already done so already? Wouldn't it have given more information to do someone else?

I don't really have a good reason chu, I should have picked someone else. I just thought it would be funny to have the two pikas be bussy'd

[Fircoal]

I am suspicious of Pika to a degree. The nameclaim that he gives doesn't give me hope, especially since the usual role of names that are cute and cuddly usually end up being baddies. Furthermore all I know is that he is some type of roleblocker, but not the what about it. It's possible there is more lurking in his role that I wasn't told.

As for Ragian I find it hard to believe that he'd try to fakeclaim his role from another game, or at least a role that was so similar. It's more likely Skittles taking the piss on him and that is his actual role. I don't know about alignment but I think that is his role.

Nag, i can't remember if you answered this, but why did you pick me to add to the bus when you had already done so already? Wouldn't it have given more information to do someone else?

I don't really have a good reason chu, I should have picked someone else. I just thought it would be funny to have the two pikas be bussy'd

I can believe it.

[Skoffin]

So it seems like we are back at square one. I honestly have no idea who could be what XD At this point I think Pika is the best bet but f*ck me if I can figure out who would be his partner.

Chu did you claim or can I not read?

[lord voldemort]

He did. It's a 2 shot commute and investigate type role. Only used once. Freak with the binocular kink

[Samlen]

Stalling is fun. I'm going to give another rundown on my thoughts and hopefully something happens other than stalling
Town
Samlen - Push-Push-Push it - enabling virgin - connected to voldemort - obviously town
lordvoldemort - monopoly guy - dreaming god - enabled by samlen - would be very cruel if he wasn't town

Probably town.
nagerous - bussy server - chef - seems pretty town from actions. I noticed someone else(I forgot who) said they could be scum, especially given their activity, but I see no way that a chef role would help mafia so I still thinks it's highly unlikely that nag could be mafia. The only uncertainty is if nag wasn't just a chef. Doubt it but I guess I should keep options open Could use more input from him though.
Fircoal - Freak with Binocular Kink - 2-shot Commuter/Cop - Claim is pretty solid and lines up with other action claims. Also no other cop-ish claim so

Not Clear
Skoffin - She Who Forgets - Fake-claimed doc. Bit all over the place yesterday for seemingly no reason. Still no solid roleclaim other than the 'mitch' statement. I still don't know what to think.
Ragian - He Who Never Had A Prom Date - Vanilla - Actions could be of any alignment still imo. Actions seem to fit with vanilla town but nothing else to confirm/deny his role.

Scummier character
Pika - Cute Cat That Scratches - Roleblocker - claims to have blocked fircoal n1 and voldemort n2 (first didn't work according to fircoal, as clarified by fircoal's roleclaim, but second one did according to Voldemort, though he claimed his target after voldemort revealed). He's definitely a roleblocker, but I am dubious about his alignment. More dubious about his alignment than anyone else at least.

I've noticed that I've not been given the douche, and I'm assuming that's because people assume i'm town and don't want anything bad to happen to me, but unless the douche scrubs my role from me, there's no downside if we try to end the day with it attached to me. I have no action that it could stop me from doing and if it kills me I still have a positive affect. Or it can give me a reward I can use to help. If Ragian really is a vanilla townie, he'd probably be the second best choice too for similar reasons. We could ping pong the douche back and forth so if it is negative it'll have the smallest affect. Thoughts?
Also I just realized it's actually a turkey blaster we were told to use for douching. That's fun. Actually skittles would probably find a way to actually make it negative for me especially given the setup. Maybe all this rambling is a bad idea.

[Ragian]

I agree that we should either let you or me douche it out or hand it to whoever there's a consensus about. Perhaps the former suggestion is better. Or easier at least.

Scummy to chummy list here:
-Skoffin, Pika, LoVo
-Samlen, chu, Nag

I'm quite sure the top three there include the two scum we're looking for. And given how Pika was brought to L-1,my money would be on Skoffin and LoVo. The reason I'm bunking down Samlen is gut feeling from his game play. He genuinely seems to have town's best interests at heart.

[Skoffin]

Well at least point you guys have to decide what you think happened last night. You either accept my claim that I was saved last night or the alternative option would be that Pika blocked LoVo last night and stopped the NK. So either I am clear as town or Pika is clear as town and Lovo is scum. I know I was saved last night, but no one has come forward to say anything about it so I'm assuming someone here must have had some sort of dual role but they don't want to mention the other part of it. But I also think that if everyone is telling the truth about their roles I think whomever is scum also has a dual role and they've left off the seecond part of their role type. I'm going to vote for Pika is no one has any better theories to go with.

[Ragian]

You keep saying that you know that you saved the day. Why is that when there's no evidence to back you up?

[Skoffin]

I can't really answer that. But seems to me to solve the "my role is dumb and numerous PRs and I can't give answrs thing" qould be for Nag to pick me tonight along with someone he trusts, andf then they will know my role and stuff and can answer for me.

[Pikanchion]

Well at least point you guys have to decide what you think happened last night. You either accept my claim that I was saved last night or the alternative option would be that Pika blocked LoVo last night and stopped the NK. So either I am clear as town or Pika is clear as town and Lovo is scum. I know I was saved last night, but no one has come forward to say anything about it so I'm assuming someone here must have had some sort of dual role but they don't want to mention the other part of it. But I also think that if everyone is telling the truth about their roles I think whomever is scum also has a dual role and they've left off the seecond part of their role type. I'm going to vote for Pika is no one has any better theories to go with.

Your claim is that a doctor exists and is somebody other than you, but everybody else having claimed we still have no doctor, and that this proves you are town?

I can't really answer that. But seems to me to solve the "my role is dumb and numerous PRs and I can't give answrs thing" qould be for Nag to pick me tonight along with someone he trusts, andf then they will know my role and stuff and can answer for me.

As everybody is still apparently so split; could it be the time for a No Lynch? -I roleblock lord voldemort again, nagerous chooses Skoffin and one other, and we see what we're left with tomorrow.

[Samlen]

Funnily enough, I was wondering if that'd be a good idea. We'd even see what the douche/turkey blaster does. But it could also lead to something crazy negative in the night. But we could get a chance for fircoal to find scum. We could even catch someone in a lie with nag's role (maybe ragian and skoffin since they are least confirmed)? Still it would feel weird to not lynch right now given the information we have. And I still have no idea if ga's role was a cult leader or usurper of a cult leader... something people don't seem to care enough to talk about despite my asking.

[Ragian]

He said he was a usurper of a mafia godfather, didn't he? That's what I'm getting from this:
[...] I tried to help town because as it stands my WC is with town. I haven't voted because I want to avoid switching sides, but from town's perspective the only real doubt with my role is whether I turn GF when I participate in GF's lynch (as per my role) or when the GF dies. If I have to get lynched eventually I would much rather it happens only then, partly because it'd be easier to swallow for me to die when the GF is dead and town is less in danger of lylo and partly because I think I can help town meanwhile.[/quote]

[Skoffin]

Well he must have been town at some point, the question is if he was still town when he died. I suspect he hadn't turned yet, otherwise we'd basically be at game over as we haven't hit any other cult members yet. I think maybe the way it worked is that he was supposed to usurp the mafia godfather, but instead of becoming mafia sided he'd turn into a cult leader? In any case I'm inclined to play as if there is no cult left.

As for lynch, I think we absolutely need to lynch today and not waste an opportunity. I'd like to hear more from others on who their top suspects are. And again I'd like to hear what people think of our missing Nk; do you think I'm lying? If I am lying then that means that pika roleblocked LoVo who put the NK in. If I'm lying that means best case scenario is that both LoVo and I are scum, him for being roleblocked and me for lying about night protection. Other alternative if I'm lying is that LoVo is still scum but I'm some sort of third party or weird role.
So I think people need to decide if they think I'm lying or not because that gives a solid lead; either I'm clear and you can trust me or I'm lying and LoVo is scum.

[Ragian]

I'm not saying that you're lying, I'm saying that you don't know if you're the reason (or at least have failed to provide evidence for any such knowledge). And as you will see, LoVo and you are my main suspects It's either you guys or Pika.

[Skoffin]

Fair enough there mate, now we just need someone else to give an opinion on something

[Fircoal]

The other game is so crazy I keep on forgetting about this one. Personally I'd say I'm most suspicious of Pika and Ragian.

I also think that Skoffin is telling the truth.

[Skoffin]

Players and who they are suspicious of:

Skoff: Pika
Sam: Pika, then skoff/ragian
Ragian: Skoff, pika, Lovo
Chu: pika and ragian
Lovo: unknown
Nag: unknown
pika: unknown

So then we currently stand at 4 for pika, 2 for skoff and 2 for ragian, and 1 for lovo.

[nagerous]

As per my last post I am mostly suspicious of ragian. I am not convinced by the vanilla claim. However as we are a bit of a stand off I am willing to vote pika to continue the game moving though I will say I am not comfortable with it .

If chu got told pika was a roleblocker as part of my bussy I don't understand why he would now be suspicious? Chu do you mind explaining further ?

[nagerous]

Can we establish a douche timeline please too? Where is it now. Who gave it to me?

I cannot trust who gave it to me. Skoffin who did you give it to at first instance... ragi who did you give it to?

[lord voldemort]

I got it early, gave it to raigan. Got it late yesterday, gave it to samlen