Manchester explosion

[DirtyDishSoap]

The majority never matters. When this bomb went off, did the majority matter? No. The twin towers. Did the majority matter? No. The bombings in France, did the majority matter? No. When exactly does the majority matter? When were dust in the wind? Can you honestly say with a straight face that all these Islamists are peaceful when evidence clearly states otherwise? Sure, I'll agree not all muslims are not inherently violent, but the fucking majority does. not. matter.

So your argument is that if a minority of a group carries out destructive acts, every member of that group ought to be expelled from the country as a safety measure?

To be fair I guess it's for a similar reason that no one in the world likes Americans.

At this point, yeah. Sorry. Been what? 14? 15 years and we're still having issues with bombs, shooters and what not? And the origin? The middle east. The same San Bernardino shooters I mentioned not too long ago? Visited the middle east, they're radicals. These same people who others were afraid to blow the fucking whistle, resulted in 14 deaths. All because people are scared to be labeled as a islamaphobe/racist. How fucking sad does this have to get?

Whether you like me or not, I don't really care. This is a real issue, if you want to say "boo fucking hoo, they're not all bad", congrats, you're not solving anything.

[mrswdk]

As I said before, if your priority is the expulsion of a group of people within which there is a small minority of dangerous individuals then the most dangerous group, and therefore your first priority, is Americans:

US Has Killed More Than 20 Million People in 37 “Victim Nations” Since World War II

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-kil ... ii/5492051

Step one is for every civilized country on this planet to expel any and all Americans currently living within their borders. Send them back to America where they belong.

Step two is a bit trickier, as this one involves protecting Americans. Let's look at your concerns about Islamist plots against America, starting with the fact that most Islamists trying to attack America are actually Americans:



It's also worth noting that the problem spans all creeds and colors of American, given that white Americans are just as likely to commit or plan to commit atrocities against other Americans (Sandy Hook, Columbine, Aurora etc.). Logically, then, in order to protect America USG will need to get rid of all Americans. However, given we've already established that Americans are a danger to the rest of the world, no other country is going to accept the Americans after they've been expelled from America. America therefore can't expel all its Americans to keep itself safe.

The only other way to remove all Americans from America is to exterminate them. Luckily America has a $600 billion military and an enormous nuclear arsenal, so it should be more than up to the task. Assuming everything goes smoothly I expect Trump could be dropping the first nukes on Texas by October.

[mookiemcgee]

All the crowned heads of Europe have issued their fill-in-the-blank "thoughts and prayers" boilerplates.

On behalf of the Netherlands, I express our great remorse and solidarity with the _________ people after the terrible tragedy in __________. Our thoughts and prayers are with __________ at this time. I have called Prime Minister _________ to offer our support and solidarity in this hour of need.

Meanwhile, President Donald Trump has made a genuine statement.

There is nothing 'genuine' or 'heartfelt' about his speech or his choice of words... This speech could have been sitting on his desk since before the election just waiting for the right time to use it. I'm not really trying to argue for or against his tactics against terrorism here, but let's not kid ourselves that he's just speaking from the heart.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/160986020961/goodbye-isis-hello-losers

[saxitoxin]

All the crowned heads of Europe have issued their fill-in-the-blank "thoughts and prayers" boilerplates.

On behalf of the Netherlands, I express our great remorse and solidarity with the _________ people after the terrible tragedy in __________. Our thoughts and prayers are with __________ at this time. I have called Prime Minister _________ to offer our support and solidarity in this hour of need.

Meanwhile, President Donald Trump has made a genuine statement.

There is nothing 'genuine' or 'heartfelt' about his speech or his choice of words... This speech could have been sitting on his desk since before the election just waiting for the right time to use it. I'm not really trying to argue for or against his tactics against terrorism here, but let's not kid ourselves that he's just speaking from the heart.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/160986020961/goodbye-isis-hello-losers

loser

[saxitoxin]

listening to my flamboyantly gay neighbors and their hot girlfriends having a BBQ party in backyard five mins ago

girl: did you hear about this thing at the Ariana Grande concert the other day?
Gay guy: LOVE HER! what happened
Girl: some guy attacked people at her concert with a nail gun
Guy: OMG, was anyone hurt?
Girl: like 22 people were killed!
Guy: WHAT?
Different girl: it wasn't a nail gun, it was a bomb!
Girl: yeah it happened in Manchester
Guy: New Hampshire?
Girl: no in England!
Guy: oh OK, I thought this was like another 9/11 thing - is she okay?
Girl: yeah she canceled the rest of her tour and is coming back
Guy: good for her! She is fierce

[mookiemcgee]

All the crowned heads of Europe have issued their fill-in-the-blank "thoughts and prayers" boilerplates.

On behalf of the Netherlands, I express our great remorse and solidarity with the _________ people after the terrible tragedy in __________. Our thoughts and prayers are with __________ at this time. I have called Prime Minister _________ to offer our support and solidarity in this hour of need.

Meanwhile, President Donald Trump has made a genuine statement.

There is nothing 'genuine' or 'heartfelt' about his speech or his choice of words... This speech could have been sitting on his desk since before the election just waiting for the right time to use it. I'm not really trying to argue for or against his tactics against terrorism here, but let's not kid ourselves that he's just speaking from the heart.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/160986020961/goodbye-isis-hello-losers

loser

evil twat

[BoganGod]

All the crowned heads of Europe have issued their fill-in-the-blank "thoughts and prayers" boilerplates.

On behalf of the Netherlands, I express our great remorse and solidarity with the _________ people after the terrible tragedy in __________. Our thoughts and prayers are with __________ at this time. I have called Prime Minister _________ to offer our support and solidarity in this hour of need.

Meanwhile, President Donald Trump has made a genuine statement.

There is nothing 'genuine' or 'heartfelt' about his speech or his choice of words... This speech could have been sitting on his desk since before the election just waiting for the right time to use it. I'm not really trying to argue for or against his tactics against terrorism here, but let's not kid ourselves that he's just speaking from the heart.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/160986020961/goodbye-isis-hello-losers

loser

evil twat

yeah he probably supports Man U. Why you hating on your god king though? Seriously are you jealous of the lion's mane?

[betiko]

The majority never matters. When this bomb went off, did the majority matter? No. The twin towers. Did the majority matter? No. The bombings in France, did the majority matter? No. When exactly does the majority matter? When were dust in the wind? Can you honestly say with a straight face that all these Islamists are peaceful when evidence clearly states otherwise? Sure, I'll agree not all muslims are not inherently violent, but the fucking majority does. not. matter.

So your argument is that if a minority of a group carries out destructive acts, every member of that group ought to be expelled from the country as a safety measure?

To be fair I guess it's for a similar reason that no one in the world likes Americans.

At this point, yeah. Sorry. Been what? 14? 15 years and we're still having issues with bombs, shooters and what not? And the origin? The middle east. The same San Bernardino shooters I mentioned not too long ago? Visited the middle east, they're radicals. These same people who others were afraid to blow the fucking whistle, resulted in 14 deaths. All because people are scared to be labeled as a islamaphobe/racist. How fucking sad does this have to get?

Whether you like me or not, I don't really care. This is a real issue, if you want to say "boo fucking hoo, they're not all bad", congrats, you're not solving anything.

So should all american kids with problems ought to be expelled out of the country as well because of the increased school/university mass shooting increases in the past two decades? Sounds legit

[betiko]

listening to my flamboyantly gay neighbors and their hot girlfriends having a BBQ party in backyard five mins ago

girl: did you hear about this thing at the Ariana Grande concert the other day?
Gay guy: LOVE HER! what happened
Girl: some guy attacked people at her concert with a nail gun
Guy: OMG, was anyone hurt?
Girl: like 22 people were killed!
Guy: WHAT?
Different girl: it wasn't a nail gun, it was a bomb!
Girl: yeah it happened in Manchester
Guy: New Hampshire?
Girl: no in England!
Guy: oh OK, I thought this was like another 9/11 thing - is she okay?
Girl: yeah she canceled the rest of her tour and is coming back
Guy: good for her! She is fierce

Americans! No wonder they re dumb enough to vote for trump.

We french have Macron, cupcake

[mrswdk]

listening to my flamboyantly gay neighbors and their hot girlfriends having a BBQ party in backyard five mins ago

girl: did you hear about this thing at the Ariana Grande concert the other day?
Gay guy: LOVE HER! what happened
Girl: some guy attacked people at her concert with a nail gun
Guy: OMG, was anyone hurt?
Girl: like 22 people were killed!
Guy: WHAT?
Different girl: it wasn't a nail gun, it was a bomb!
Girl: yeah it happened in Manchester
Guy: New Hampshire?
Girl: no in England!
Guy: oh OK, I thought this was like another 9/11 thing - is she okay?
Girl: yeah she canceled the rest of her tour and is coming back
Guy: good for her! She is fierce

Americans! No wonder they re dumb enough to vote for trump.

We french have Macron, cupcake

Yeah in America Trump got a gigantic 46.1% of the popular vote, whereas in France Le Pen only got 33.9% of the popular vote.

[betiko]

listening to my flamboyantly gay neighbors and their hot girlfriends having a BBQ party in backyard five mins ago

girl: did you hear about this thing at the Ariana Grande concert the other day?
Gay guy: LOVE HER! what happened
Girl: some guy attacked people at her concert with a nail gun
Guy: OMG, was anyone hurt?
Girl: like 22 people were killed!
Guy: WHAT?
Different girl: it wasn't a nail gun, it was a bomb!
Girl: yeah it happened in Manchester
Guy: New Hampshire?
Girl: no in England!
Guy: oh OK, I thought this was like another 9/11 thing - is she okay?
Girl: yeah she canceled the rest of her tour and is coming back
Guy: good for her! She is fierce

Americans! No wonder they re dumb enough to vote for trump.

We french have Macron, cupcake

Yeah in America Trump got a gigantic 46.1% of the popular vote, whereas in France Le Pen only got 33.9% of the popular vote.

That s right cupcake, only in america the one with the less voters can get elected
Keep bringing water to my mill... for the land of the creep, and the home of the vains!

[mrswdk]

And people ask why the UK voted to leave the EU.

[saxitoxin]

listening to my flamboyantly gay neighbors and their hot girlfriends having a BBQ party in backyard five mins ago

girl: did you hear about this thing at the Ariana Grande concert the other day?
Gay guy: LOVE HER! what happened
Girl: some guy attacked people at her concert with a nail gun
Guy: OMG, was anyone hurt?
Girl: like 22 people were killed!
Guy: WHAT?
Different girl: it wasn't a nail gun, it was a bomb!
Girl: yeah it happened in Manchester
Guy: New Hampshire?
Girl: no in England!
Guy: oh OK, I thought this was like another 9/11 thing - is she okay?
Girl: yeah she canceled the rest of her tour and is coming back
Guy: good for her! She is fierce

Americans! No wonder they re dumb enough to vote for trump.

I don't know for sure, but I'm reasonably certain my flamboyantly gay 25-y/o neighbor who listens to Ariana Grande is probably not a Trump voter.

[2dimes]

You need to ask, we want to know for certain.

[betiko]

Please ask him saxi.

[mrswdk]

Yeah, these two come from a culture where even the hardline nationalists kiss each other on the cheeks and listen to sugary eurodance when they're driving so I think the implications of an American man being a flamboyant Ariana Grande fan are lost on them.

[saxitoxin]

Yeah, these two come from a culture where even the hardline nationalists kiss each other on the cheeks and listen to sugary eurodance when they're driving so I think the implications of an American man being a flamboyant Ariana Grande fan are lost on them.

my favorite photo of an anti-gay marriage protester in Paris ---



nothing screams "straight" like dancing on the street wearing a skin-type lycra bodysuit and two fantasy dragonfly wings

[nietzsche]

Manchester United!

thanks to the special one.

[DirtyDishSoap]

The majority never matters. When this bomb went off, did the majority matter? No. The twin towers. Did the majority matter? No. The bombings in France, did the majority matter? No. When exactly does the majority matter? When were dust in the wind? Can you honestly say with a straight face that all these Islamists are peaceful when evidence clearly states otherwise? Sure, I'll agree not all muslims are not inherently violent, but the fucking majority does. not. matter.

So your argument is that if a minority of a group carries out destructive acts, every member of that group ought to be expelled from the country as a safety measure?

To be fair I guess it's for a similar reason that no one in the world likes Americans.

At this point, yeah. Sorry. Been what? 14? 15 years and we're still having issues with bombs, shooters and what not? And the origin? The middle east. The same San Bernardino shooters I mentioned not too long ago? Visited the middle east, they're radicals. These same people who others were afraid to blow the fucking whistle, resulted in 14 deaths. All because people are scared to be labeled as a islamaphobe/racist. How fucking sad does this have to get?

Whether you like me or not, I don't really care. This is a real issue, if you want to say "boo fucking hoo, they're not all bad", congrats, you're not solving anything.

So should all american kids with problems ought to be expelled out of the country as well because of the increased school/university mass shooting increases in the past two decades? Sounds legit

Yes, because a mentally ill psycho is the same thing as a religious fanatic. Great comparison.

[mrswdk]

Yeah when white kids shoot up the school it's because they're mentally ill, but when brown kids blow themselves up in the school they're definitely sane.

[betiko]

The majority never matters. When this bomb went off, did the majority matter? No. The twin towers. Did the majority matter? No. The bombings in France, did the majority matter? No. When exactly does the majority matter? When were dust in the wind? Can you honestly say with a straight face that all these Islamists are peaceful when evidence clearly states otherwise? Sure, I'll agree not all muslims are not inherently violent, but the fucking majority does. not. matter.

So your argument is that if a minority of a group carries out destructive acts, every member of that group ought to be expelled from the country as a safety measure?

To be fair I guess it's for a similar reason that no one in the world likes Americans.

At this point, yeah. Sorry. Been what? 14? 15 years and we're still having issues with bombs, shooters and what not? And the origin? The middle east. The same San Bernardino shooters I mentioned not too long ago? Visited the middle east, they're radicals. These same people who others were afraid to blow the fucking whistle, resulted in 14 deaths. All because people are scared to be labeled as a islamaphobe/racist. How fucking sad does this have to get?

Whether you like me or not, I don't really care. This is a real issue, if you want to say "boo fucking hoo, they're not all bad", congrats, you're not solving anything.

So should all american kids with problems ought to be expelled out of the country as well because of the increased school/university mass shooting increases in the past two decades? Sounds legit

Yes, because a mentally ill psycho is the same thing as a religious fanatic. Great comparison.

Are you really that dumb? It s the exact same thing. Religious fanatics that decide to blow themselves up are not mentally ill psychos? Have you ever heard them talk? It s the exact same shit. They are people that don t find their space in the society and that embrace paranoic thoughts and execute them.. often due to group effects.
A large part of these guys that blow themselves up were not even religious a year before.. it s just an excuse to have a purpose in the life they want to end and to hurt society with a justification.

[betiko]

Yeah when white kids shoot up the school it's because they're mentally ill, but when brown kids blow themselves up in the school they're definitely sane.

Hey mrs are we finally agreeing on something?

[DirtyDishSoap]

Yeah when white kids shoot up the school it's because they're mentally ill, but when brown kids blow themselves up in the school they're definitely sane.

Your ignorance on religious fanatics vs a mentally ill kid is astonishing.

One spreads the "faith" to numerous people, in this case, millions. Hurbablurrr!

The other, one lone kid with a problem in his brain.

If you want me to dumb it down further, let me know, I can go buy a box of crayons and spell it out for you.

[mrswdk]

Yeah when white kids shoot up the school it's because they're mentally ill, but when brown kids blow themselves up in the school they're definitely sane.

Hey mrs are we finally agreeing on something?

The need for a cool guy like Trump to come deal with these crazy kids? Absolutely

One spreads the "faith" to numerous people, in this case, millions. Hurbablurrr!

The other, one lone kid with a problem in his brain.

Based on biographies of more than seven hundred foreign fighters uncovered at an Iraqi insurgent camp, researchers believe that the motivation for suicide missions (at least in Iraq) was not "the global jihadi ideology", but "an explosive mix of desperation, pride, anger, sense of powerlessness, local tradition of resistance and religious fervor."

Criminal Justice professor Adam Lankford argues that suicide terrorists are not psychologically normal or stable, and are motivated to suicide/killing to mask their desire to die beneath a "veneer of heroic action", because of the religious consequences of killing themselves outright. He has identified more than 130 individual suicide terrorists, including 9/11 ringleader Mohamed Atta, with classic suicidal risk factors, such as depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, other mental health problems, drug addictions, serious physical injuries or disabilities, or having suffered the unexpected death of a loved one or from other personal crises.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_a ... d_religion

[DirtyDishSoap]

Don't they teach you folks not to use Wikipedia as source material?

Religious Foundations of Suicide Bombings

In recent decades, the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas has embraced suicide bombings to lethal effect. Its 1987 charter shows its intellectual and theological justifications. It cites the Qur'an[68] to promote the idea of Muslim exclusivity and hadith from Bukhari and the Sahih Muslim calling for the murder of Jews to hasten the Day of Judgment. More recent exegesis also influenced Hamas. The charter cites Banna's call for Islam to obliterate Israel and is explicit about the violent nature of jihad: Article 13 argues that there is no solution to the Palestinian question but through jihad, and Article 15 declares the necessity to instill jihad in the heart of the Muslim nation.

The 9-11 suicide attacks sparked significant debate in the Islamic world about the merits of suicide attacks.[69] Sheikh Muhammad Sa'id al-Tantawi, head of Cairo's Al-Azhar, the most prestigious university for Sunni jurisprudence, declared that the Shari‘a rejects all attempts on taking human life, and Sheikh Muhammad bin ‘Abdallah al-Sabil, a member of the Saudi Council of Islamic Clerics and imam at the Grand Mosque in Mecca, decried the suicide attacks on the basis that Islamic law forbids killing civilians, suicide, and protects Jews and Christians. But both Tantawi and Sabil sidestep the question of "martyrdom operations." Because preserving the life of dhimmis (Jews and Christians) is conditional to their acceptance of Muslim rule, suicide attacks upon Israelis or Jews and Christians outside majority Muslim countries may be permissible. Indeed, other Al-Azhar scholars, for example, ‘Abd al-'Azim al-Mit'ani, say it is permissible to kill Israeli civilians in the cause of jihad.[70]

Conclusion

Suicide bombing in the Muslim world cannot be separated from religion. Its perpetrators believe jihad to be synonymous with war and mandate Muslims to strike not only at non-Muslims but also at co-religionists deemed insufficiently loyal to their radical cause. The ideological basis of such an interpretation has deep roots in Islamic theology, but it came to prominence with the twentieth-century rise of Muslim Brotherhood theorists such as Banna and Qutb and was further developed by their successors. While much of the exegesis developed out of Sunni jurisprudence, the Islamic Republic in Iran encouraged the phenomenon. Many of Tehran's proxy groups embraced the tactic.

It is fashionable among Western analysts and academics to explain away suicide bombing with discussion of "root causes" that omit religion. Many cite a history of exploitation by Western powers, Israel's existence, government oppression, poverty, lack of education, and alienation as reasons why desperate individuals decide to blow themselves up to murder others. But attention to suicide bombers' own justifications suggest that, for them, Islam and its call for jihad is the primary motivation.

Passages from their book. Quick facts.

Notes
Each week, there are about ten attempted suicide bombings - all by Muslims. The reason why these Muslims are prone to self-detonation has nothing to do with genetics, desperation or suicide. It is the ideology that promotes martyrdom by promising paradise to those who lose their lives for the cause of Allah.

A suicide bombing is really an act of homicide. When apologists in the West say that Islam is against suicide bombings by pointing to hadith that oppose killing oneself (such as Bukhari (23:446)), they are being disingenuous. Many Muslims in the Arab world, who are less concerned about public relations, celebrate and revere suicide bombers, knowing that martyrdom in battle is glorified by their religion. As the Ayatollah Khomeini put it, "The purest joy in Islam is to kill and be killed for Allah."