Gustaf Wasa wrote:This is hilarious.
It most certainly is.
Gustaf Wasa wrote:Those who question the holes in the 9/11 Commission Report are "lemmings" according to Backglass! So Senator Max Cleland, former member of the Commission, is a lemming. Senator Bob Graham, former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, is a lemming. General Wesley Clark is a lemming. The former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command is a lemming. The guy from the CIA who prepared the daily briefings for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush is a lemming. The former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis is a lemming. The former President of Italy - a lemming. The former Minister of National Defense in Canada - a lemming. The former Minister of Justice in Germany is a lemming. The President of Egypt is a lemming. Fantastic.
Yes. These are all non-engineering types following along on the bandwagon. None of these people have ever taken an engineering class, let alone built a skyscraper to my knowledge.
I can put together a long list of names that believe we never went to the moon...none of them in the aerospace industry. Does that make it so?
Gustaf Wasa wrote:You ask, "What official version", Backglass?
Yes. What "official version" of how the world trade center towers fell.
Gustaf Wasa wrote:If you didn't even know that ... I have to wonder if you know anything at all, or are just regurgigating the neocon line.
I am familiar with the report.
Gustaf Wasa wrote:When even an eye witness, an officer at the Pentagon, says they didn't see any plane after the impact at the Pentagon, and when pictures show not a trace of an airplane --- then you have to be a lemming to still claim there was one.
No trace of a plane? Surely you cant be serious! Here are a few "traces I found for you:
Wheel rims
Landing gear strut
More parts complete with "Boeing Green" primer.
Part of the APU (Auxilliary Power Unit)
Hit lightpoles & damaged vehicles
Debris...complete with American Airlines logo
How about a few eyewitnesses?
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Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that?" Nobody could believe it.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001
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Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002
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Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001
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Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001
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Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,' he said."
- "Hell on Earth." UU World, Jan/Feb 20
"We were the only people, we think, who saw it live,"
Dan Creed said. He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said. "I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," - Ahwatukee Foothill News
Gary Bauer former Presidential candidate, "I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn�t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment." Massachusetts News
Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building," Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief Sean Boger said. "It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building." dcmilitary.com November 16, 2001
"The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear. The devastation was horrific. It was obvious that some of the victims we found had no time to react. The distance the firefighters had to travel down corridors to reach the fires was a problem. With only a good 25 minutes of air in their SCBA bottles, to save air they left off their face pieces as they walked and took in a lot of smoke," Captain Defina said.
Captain Defina was the shift commander [of an aircraft rescue firefighters crew.] NFPA Journal November 1, 2001
Gustaf Wasa wrote:Hunt the Boeing! Note: the hole seen here is much bigger than the initial hole, seen by Lt. Helen Kwiatkowski, as reported in her statement above. These pictures were taken after the ceiling fell down. From the beginning, it was actually just a hole in the wall.
Your "hole theory" doesn't hold water. The hole was 16-20 feet in diameter approximately...even the conspiracy theorists agree on this. The
fuselage of a 757 is 13 feet in diameter. Why is it so strange that basically a 13 foot cylinder could create a 16 foot hole in a recently hardened, ultra hi-security building? Were you expecting a perfect cutout of an airplane, wings and all?
BUT....all this is wrong. The parts you see were planted moments after the missile explosion by shadowy government agents! The eyewitnesses are all plants...paid informants! The 757 itself was flown to area 51 and is being dismantled! The passengers & crew were all killed and cremated! And the hundreds of Americans involved in this plot have all kept silent for FIVE YEARS. No need to blow the cover and make millions of dollars...it's all for the NEW WORLD ORDER...THE MASONIC TEMPLE OF BUSH!!
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