China very communist. Not like America

[DirtyDishSoap]

*ahem*

[Bernie Sanders]

ahem....

China is more Capitalistic than America. Just look at the poverty in China.

Capitalism does not give a flying FUK about poor people.



Now go back and read a book about true Marxism/Communism, you fuking uneducated cannon fodder!

[mrswdk]

Just look at the poverty in China.

How China lifted 500 million people out of extreme poverty

[GoranZ]

*ahem*

Are you referring Communism as bad? You know nothing about it then

[BoganGod]

*ahem*

Are you referring Communism as bad? You know nothing about it then

Communism like Islam is in theory a very good, safe, friendly, kind and beautiful equal for all religion. In reality communism has some pigs more equal than other pigs 1984 is a work of prophecy.

[mrswdk]

*ahem*

Are you referring Communism as bad? You know nothing about it then

Communism like Islam is in theory a very good, safe, friendly, kind and beautiful equal for all religion. In reality communism has some pigs more equal than other pigs 1984 is a work of prophecy.

Ironic that you see 1984 as anti-communist propaganda given that when I read it I thought it could just as easily have been written in the early 21st century as anti-American propaganda.

[GoranZ]

*ahem*

Are you referring Communism as bad? You know nothing about it then

Communism like Islam is in theory a very good, safe, friendly, kind and beautiful equal for all religion. In reality communism has some pigs more equal than other pigs 1984 is a work of prophecy.

Communism is very different from Islam, actually communism doesn't even recognize theistic religion as friendly.

For humankind communism is very good system, successes in USSR and China are more then obvious. That system transformed those countries from nonindustrial countries to industrial countries. USSR won the race for flying into the space and lost the one for the moon, China is winning the economical race atm.
As any other system it has its flaws and strengths but in general its a system which goal is to reduce the difference between rich and poor and its one of the best in that.

ATM conjunction of Communism and Democracy is probably the best possible system that the humankind has come up with.

[Dukasaur]

*ahem*

Are you referring Communism as bad? You know nothing about it then

Communism like Islam is in theory a very good, safe, friendly, kind and beautiful equal for all religion. In reality communism has some pigs more equal than other pigs 1984 is a work of prophecy.

Ironic that you see 1984 as anti-communist propaganda given that when I read it I thought it could just as easily have been written in the early 21st century as anti-American propaganda.

It's neither. 1984 shows all three worlds: the Anglo-American empire, represented by Oceania; the Russian empire, represented by Eurasia; and the Chinese empire, represented by Eastasia. Far from taking sides between them, Orwell is pointing out that all three superpowers are in a mutually co-operative game, that all three see the enslavement and exploitation of their own citizens as their primary goal, that the "conflicts" between them are show-pieces to justify such enslavement.

Animal Farm, on the other hand, is a straight-up parody of Lenin's Russia. The pigs comment comes from there, so BG was mixing his metaphors a little bit.

It's incorrect to view Orwell's work as a monolithic body of propaganda. Animal Farm and 1984 are very different books with related but independent themes.

[DirtyDishSoap]

*ahem*

Are you referring Communism as bad? You know nothing about it then

Was wondering when someone would just fly in and go "Arrrg! You know nothing Jon Snow!"

Really have nothing against communism, great in practice and theory, doesn't last long though. USSR is a poor example for communism because A. Marxism was the foundation built around Lenin until our boy in red, Stalin, decided to take a flaccid dump all over it. Ya know, the guy a little less evil than Hitler. And B. Failed utterly and Russia was forced to be rebuilt in what we know Russia as today. Capitalist, and a democracy to boot. Although with Putin it's more like a dictatorship.
China? Capitalist. Formerly communist. With a f*ck ton of censorship.

So again, great in theory, love the idea behind it, but capitalism plays on peoples greed and the lavish lifestyle that can com with it. "The American Dream". Communism doesn't. No one likes to be equals in the long run.

How did this turn into a communism vs Islam? Islam is a shitty religion that wants to impose Sharia Law, violently. Not going to argue any merits for Islam because there is none.

[Qwert]

America not far from comunism- 2 party state-China 1 party state.

[BoganGod]

*ahem*

Are you referring Communism as bad? You know nothing about it then

Communism like Islam is in theory a very good, safe, friendly, kind and beautiful equal for all religion. In reality communism has some pigs more equal than other pigs 1984 is a work of prophecy.

Ironic that you see 1984 as anti-communist propaganda given that when I read it I thought it could just as easily have been written in the early 21st century as anti-American propaganda.

It's neither. 1984 shows all three worlds: the Anglo-American empire, represented by Oceania; the Russian empire, represented by Eurasia; and the Chinese empire, represented by Eastasia. Far from taking sides between them, Orwell is pointing out that all three superpowers are in a mutually co-operative game, that all three see the enslavement and exploitation of their own citizens as their primary goal, that the "conflicts" between them are show-pieces to justify such enslavement.

Animal Farm, on the other hand, is a straight-up parody of Lenin's Russia. The pigs comment comes from there, so BG was mixing his metaphors a little bit.

It's incorrect to view Orwell's work as a monolithic body of propaganda. Animal Farm and 1984 are very different books with related but independent themes.

Ah ha, dukysnore is awake me thinks. So I won't try and mix my metaphors too much this week. I was thinking of sneaking through a LOTR quote and trying to pass it off as CS Lewis written, reckon given the right circumstances that would fly. Conflating Moby Dick and Treasure Island is another fun attention test. Did you stop to consider maybe I was throwing the pig quote in for it's Islamic potency.

[warmonger1981]

Russia and China both got much of their technology from a capitalist country. America. If American business didn't give Russia and China technology then both countries would be in the shitter.

[mrswdk]

Russia and China both got much of their technology from a capitalist country. America. If American business didn't give Russia and China technology then both countries would be in the shitter.

And America started its industrialization by borrowing, buying and stealing technology from the UK. I guess what you are saying is that the entire world should be grateful to the British for coming along and dragging everyone else out of the mud.

[Dukasaur]

Yes.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Russia and China both got much of their technology from a capitalist country. America. If American business didn't give Russia and China technology then both countries would be in the shitter.

And America started its industrialization by borrowing, buying and stealing technology from the UK. I guess what you are saying is that the entire world should be grateful to the British for coming along and dragging everyone else out of the mud.

We should all thank the Roman Empire then.

[Maxleod]

Russia and China both got much of their technology from a capitalist country. America. If American business didn't give Russia and China technology then both countries would be in the shitter.

And America started its industrialization by borrowing, buying and stealing technology from the UK. I guess what you are saying is that the entire world should be grateful to the British for coming along and dragging everyone else out of the mud.

We should all thank the Roman Empire then.

No. We should thank Ancient Egypt. They invented agriculture, without agriculture we'd still be hunters/gatherers with a 20 years life expectancy AND thanks to them KITTY IS YOUR FRIEND.

[DirtyDishSoap]

I'd like to thank cave men for fire

[warmonger1981]

I'd like to thank cave men for fire

WINNER!!!!

[mrswdk]

Is no one going to thank god for making cavemen? Rude.

[warmonger1981]

Is no one going to thank god for making cavemen? Rude.

Prove God exists. Silly China person.

[tzor]

Prove God exists. Silly China person.

The Babelfish ...

Oh crap ... God vanished in a puff of logic again.

Nevermind, the Babelfish obviously was created by an infinite improbability device, not God ...

It's ok, God, you can appear again.

[warmonger1981]

Prove God exists. Silly China person.

The Babelfish ...

Oh crap ... God vanished in a puff of logic again.

Nevermind, the Babelfish obviously was created by an infinite improbability device, not God ...

It's ok, God, you can appear again.

You must be talking about the Nommo spirits believed by the Dogon Tribe. They are amphibious hermaphrodites. Sometimes described as fish. They came from a world that revolved around the star Sirius. That's why you have Sirius radio. Also called the dog star. Now you been educated.