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Postby Jenos Ridan on Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:19 am

Anarchist wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
Anarchist wrote:sorry Jenos,

intent just isnt a good enough reason to put them in seperate categories
Hitlers intent after all was to bring Deutchland to its rightfull place on top of the world, does his intent make him better then a Mafia?

Sorry for using the extreme example

Its all excuses, If we get rid of one we get rid of the other.

your arguement about money being bad just prooves the point against property
The arguement about illegal drugs promoting illegal drugs just supports the arguement for legalising them, Its a dark day when prescription drugs kill as many people as the illegal ones


True, intent is never enough. Hence the need for action based on stated intent.

Anarchy will not last. If their were not government, there would be nothing to stop a crazy, sick freak from murdering you (likely, in your sleep cause that is how he gets his rock off). And ownership of property is not evil by intent, it is evil by misuse.


The nuclear bomb isnt bad, its evil by missuse.
Not a great incentive to have one since it will most likely be missused.
Anarchy may not last, but atleast more of us will follow older codes then these highly dissagreeable newer ones.

To be honest im more afraid of the morality police then a sociapath.


Nuclear bombs are weapons, but unlike most other weapons, they are never used. It is a deterint factor. Ever hear of M.A.D.? Your analogy is thus flawed.

Explain what you mean by the newer codes. And for that matter, the older codes too, so as we're both on the same page.
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Postby Anarchist on Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:33 am

M.A.D.?

I was simply intending to imply that everything has the ability to be abused, while some things flat out encourage it. Nuclear has been used,
ofcourse if it happens again....

Im only taking a stance that things that encourage abuse and encourage negative outcomes do more harm then good, and I would not shed a tear if they were removed.

probably not my best analogy,I admit.
New Codes- meaning modern law
Old Codes- being everything from Pirate codes,Knight Codes,Samurai Codes etc..
-Meaning that while both take a stance against murder, one holds no reference to what type of life you must lead(other then a noble one,etc..)
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:45 am

Anarchist wrote:M.A.D.?

I was simply intending to imply that everything has the ability to be abused, while some things flat out encourage it. Nuclear has been used,
ofcourse if it happens again....

Im only taking a stance that things that encourage abuse and encourage negative outcomes do more harm then good, and I would not shed a tear if they were removed.

probably not my best analogy,I admit.
New Codes- meaning modern law
Old Codes- being everything from Pirate codes,Knight Codes,Samurai Codes etc..
-Meaning that while both take a stance against murder, one holds no reference to what type of life you must lead(other then a noble one,etc..)


Ok, now I see what you mean. Chivalry, Bushido (samurai honor code) and the nearly non-existant pirate code are all well-intended guidelines. As opposed to say, the current legal codes; modern law has no philosophy.
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Postby Anarchist on Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:57 am

Current Society has no philosophy(think about it)

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Postby Iliad on Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:00 am

Woah this thread became serious!
How did this happen?
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:16 am

Iliad wrote:Woah this thread became serious!
How did this happen?


Because it is a serious topic, obivously.
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Postby Anarchist on Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:19 am

Come on Jenos,

current society has no philosophy(always exceptions)
Society is based on science,Science is mechanical
Modern religion is based on written documents with different interpretations. were asking "what does it say?" not "what does it mean?"

agree?
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:27 am

Anarchist wrote:Come on Jenos,

current society has no philosophy(always exceptions)
Society is based on science,Science is mechanical
Modern religion is based on written documents with different interpretations. were asking "what does it say?" not "what does it mean?"

agree?


Modern Society is varied in its philosophies. But the underlying theme is basically "Live like there ain't no tomarrow", get rich and "It's my body, I'm gonna do what I damn well please".

And yes, most religious believes are based on written scriptures with interpretations of such. I perfer to base what I believe on what the written word says and, thusly, what it means.
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Postby Anarchist on Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:30 am

those are very shallow philosophies
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:36 am

Anarchist wrote:those are very shallow philosophies


Hence why I don't live that way anymore. I'm only in the world, afterall, not of it.

There may yet be hope for you.
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Postby Anarchist on Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:43 am

LOL

its not me im worried about,
I do believe you've taken me to literally or to seriously?
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:48 am

Anarchist wrote:LOL

its not me im worried about,
I do believe you've taken me to literally or to seriously?


By which you mean to say, "I believe in the previously stated modern ethics"?
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