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Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby waauw on Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:38 am

Are the Goranzes of this world about to go banzai on each other?

Macedonia has become the latest theatre in a tug-of-war between the West and Russia over the future of the Western Balkans.

...“[We must] avoid that this political and institutional crisis becomes an inter-ethnic conflict or, even worse, a geopolitical one,” EU foreign relations chief Federica Mogherini said after meeting Ivanov in Skopje on Thursday.

...Nato head Jens Stoltenberg and the US ambassador to Macedonia, Jess L. Baily, echoed her views. “I look to the authorities in Skopje to fulfil the next step in the democratic process,” Stoltenberg said. Baily, who also met Ivanov, said his decision was “inconsistent with basic democratic principles and the rule of law which are core values of Nato.”

...The Russian foreign ministry said on Thursday that EU and Nato had caused the crisis and that they endorsed the creation of a “greater Albania” in the region. “The political crisis in Macedonia [was] provoked by the gross external interference in the country’s internal affairs,” Russia said.

...Some 15,000 supporters of former Macedonian prime minister Nikolai Gruevski and his VMRO-DPMNE party, which stands to lose power after 11 years in office, chanted anti-Albanian and anti-EU slogans such as “EU hands off Macedonia”. Gruevski won the most seats in the election, but his party, which is embroiled in a corruption scandal, failed to build a coalition.

Macedonia is home to some 500,000 ethnic Albanians who make up 25 percent of the population.

https://euobserver.com/foreign/137100
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Re: Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby GoranZ on Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:22 pm

waauw wrote:Are the Goranzes of this world about to go banzai on each other?

Macedonia has become the latest theatre in a tug-of-war between the West and Russia over the future of the Western Balkans.

...“[We must] avoid that this political and institutional crisis becomes an inter-ethnic conflict or, even worse, a geopolitical one,” EU foreign relations chief Federica Mogherini said after meeting Ivanov in Skopje on Thursday.

...Nato head Jens Stoltenberg and the US ambassador to Macedonia, Jess L. Baily, echoed her views. “I look to the authorities in Skopje to fulfil the next step in the democratic process,” Stoltenberg said. Baily, who also met Ivanov, said his decision was “inconsistent with basic democratic principles and the rule of law which are core values of Nato.”

...The Russian foreign ministry said on Thursday that EU and Nato had caused the crisis and that they endorsed the creation of a “greater Albania” in the region. “The political crisis in Macedonia [was] provoked by the gross external interference in the country’s internal affairs,” Russia said.

...Some 15,000 supporters of former Macedonian prime minister Nikolai Gruevski and his VMRO-DPMNE party, which stands to lose power after 11 years in office, chanted anti-Albanian and anti-EU slogans such as “EU hands off Macedonia”. Gruevski won the most seats in the election, but his party, which is embroiled in a corruption scandal, failed to build a coalition.

Macedonia is home to some 500,000 ethnic Albanians who make up 25 percent of the population.

https://euobserver.com/foreign/137100

I will only add that although ethnic Albanian make up 25 percent of the official population(according to the census from 2002) they received only 17 percent of the votes. Census is needed but no one is willing to make it because of political repercussions of it.

One sword two blades and no democracy(as in the rest of Europe), no option to vote for no one. There wont be civil war as in Ukraine regardless of the outcome of Macedonian crisis.

P.S. I'm against Russian stance concerning the crisis in my country.
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Re: Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby Bernie Sanders on Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:52 pm

Macedonia is a cesspool of filth, corruption and bad food. No wonder Greece wants to keep their border closed to this septic field of a country.
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Re: Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:49 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:Macedonia is a cesspool of filth, corruption and bad food. No wonder Greece wants to keep their border closed to this septic field of a country.


you don't even know where Macedonia is
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Re: Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:53 pm

I read an article a while back saying that 90% of pro-Trump websites are based in this one Macedonian village where Google Adsense pays more than the GDP of the country.

It is a well-known truth that Croats are the only ex-Yugoslavians who were right.
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Re: Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby GoranZ on Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:40 am

DoomYoshi wrote:I read an article a while back saying that 90% of pro-Trump websites are based in this one Macedonian village where Google Adsense pays more than the GDP of the country.

This statement is extremely wrong... many pro trump sites were register from Macedonian town Veles, but the income from Google Ad-sense was probably not bigger then half a million $.
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Re: Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby betiko on Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:27 pm

Macedonia is an antique country. All this refers to FYR of Macedonia, some new stuff from the 90s, like vanilla ice and the tamagoshi
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Re: Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby 2dimes on Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:31 pm

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Re: Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby Qwert on Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:19 pm

its all ready been conflict in Macedonia (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) in 2001 and unfortunately Macedonians lost against Albanians, under pressure of EU and USA, they sign Ohrid Agreement.
Wit US and EU interference can not expect any good to happend.
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Re: Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby GoranZ on Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:13 am

Qwert wrote:its all ready been conflict in Macedonia (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) in 2001 and unfortunately Macedonians lost against Albanians, under pressure of EU and USA, they sign Ohrid Agreement.
Wit US and EU interference can not expect any good to happend.

Correct classification... Macedonian military victory, political defeat.

There wont be new war/unrest in Macedonia, Putin mixed the cards pretty good ;)
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Re: Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby Qwert on Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:10 pm

Its same like in 1999 in Yugoslavia- Military was not defeated but political disaster.
But situation change a lot- in 1999 and 2001 Russia had very weak army and bad economy, so NATO-EU-USA Powers dont have real opponent to stop hes policy of interference in other countries and causing many conflict. We will see what will now be when Russia are back and have some influence.
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Re: Macedonia the new Ukraine?

Postby PeteEsk on Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:13 am

wow poor Macedonia
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