Milo Yiannopoulos

[mrswdk]

Unlike certain other one-trick ponies, who'll just keep up with their gimmick regardless of the reaction (or lack of) that they get.

[Symmetry]

Unlike certain other one-trick ponies, who'll just keep up with their gimmick regardless of the reaction (or lack of) that they get.

Are you trying to make this a Trump thread again? I actually kind of found that funny, to be fair, and it was kinda cute how you white knighted for Milo.

I'll let you have your trick- the thread is yours, within reason.

[tzor]

I'm not really sure what conservatives really consider to be a racist action though anymore though. The bar has been set very very high.

I'm not sure myself, but I think it has to do with ... race?

LIBERAL: You hate people from Mexico ... You're RACIST.
CONSERVATIVE: But Mexico is a nation ... Mexican is a nationality ... it's not a race.
LIBERAL: RACIST!

[mrswdk]

So the conservative hates all Mexicans?

[nietzsche]

yeah... that came out of nowhere..

[Symmetry]

It is interesting that even in Tzor's fantasy scenario the Conservative doesn't object to the idea of hating Mexicans. They just object to being called a racist for doing so. Which I think kinda proves what I was saying.

[Symmetry]

Gotta love this though:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

So much sharp analysis:

Yiannopoulos followed the path of least resistance until, suddenly, it resisted. Now he knows just what it is to have the Internet turn on you and take away your control of the narrative. Now the entire alt-right is realizing, in full view of a few million popcorn-munching online leftists, that they were never the new punk. They were never the suave and seductive blackshirts of the new American authoritarianism. They are, at best, the brownshirts, and they are becoming less useful to their benefactors by the day. Where they were once “underground,” they are now are an ankle-biting embarrassment to the movement they made mainstream — and they have no clue what to do next.

[tzor]

It is interesting that even in Tzor's fantasy scenario the Conservative doesn't object to the idea of hating Mexicans.

Conservatives don't hate Mexicans. Really. how can you hate the slowest Spanish speaking peoples of the Americas? (I have been told Cubans are the fastest. I've personally clocked them doing a rosary at Mach 5.)

[Symmetry]

It is interesting that even in Tzor's fantasy scenario the Conservative doesn't object to the idea of hating Mexicans.

Conservatives don't hate Mexicans. Really. how can you hate the slowest Spanish speaking peoples of the Americas? (I have been told Cubans are the fastest. I've personally clocked them doing a rosary at Mach 5.)

Dude- it was your fantasy conversation:

LIBERAL: You hate people from Mexico ... You're RACIST.
CONSERVATIVE: But Mexico is a nation ... Mexican is a nationality ... it's not a race.
LIBERAL: RACIST!

And my full quote was:

It is interesting that even in Tzor's fantasy scenario the Conservative doesn't object to the idea of hating Mexicans.They just object to being called a racist for doing so. Which I think kinda proves what I was saying.

[Dukasaur]

Gotta love this though:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

So much sharp analysis:

Yiannopoulos followed the path of least resistance until, suddenly, it resisted. Now he knows just what it is to have the Internet turn on you and take away your control of the narrative. Now the entire alt-right is realizing, in full view of a few million popcorn-munching online leftists, that they were never the new punk. They were never the suave and seductive blackshirts of the new American authoritarianism. They are, at best, the brownshirts, and they are becoming less useful to their benefactors by the day. Where they were once “underground,” they are now are an ankle-biting embarrassment to the movement they made mainstream — and they have no clue what to do next.

A fascinating read.

[BoganGod]

Gotta love this though:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

So much sharp analysis:

Yiannopoulos followed the path of least resistance until, suddenly, it resisted. Now he knows just what it is to have the Internet turn on you and take away your control of the narrative. Now the entire alt-right is realizing, in full view of a few million popcorn-munching online leftists, that they were never the new punk. They were never the suave and seductive blackshirts of the new American authoritarianism. They are, at best, the brownshirts, and they are becoming less useful to their benefactors by the day. Where they were once “underground,” they are now are an ankle-biting embarrassment to the movement they made mainstream — and they have no clue what to do next.

A fascinating read.

Fascinating read. Though I think the argument that the anti fascists are in fact fascists is more logically coherent. Justifying and calling for violence against those you label as bad purely on their opinions not actions. Fascist 101, antifa, and the rest of the regressive hard left are thugs. Looting is not protest. Destruction of commonly owned, community owned, or privately owned property is not free speech.

[Symmetry]

Gotta love this though:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

So much sharp analysis:

Yiannopoulos followed the path of least resistance until, suddenly, it resisted. Now he knows just what it is to have the Internet turn on you and take away your control of the narrative. Now the entire alt-right is realizing, in full view of a few million popcorn-munching online leftists, that they were never the new punk. They were never the suave and seductive blackshirts of the new American authoritarianism. They are, at best, the brownshirts, and they are becoming less useful to their benefactors by the day. Where they were once “underground,” they are now are an ankle-biting embarrassment to the movement they made mainstream — and they have no clue what to do next.

A fascinating read.

It's a great piece of journalism. It actually made me feel sorry for the guys,

[BoganGod]

anyone?

[Dukasaur]

Gotta love this though:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

So much sharp analysis:

Yiannopoulos followed the path of least resistance until, suddenly, it resisted. Now he knows just what it is to have the Internet turn on you and take away your control of the narrative. Now the entire alt-right is realizing, in full view of a few million popcorn-munching online leftists, that they were never the new punk. They were never the suave and seductive blackshirts of the new American authoritarianism. They are, at best, the brownshirts, and they are becoming less useful to their benefactors by the day. Where they were once “underground,” they are now are an ankle-biting embarrassment to the movement they made mainstream — and they have no clue what to do next.

A fascinating read.

Fascinating read. Though I think the argument that the anti fascists are in fact fascists is more logically coherent. Justifying and calling for violence against those you label as bad purely on their opinions not actions. Fascist 101, antifa, and the rest of the regressive hard left are thugs. Looting is not protest. Destruction of commonly owned, community owned, or privately owned property is not free speech.

I don't think she was advocating violence against them, just reporting that it occurred.

To some degree I think did calling for shaming them, and if what she has to say about their emotional composition is correct, then that would be highly effective.

More than anything, though, I don't think she was calling for anything at all, just analyzing what has happened. Journalism isn't all about fomenting action. Sometimes it really is just about understanding what actions have happened.

[nietzsche]

Yiannopoulos exploits vulnerable young men in the same way that every wing-nut right-wing shock-jock from the president down has been exploiting them for years: by whipping up the fear and frustration of angry young men and boys who would rather burn down the world than learn to live in it like adults, by directing that affectless rage in service to their own fame and power. This is the sort of exploitation the entire conservative sphere is entirely comfortable with.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!

[nietzsche]

that's actually very soft, as if excusing them for being idiots and thinking being an idiot is awesome.

[mrswdk]

The only people who think Trump is going to 'burn down the world' are hysterical Buzzfeed journalists.

[nietzsche]

uhm.. you think she meant it literally, mrs wdk...


ok.

[mrswdk]

Yes I think the author meant a literal fire, like in Towering Inferno.

[nietzsche]

i see. it's not your fault mrs wdk. you're one of those new products of the earth, that come with a smartphone up their asses when they're born.

[mrswdk]

Well if you put it in your pocket it's just gonna get stolen.

[khazalid]

Well if you put it in your pocket it's just gonna get stolen.

spoken like a true mexican

[BoganGod]

Gotta love this though:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

So much sharp analysis:

Yiannopoulos followed the path of least resistance until, suddenly, it resisted. Now he knows just what it is to have the Internet turn on you and take away your control of the narrative. Now the entire alt-right is realizing, in full view of a few million popcorn-munching online leftists, that they were never the new punk. They were never the suave and seductive blackshirts of the new American authoritarianism. They are, at best, the brownshirts, and they are becoming less useful to their benefactors by the day. Where they were once “underground,” they are now are an ankle-biting embarrassment to the movement they made mainstream — and they have no clue what to do next.

A fascinating read.

Fascinating read. Though I think the argument that the anti fascists are in fact fascists is more logically coherent. Justifying and calling for violence against those you label as bad purely on their opinions not actions. Fascist 101, antifa, and the rest of the regressive hard left are thugs. Looting is not protest. Destruction of commonly owned, community owned, or privately owned property is not free speech.

I don't think she was advocating violence against them, just reporting that it occurred.

To some degree I think did calling for shaming them, and if what she has to say about their emotional composition is correct, then that would be highly effective.

More than anything, though, I don't think she was calling for anything at all, just analyzing what has happened. Journalism isn't all about fomenting action. Sometimes it really is just about understanding what actions have happened.

Wrong. Though it used to be right. Now journalism is about agenda pushing, dog whistling, virtue signalling, smearing, protecting vested interests, the legacy media is in trouble, the left leaning CNN fake news media and TIME are leading the race to the bottom. The old truism about there being three types of people.
Those that make things happen.
Those that watch things happen.
Those that wonder what happened.

The media used to be the 2nd type, now they are the 3rd type, wishing they were the 1st type.

[nietzsche]

i've heard this before but i really wonder if that is accurate. i mean not because i think it isn't but because i have no clue.

there is always a few good analysts, at least in mexico, that write decent columns, i'm sure it's the same in the US. but does it matter?

these guys (politicians) are using focus groups and attempting to go below the logical (if any) layer of possible voters. take trump for instance, he doesn't fucking care, he's watching fox news, knows that there are millions like him at the moment ad tweets about it. suddenly you have unicellular organisms nodding saying "fucking aye".

people don't logically think their vote. logic is the servant of the will.

i think the stupid ridiculing of trump every minute has its part to play, a guy not knowing much will see guys that appear to be smart doing ridiculing and with his insecurity will think maybe they're right.

[Dukasaur]

More than anything, though, I don't think she was calling for anything at all, just analyzing what has happened. Journalism isn't all about fomenting action. Sometimes it really is just about understanding what actions have happened.

Wrong. Though it used to be right. Now journalism is about agenda pushing, dog whistling, virtue signalling, smearing, protecting vested interests, the legacy media is in trouble, the left leaning CNN fake news media and TIME are leading the race to the bottom. The old truism about there being three types of people.
Those that make things happen.
Those that watch things happen.
Those that wonder what happened.

The media used to be the 2nd type, now they are the 3rd type, wishing they were the 1st type.

That's a huge over-generalization, as if "the media" was some kind of unified force. Journalists come from every point of view imaginable, just as people in general. There are obviously trends (a disproportionate number of journalists were fascinated by Ted Kennedy versus the general population) but there are always a multitude of exceptions. This is becoming more true rather than less, as the Internet allows people to self-publish and allows an almost infinite variety of different points of view.

i've heard this before but i really wonder if that is accurate. i mean not because i think it isn't but because i have no clue.

there is always a few good analysts, at least in mexico, that write decent columns, i'm sure it's the same in the US. but does it matter?

these guys (politicians) are using focus groups and attempting to go below the logical (if any) layer of possible voters. take trump for instance, he doesn't fucking care, he's watching fox news, knows that there are millions like him at the moment ad tweets about it. suddenly you have unicellular organisms nodding saying "fucking aye".

people don't logically think their vote. logic is the servant of the will.

i think the stupid ridiculing of trump every minute has its part to play, a guy not knowing much will see guys that appear to be smart doing ridiculing and with his insecurity will think maybe they're right.

I think you're making the same mistake as Bogan and assuming that a writer always needs to have an axe to grind. Maybe it's because you guys are young. I've realized that the job of drawing conclusions rests with the reader. All I expect from the writer is to paint an interesting picture. It's my job to decide what I see in it.