French presidential election (official thread)

[betiko]

Oh yeah, the three French left-wing candidates are now moving closer to an alliance ... https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/arti ... presidency.

Looks like Saxi's prediction will come true - the left-wing will unite and take second place in the first round, prompting Fillon voters to defect to Le Pen in the second. It looks like even the French markets agree as they're on a down trend - http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/17/marine-l ... arket.html.

Obama used the U.S. intelligence apparatus to interfere in the last French election ... now Trump controls the machinery of state and can unleash the great leviathan. In the run-up to the vote expect France to get squeezed from the west when Trump activates the hundreds of American sleeper agents staged across Europe. Meanwhile, Russia will keep doing what it's doing to sink Marcon.

It will be like two boa constricters squeezing the same prey - Gallic is on the menu!

Lol, your lack of knowledge of the background and personality of melanchon and hamon could make you think that they are two reasonable people, but the fact is that they will not resign and merge. They will just try to steal each other s voters. Not to mention the Hamon pro EU voters that would move to Macron in case of a Melanchon-Hamon ticket.
Also, a very significant amount of fillon voters would rather vote hamon+melanchon rather than le pen.

As I said... this is a game where everybody would gang u on le pen no matter what. She can complain all she wants, sorry about her little butt.

[mrswdk]

Oh yeah, the three French left-wing candidates are now moving closer to an alliance ...
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/arti ... presidency.

Here's to 2017 being every bit as awesome as 2016

[betiko]

Oh yeah, the three French left-wing candidates are now moving closer to an alliance ...
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/arti ... presidency.

Here's to 2017 being every bit as awesome as 2016

Check out the poll, and imagine it s my hand pointing at you. Yes, 90 degrees the other way.

[mrswdk]

I can't see the poll you're talking about but I assume you're looking for a high five.

Well high five, buddy!

[betiko]

So the ecologist candidate rallied Hamon (he had like 0,5% intentions of votes on him, big deal), and it s pretty certain that Mélanchon will not given what they are saying lately.

Le Pen is feeling the heat on her, and she just refused to go to an audition with the legal police regarding the money she used from the EU, and she isn t giving back that money either.

Macron has just been rallied by Bayrou, the leader of the centrist party that hadn t announced the candidacy of his party yet.

Fillon still isn t able to find a credible defense.

In case of second round le pen vs fillon or macron, it is now said that she would only lose 40-60 while it was more of a 30-70 defeat a few month ago

[mrswdk]

The front-running French centrist presidential candidate is now under formal investigation.

So now we have:
- An anti-Establishment candidate riding high on a wave of popular discontent
- An Establishment candidate who is both boring and a criminal
- A bunch of nobodies who are just there to make up the numbers

Is the American election 2016 French election 2017 a done deal? We'll have to wait and see!

[waauw]

The front-running French centrist presidential candidate is now under formal investigation.

So now we have:
- An anti-Establishment candidate riding high on a wave of popular discontent
- An Establishment candidate who is both boring and a criminal
- A bunch of nobodies who are just there to make up the numbers

Is the American election 2016 French election 2017 a done deal? We'll have to wait and see!

Fillon is not the centrist candidate.

[betiko]

my name is mrswdk and i don't understand shit as always! yay

[riskllama]

she's from China. free elections are still a bit of a novelty to her, I'm guessing.

[betiko]

she's from China. free elections are still a bit of a novelty to her, I'm guessing.

I'm pretty sure your guess is right! go taiwan!

[xtratabasco]

Conquer Club successfully predicted Donald Trump would become President of North America.

ha ha, you must be a racist!!!....... you werent paying attention were you??

the group here were pro hillary 4 to 1

[BoganGod]

Conquer Club successfully predicted Donald Trump would become President of North America.

ha ha, you must be a racist!!!....... you werent paying attention were you??

the group here were pro hillary 4 to 1

Look who is back. Welcome back basco/confedSS/warmong, your unique voice has been missed. Mookie has been asking about your health.

[betiko]

Well there you go wankers!

LePen vs Macron, which means Macron is the new president. So what's it gonna be, a victory by 70% on the second round?
Anything below 66-33 will be shocking

[saxitoxin]

DID YOU VOTE, BETIKO?!

[betiko]

DID YOU VOTE, BETIKO?!

Yes, sorry but no marsipan rittersport for you!

[riskllama]

i bet that's what he's storing in those waterproof totes of his. that, and nazi gold...

[GoranZ]

[Donelladan]

Well there you go wankers!

LePen vs Macron, which means Macron is the new president. So what's it gonna be, a victory by 70% on the second round?
Anything below 66-33 will be shocking

Don't be so sure. Abstention will be massive. It could be close.
Lepen will play people against elite. She'll be partly right ( Macron represent the elite , but she doesn't represent people).
People want change. Trump and Brexit are the same symptom, people are sick of the current system.

And Macron just made a mistake on Sunday evening that will help Lepen playing this card.

Most people I know won't vote. The others didn't decide yet. I guess if the poll are saying Macron is winning easily, most of those who did not decide won't go voting either. Many remember Chirac and how he didn't care that he won thanks to the left vote. They don't want to have to experience that again.

Let's hope Macron doesn't make more mistakes.
Also, there is some smart one at the FN, I mean Florian Philipot is really good, if Lepen is able to keep caged Collard, her niece etc.. all the real extrem right, she might appear good.

Lepen migtht also try to turn this election into referendum for Europe, since how Macron was the only candidate ( with Hamon) openly pro European.

Last point, Macron really suck big time during previous debate, if Lepen is able to smash him 3rd of may ( the presidential debate), anything can happen.

[waauw]

Well there you go wankers!

LePen vs Macron, which means Macron is the new president. So what's it gonna be, a victory by 70% on the second round?
Anything below 66-33 will be shocking

Don't be so sure. Abstention will be massive. It could be close.
Lepen will play people against elite. She'll be partly right ( Macron represent the elite , but she doesn't represent people).
People want change. Trump and Brexit are the same symptom, people are sick of the current system.

And Macron just made a mistake on Sunday evening that will help Lepen playing this card.

Most people I know won't vote. The others didn't decide yet. I guess if the poll are saying Macron is winning easily, most of those who did not decide won't go voting either. Many remember Chirac and how he didn't care that he won thanks to the left vote. They don't want to have to experience that again.

Let's hope Macron doesn't make more mistakes.
Also, there is some smart one at the FN, I mean Florian Philipot is really good, if Lepen is able to keep caged Collard, her niece etc.. all the real extrem right, she might appear good.

Lepen migtht also try to turn this election into referendum for Europe, since how Macron was the only candidate ( with Hamon) openly pro European.

Last point, Macron really suck big time during previous debate, if Lepen is able to smash him 3rd of may ( the presidential debate), anything can happen.

Wasn't Fillon openly pro European as well? Sarkozy-style? Anyway, unlike Trump who had months, Le Pen only has 2 weeks to bridge 22% and abstention would prove to be a problem for Le Pen as well. She's the one running behind and has to tap out of the large number of abstention votes.

Comme l'atteste notre graphique fondé sur les estimations Ifop, Marine Le Pen arrache près d'un tiers des électeurs de François Fillon mais seulement 19% des soutiens de Jean-Luc Mélenchon. L'essentiel des électeurs de Benoît Hamon se reporteront sur le candidat En Marche!.

Tout l'enjeu pour Marine Le Pen est donc de faire ployer ces intentions de report en sa faveur, en allant puiser dans le réservoir important d'abstentionnistes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2017/04/24/sondages-pour-le-second-tour-de-la-presidentielle-2017-ce-graph_a_22053839/

[betiko]

Well there you go wankers!

LePen vs Macron, which means Macron is the new president. So what's it gonna be, a victory by 70% on the second round?
Anything below 66-33 will be shocking

Don't be so sure. Abstention will be massive. It could be close.
Lepen will play people against elite. She'll be partly right ( Macron represent the elite , but she doesn't represent people).
People want change. Trump and Brexit are the same symptom, people are sick of the current system.

And Macron just made a mistake on Sunday evening that will help Lepen playing this card.

Most people I know won't vote. The others didn't decide yet. I guess if the poll are saying Macron is winning easily, most of those who did not decide won't go voting either. Many remember Chirac and how he didn't care that he won thanks to the left vote. They don't want to have to experience that again.

Let's hope Macron doesn't make more mistakes.
Also, there is some smart one at the FN, I mean Florian Philipot is really good, if Lepen is able to keep caged Collard, her niece etc.. all the real extrem right, she might appear good.

Lepen migtht also try to turn this election into referendum for Europe, since how Macron was the only candidate ( with Hamon) openly pro European.

Last point, Macron really suck big time during previous debate, if Lepen is able to smash him 3rd of may ( the presidential debate), anything can happen.

Philipot really good?
Macron really sucks? Massive abstention, and people around you are not going to vote or are not sure who to vote for? That s probably because you come from one of villages from the north where everyone is related

Your assclown candidate isn't even able to tell to his electors to go vote for Macron against the extremist witch. I mean he's all about Venezuela and Maduro, what were we supposed to wait from this clown.. which leads to what I've told you before: extreme left such as Melenchon is no better than LePen.

If you communist wankers can't lift up your sorry asses to go vote massively against fascism, well I hope it will be a good wank at least. So much talking, if you can't see the difference between a center left candidate and an extreme right, well you guys are just proving that it's just pointless to talk about politics and the real world.

[riskllama]

France has hillbillies, too? Poland? sure. didn't know France had em, too...

[mrswdk]

betiko's getting angry. He's starting to feel the burn.

[Donelladan]

Philipot really good?
Macron really sucks? Massive abstention, and people around you are not going to vote or are not sure who to vote for? That s probably because you come from one of villages from the north where everyone is related

Your assclown candidate isn't even able to tell to his electors to go vote for Macron against the extremist witch. I mean he's all about Venezuela and Maduro, what were we supposed to wait from this clown.. which leads to what I've told you before: extreme left such as Melenchon is no better than LePen.

If you communist wankers can't lift up your sorry asses to go vote massively against fascism, well I hope it will be a good wank at least. So much talking, if you can't see the difference between a center left candidate and an extreme right, well you guys are just proving that it's just pointless to talk about politics and the real world.

Wow, really ? My post was factual, you are being arrogant and disrespectful, and also spreading basic right-wing bs propaganda ( venezuela maduro seriously ).
Everyone knows that Macron wasn't good during the debate. He isn't experienced. So yes he sucked during the 1st debate. Only hard core macron supporters found him good. The only one as bad as Macron was Hamon. Lepen, Fillon et Mélenchon were better. Period.
You are predicting 66-33% as the lowest score, I am just letting you know of the possible scenario. If he suck big time during the debate, then it could be close. We'll see maybe he will be good.

Be aware that's the 1st turn is over and we ( left) aren't your opponent. If Macron's supporter behave the same way than you do a bit more and you are going to hand it over to Lepen (I listened his representative on radio tuesday morning, he was just as much an arrogant ass as you).

My "assclown" candidate gathered 20% of the vote, your fucking liberal puppet only gather 24%. You maybe need a bit of humility.
I'll vote for Macron 2nd turn. But I've got to stop speaking to fucktard liberal or I'll just change my mind.

And yes, Philippot is really good communicant, he is smart, make sensible argument, or at least he is able to make them sound sensible. I totally disagree with him, but just listen to him, he never make mistake unlike the other member of Lepen's party.


Now wanna talk about the real world ? Maybe you should start wonder why people are voting massively for the far-right rather than attacking realist alternative project to the current system. Then maybe your candidate would finally be able to reduce Lepen's vote rather than increasing it.

[Donelladan]

Oh, and have a look at waauw polls, there is way more people from Fillon's party that are going to vote for Lepen than from Mélechon wasn't it you saying you would have vote Fillon if it wasn't for the affairs ? maybe rather than insulting us ( "If you communist wankers can't lift up your sorry asses to go vote massively against fascism, well I hope it will be a good wank at least.") maybe you start talking to your friend from the right wing:)

Yeah, in my village in which we f*ck each other and all belong to the same familiy, I don't know anyone voting Lepen 2nd turn ( but I don't know anyone voting FIllon 1st turn so maybe that explain it).

[BoganGod]

Oh, and have a look at waauw polls, there is way more people from Fillon's party that are going to vote for Lepen than from Mélechon wasn't it you saying you would have vote Fillon if it wasn't for the affairs ? maybe rather than insulting us ( "If you communist wankers can't lift up your sorry asses to go vote massively against fascism, well I hope it will be a good wank at least.") maybe you start talking to your friend from the right wing:)

Yeah, in my village in which we f*ck each other and all belong to the same familiy, I don't know anyone voting Lepen 2nd turn ( but I don't know anyone voting FIllon 1st turn so maybe that explain it).

Your village sounds like the type of fun that Betiko left France because his type of self loathing doesn't like feeling happy. He was enjoying himself too much sharing his sister/aunt/wife with his brother/nephew/grandfather! Jokes aside, I want to know how the real crazy folks are voting. Briton voted how? How about the almost crazy people in Normandy? Did they vote at all, or was cider the winner again.