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Postby Symmetry on Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:36 pm

2dimes wrote:The truth is this. Even though there are some decent people like me that would abolish racism. It can't be done. Too much misinformation and fear drives it.

That racism would be there with Hillary. Look how much worse things got with Obama in office. Some even blame him like you are trying to blame the new guy.

The United States of America was founded on the same colonial principals as Mexico and Canada, they just realized, "We're making this colony great. Let's create a country!" and broke off from England.

It's easy to get people to be racist. Just tell them a group of people are doing things to keep you down and let fear make it seem real. You hate people that speak English and have more money than you, right?


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Postby nietzsche on Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:40 pm

why would i hate people who speak english and/or have more money than me?

hating people that have more money than me would create a mental conflict that would prevent me from copying their wealth acquiring behaviour, so logically i wouldn't do it. some of them, when acquire enough wealth try to exert power over government to be favored in policies, and this something fucks up other people. that is just factual.


i think we're a approaching a moment in the history of our human civilization in which we will have the opportunity to master the resources and the production of energy, allowing everyone in the whole earth to have a decent life. it's up to us to decide if we're gonna take the opportunity or we're going to keep living under this stupid system of wars and hatred and fear. there are talks more of universal income because some are seeing that it will be a necessity when robots start to do all the work.


but if we continue with this stupid racism and hatred and war of religions, we will never get there. i don't see why we need to be like that.
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Postby Symmetry on Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:47 pm

Try to write within the margins, Nietz
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Postby saxitoxin on Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:47 am

2dimes wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
2dimes wrote:
nietzsche wrote:small news when you have a president that discredits his intelligence agencies, considers the press the enemy of the US and gets his intel from Fox News.


Do you really think drumph is doing anything that will affect anything radically for his term? His election just further proves the office is just a distraction, so the global elites can function better, while you complain about the "president."


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Ok, I think the coast is clear.

Seriously, do you really think they would let Bill or Dubya have the "nuke codes"? PUSA is just a figure head puppet position. Obama is my favorite so far, did you even hear of that guy before he suddenly came out of the senator pool and beat Hillary to get the job?


I just got former White House Military Director Bill Gulley's 1980 book from Amazon. I enjoyed this passage:

    In the White House, you never worry about the law. I never worried about the law, about breaking the law. My thinking was, if the President wants it done, it's right. Say you are talking to the chief of staff about a project. And whatever you're talking about is legal because everything's legal.
Also, this interview where he talks about Mr. Wong, Lyndon Johnson's Chinese slave - https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4657955/
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:04 am

I hope you made an error with that link Saxi, but fear you intended that as support for Herr Drumpht. Really it supports my theory, that he is a figure head to distract us while things actually get done behind the scenes, though you can argue what they are doing is public and only happening because of him being in office.

Excuse me while I think the "2% Romanian defense budget increase" is not as critical to the impending "American economic recovery" the banks are going to cause, as they would like me to believe.

why would i hate people who speak english and/or have more money than me?

Fear. Which was not only misplaced. I don't even have money. My wife might.


i think we're a approaching a moment in the history of our human civilization in which we will have the opportunity to master the resources and the production of energy, allowing everyone in the whole earth to have a decent life. it's up to us to decide if we're gonna take the opportunity or we're going to keep living under this stupid system of wars and hatred and fear. there are talks more of universal income because some are seeing that it will be a necessity when robots start to do all the work.


but if we continue with this stupid racism and hatred and war of religions, we will never get there. i don't see why we need to be like that.

I agree, in fact I believe we could have easily done such a thing back after ww II.

The elites would not have it. The United States was made great while much of the world watched.

Also they were a peaceful nation, even for a period after that war, being late to join and helping to defeat the "bad guys." Now, there are a lot of people hating them for going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. No one is upset with the former USSR for helping start Afghanistan.

Back to the internal us racism problem, look at the last couple of centuries. Lincoln may have freed the slaves. There was still some pretty nasty treatment of African Americans for a long time. Things got better but very slowly.

Sure there were decent people all along but in the first half of the 1900s the laws supported dehumanizing people over skin colour. The laws!

Think about that. In many parts of the United States of America. Arguably the best place in the world to live in in 1920. I could get in serious trouble for welcoming Owenshooter* into a rastaurant I ran owned by Saxi, and serving him a meal. That is unimaginable to me being fourtunate to live in the time and place I have, yet it is simply a fact.

Every decade things improved little by little until the 1990s when it actually, finally but briefly became cool to be yourself. Mixed racial company was ok for several years. Under the surface the divisions were still there.

Now there is a new division. Finally Kanye is taking over the world and it's popular to make a young light coloured person feel guilty, because their great grand parents may or may not have been an asshole, when all the racist "whites only" "no blacks" laws made the terms black and white. Replacing the truth that we are all shades in between.

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Postby 2dimes on Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:08 am

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nietzsche wrote:small news when you have a president that discredits his intelligence agencies, considers the press the enemy of the US and gets his intel from fox news.


Trump just knows what he needs to say to his audience, that's all.


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Postby KoolBak on Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:11 am

You've travelled here Dimey....you seen a problem with racism? I am 53 and grew up here....I haven't. Guess I'm lucky to live in oregon.

You all are very entertaining stressing so severely about what we do....makes me feel special :lol:
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:25 am

KoolBak wrote: Guess I'm lucky to live in oregon.

That is what I said, time and place.

An essential part of racism is showing a video of something happening in Los Angeles and my cousin here commenting, "I'm so glad I live in Canada." On friendface.

Lumping you in with every other "white American" supports/fuels the "us versus them" agenda.
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Postby nietzsche on Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:37 am

2dimes wrote:I hope you made an error with that link Saxi, but fear you intended that as support for Herr Drumpht. Really it supports my theory, that he is a figure head to distract us while things actually get done behind the scenes, though you can argue what they are doing is public and only happening because of him being in office.

Excuse me while I think the "2% Romanian defense budget increase" is not as critical to the impending "American economic recovery" the banks are going to cause, as they would like me to believe.

why would i hate people who speak english and/or have more money than me?

Fear. Which was not only misplaced. I don't even have money. My wife might.


i think we're a approaching a moment in the history of our human civilization in which we will have the opportunity to master the resources and the production of energy, allowing everyone in the whole earth to have a decent life. it's up to us to decide if we're gonna take the opportunity or we're going to keep living under this stupid system of wars and hatred and fear. there are talks more of universal income because some are seeing that it will be a necessity when robots start to do all the work.


but if we continue with this stupid racism and hatred and war of religions, we will never get there. i don't see why we need to be like that.

I agree, in fact I believe we could have easily done such a thing back after ww II.

The elites would not have it. The United States was made great while much of the world watched.

Also they were a peaceful nation, even for a period after that war, being late to join and helping to defeat the "bad guys." Now, there are a lot of people hating them for going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. No one is upset with the former USSR for helping start Afghanistan.

Back to the internal us racism problem, look at the last couple of centuries. Lincoln may have freed the slaves. There was still some pretty nasty treatment of African Americans for a long time. Things got better but very slowly.

Sure there were decent people all along but in the first half of the 1900s the laws supported dehumanizing people over skin colour. The laws!

Think about that. In many parts of the United States of America. Arguably the best place in the world to live in in 1920. I could get in serious trouble for welcoming Owenshooter* into a rastaurant I ran owned by Saxi, and serving him a meal. That is unimaginable to me being fourtunate to live in the time and place I have, yet it is simply a fact.

Every decade things improved little by little until the 1990s when it actually, finally but briefly became cool to be yourself. Mixed racial company was ok for several years. Under the surface the divisions were still there.

Now there is a new division. Finally Kanye is taking over the world and it's popular to make a young light coloured person feel guilty, because their great grand parents may or may not have been an asshole, when all the racist "whites only" "no blacks" laws made the terms black and white. Replacing the truth that we are all shades in between.

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this is getting weird. it seems to me as if there are many getting upset about what i've been saying. i need to know if i'm expressing myself incorrectly or what's the matter. because it seems very obvious to me.

the "racism" part is what people seem to be more upset, if i'm not mistaken, or maybe the trump stuff.

i've always considered that racism is a problem that is slowly going away, with new generations that grow up playing with kids of different races. and i know there's still a large amount of people that is racist but doesn't matter, they will turn to dust and hopefully their kids aren't much damaged.

but mostly because prestige imitation moves you in that direction, when in the background there's a voice that say racism is bad, let's all get along. but if you change that for a voice like trumps.. what's real any more? you can be bigoted, you can be racist, you can be a bully, you get to be president anyway. or is this in doubt yet? are we past this point or not? are we still deciding if trump is all those things?

now, i haven't been in the US in a while, but then you tell me, didn't ~60 million people vote for trump? 50% of voters did. now, you can take a optimistically large percentage of those who voted not necessarily for trump, but against hillary, let's make it a 20%. still there's still a lot of people who voted for trump. and who are these people? am i wrong to assume that what i see in tv is what these guys are? now, if you tell me these are actors.. that i've been mislead, fine. i'll take that back.

but it turns out that since the trump shit started, people have directed at me the most curious comments in GC for being mexican, this has happened 5-6 times. and i'm talking of trump supporters. now i don't mind, if i did i would have reported. in fact i have fun with those comments and idiots. I want to make clear this is not like the comments i get here, which are all fun and which i encourage. these are comments that are coming to surface because these guys feel so brave now, they feel the discuorse going to their veins, it's all right! america will be great again!... heil hitler?

i don't see why you guys need a president like trump. i don't know politics, i might don't know the US, but trump is not a good guy. anyone that is capable of that divide, is not a good guy.

we were laughing of owen right, because he saw racism everywhere.. we discussed it. and now, is like the 4th time one of you guys quietly put me there. obviously it bothers me, and makes me think.. am i wrong? i understand the reasons why we were laughing before.. but am i wrong in this? i don't think so, racism still existed but everything was fine because the general direction was that racism was not ok, so, those who can't help it were just simply die eventually right? i'm not so sure anymore.

i never claim to know more than anyone, i just see what i see. i think this all "relax, trump is just there to fill the seat, he's of no importance" is the rationalization coming after the will.
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Postby nietzsche on Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:02 pm

i forgot to mention that i understand why racism exists. as you mention it has to do a lot with fear, and it's natural that we see a difference with those who behave differently than us do. but it's a sacrifice we have to make, to learn and overcome that fear because we share the world and being one way or another doesn't give you the right to f*ck others. we're all in this together, we were all thrown into existence without being asked.

i have a general idea as to in what direction we have to move in order to become a better civilization, and there's no place for racism in it. i think we all have our dramas in our heads, but we should continue to strive in that direction.

my dad was racist, at least my sister says, i didn't get to know him. my sister says that often a black guy in a red convertible visited him, they'd share info of some sort and then he left. and my dad would make racist comments after he left and would wash his hands. apparently, my sister says, he had to work with that guy, they were both working for the us government. my mom would mock him asking him why didn't he say anything in front of him, because apparently the black guy was like 6'5". i don't know what to make of this other than it happens. my dad was racist but married a mexican woman. go figure.
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Postby nietzsche on Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:25 pm

i saw it llama.
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Postby riskllama on Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:33 pm

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Postby 2dimes on Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:51 pm

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Postby 2dimes on Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:09 pm

There is no doubt you notice this election has somehow empowered some racist talk. Many are claiming Trump is the reason.

Many are going further and calling him a racist.

Can you show some video of actions or him speaking as a racist. Please be specific, maybe I just missed it. I have seen a fair amount of him being a misogynist. If he was saying racist things I am sure someone would have come forward with a recording.
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Postby nietzsche on Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:14 pm

2dimes wrote:There is no doubt you notice this election has somehow empowered some racist talk. Many are claiming Trump is the reason.

Many are going further and calling him a racist.

Can you show some video of actions or him speaking as a racist. Please be specific, maybe I just missed it. I have seen a fair amount of him being a misogynist. If he was saying racist things I am sure someone would have come forward with a recording.


there's the story about how in his apartment building, they were actively trying to avoid having black people renting.
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:23 pm

He got elected by telling stories. Some of them are better than that one.


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Postby 2dimes on Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:41 pm

but am i wrong in this? i don't think so, racism still existed but everything was fine because the general direction was that racism was not ok, so, those who can't help it were just simply die eventually right? i'm not so sure anymore.


Yeah, unfortunately. I know how you feel too.

I felt like racism was going to just disappear if we made it passed Y2K. At the end of the last century it really looked like the concept of mistreating a person because of skin colour or even social differences was finally too rediculas to carry on.

Don't give up. Keep on being a good person and encourage everyone to change for the best.

now, this is like the 4th time one of you guys quietly put me there. obviously it bothers me,

I was only teasing that you hated me because you wrote that as a joke when you chickened out of letting me come visit. I never thought you really hated anyone.
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Postby riskllama on Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:51 pm

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Postby Symmetry on Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:17 pm

2dimes wrote:There is no doubt you notice this election has somehow empowered some racist talk. Many are claiming Trump is the reason.

Many are going further and calling him a racist.

Can you show some video of actions or him speaking as a racist. Please be specific, maybe I just missed it. I have seen a fair amount of him being a misogynist. If he was saying racist things I am sure someone would have come forward with a recording.


Trump? Or Milo? Both have said some pretty awful things. I'm not really sure what conservatives really consider to be a racist action though anymore though. The bar has been set very very high.
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Postby riskllama on Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:51 pm

saw that milo dude on bill maher. milo = idiot.
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Postby nietzsche on Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:51 pm

Symmetry wrote:
2dimes wrote:There is no doubt you notice this election has somehow empowered some racist talk. Many are claiming Trump is the reason.

Many are going further and calling him a racist.

Can you show some video of actions or him speaking as a racist. Please be specific, maybe I just missed it. I have seen a fair amount of him being a misogynist. If he was saying racist things I am sure someone would have come forward with a recording.


Trump? Or Milo? Both have said some pretty awful things. I'm not really sure what conservatives really consider to be a racist action though anymore though. The bar has been set very very high.


get out of here. i think you're the racist for seeing racism where there isn't. trump is just being trump, he's harmless. you think he has so much power? you libtard, you suck up libtard media, throw your arms up in the air and yelling rape. it's time you libtards learn the truth, the world is not made of rainbows. trump will change everything, he will get rid of the establishment and will help those without a job. jobs, 25 dls at hour in manufacturing, no schooling needed. i think you give too much importance to trump's tweets, he doesn't mean exactly that, but you get the idea. he's a smart man.

i think you need to get out of your little magic libtard world Symmetry.
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Postby Symmetry on Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:13 am

riskllama wrote:saw that milo dude on bill maher. milo = idiot.


He's not exactly the sharpest kind of guy. That's the thing with guys with a gimmick- it works until it doesn't, then he's left scrambling, confused saying "but it always worked before.
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