Obama commutes Chelsea Manning's sentence

[saxitoxin]

[you're] weird

[you're] loopy

your weird rants

someone needs to check Symm's battery, please

thank you

[patches70]

Not only does sym not appear to know the difference between commute and pardon, he is also seems to not be aware of the difference between giving medical treatment and posing in hospital scrubs for a photo op.

#sad

[BoganGod]

Not only does sym not appear to know the difference between commute and pardon, he is also seems to not be aware of the difference between giving medical treatment and posing in hospital scrubs for a photo op.

#sad

Nuances of language are lost on poor deplorable DSOIV. He/she/ze/zith/thou finds words that are items and actions difficult. Shit for example. This little sentence - Shit here. Confuses the poor dear, as he can't conceptualise that such a simple sentence could mean two things. Poor rabbit.

[patches70]

It also appears that sym doesn't know what a rant is either.

#knowledgegapedsym

[BoganGod]

It also appears that sym doesn't know what a rant is either.

#knowledgegapedsym

That is atypical of the regressive left. They know what a whine is, what a virtue signal pout is, and a few other useless types of public bad behaviour.

[notyou2]

I don't get it. Manning was arrested, tried and imprisoned while Obama was in power, and now years after Manning first got sent to prison Obama suddenly decides to just cancel the rest of the sentence a couple of days before he leaves office? Is Obama saying he fucked up by allowing the state to maliciously prosecute someone who should never have been sent to jail in the first place, or is he saying Manning should have gone to jail but now he's going to let Manning walk without serving hir entire sentence, just because funsies?

I think he's always been sympathetic to her plight, but as long as there was a chance that it could hurt Hillary's chances in the election, he couldn't risk pissing off the war hawks by going easy on her. Now that Hillary's dead and buried, there's no longer any votes to worry about, so he can do the right thing.

I mean it's been six years since Bradley Manning first got arrested. He's had a lot of time to step in if he really wanted to.

That's beside the point though. Like, if Obama is going to oversee Manning getting arrested, tried, found guilty, sentenced, and spending several years in prison, and then after all that decide the punishment was too much and just cancel the rest of it, then why does America even have judges? Clearly the entire criminal justice system dropped the ball by giving Manning a sentence that Obama knows was unfair just by looking at it. What's the point in letting those idiots decide things when Obama clearly knows better? Why not just run every case by the president and let him decide with a simple swing of his thumb?

There is a BIG difference between the civil judicial system and the military judicial system.

[Symmetry]

I don't get it. Manning was arrested, tried and imprisoned while Obama was in power, and now years after Manning first got sent to prison Obama suddenly decides to just cancel the rest of the sentence a couple of days before he leaves office? Is Obama saying he fucked up by allowing the state to maliciously prosecute someone who should never have been sent to jail in the first place, or is he saying Manning should have gone to jail but now he's going to let Manning walk without serving hir entire sentence, just because funsies?

I think he's always been sympathetic to her plight, but as long as there was a chance that it could hurt Hillary's chances in the election, he couldn't risk pissing off the war hawks by going easy on her. Now that Hillary's dead and buried, there's no longer any votes to worry about, so he can do the right thing.

I mean it's been six years since Bradley Manning first got arrested. He's had a lot of time to step in if he really wanted to.

That's beside the point though. Like, if Obama is going to oversee Manning getting arrested, tried, found guilty, sentenced, and spending several years in prison, and then after all that decide the punishment was too much and just cancel the rest of it, then why does America even have judges? Clearly the entire criminal justice system dropped the ball by giving Manning a sentence that Obama knows was unfair just by looking at it. What's the point in letting those idiots decide things when Obama clearly knows better? Why not just run every case by the president and let him decide with a simple swing of his thumb?

There is a BIG difference between the civil judicial system and the military judicial system.

Mrsdwk probably doesn't know who the commander in chief of the US military is (or was, at the time). He's likely also unaware of Obama's background in law. He gets confused when it comes to systems of government.

[saxitoxin]

I don't get it. Manning was arrested, tried and imprisoned while Obama was in power, and now years after Manning first got sent to prison Obama suddenly decides to just cancel the rest of the sentence a couple of days before he leaves office? Is Obama saying he fucked up by allowing the state to maliciously prosecute someone who should never have been sent to jail in the first place, or is he saying Manning should have gone to jail but now he's going to let Manning walk without serving hir entire sentence, just because funsies?

I think he's always been sympathetic to her plight, but as long as there was a chance that it could hurt Hillary's chances in the election, he couldn't risk pissing off the war hawks by going easy on her. Now that Hillary's dead and buried, there's no longer any votes to worry about, so he can do the right thing.

I mean it's been six years since Bradley Manning first got arrested. He's had a lot of time to step in if he really wanted to.

That's beside the point though. Like, if Obama is going to oversee Manning getting arrested, tried, found guilty, sentenced, and spending several years in prison, and then after all that decide the punishment was too much and just cancel the rest of it, then why does America even have judges? Clearly the entire criminal justice system dropped the ball by giving Manning a sentence that Obama knows was unfair just by looking at it. What's the point in letting those idiots decide things when Obama clearly knows better? Why not just run every case by the president and let him decide with a simple swing of his thumb?

There is a BIG difference between the civil judicial system and the military judicial system.

Mrsdwk probably doesn't know who the commander in chief of the US military is (or was, at the time). He's likely also unaware of Obama's background in law. He gets confused when it comes to systems of government.

excuse me ... mrswdk identifies as female

the fact she has the third biggest dick I've ever seen doesn't mean you can start throwing around "he"

[Symmetry]

I don't get it. Manning was arrested, tried and imprisoned while Obama was in power, and now years after Manning first got sent to prison Obama suddenly decides to just cancel the rest of the sentence a couple of days before he leaves office? Is Obama saying he fucked up by allowing the state to maliciously prosecute someone who should never have been sent to jail in the first place, or is he saying Manning should have gone to jail but now he's going to let Manning walk without serving hir entire sentence, just because funsies?

I think he's always been sympathetic to her plight, but as long as there was a chance that it could hurt Hillary's chances in the election, he couldn't risk pissing off the war hawks by going easy on her. Now that Hillary's dead and buried, there's no longer any votes to worry about, so he can do the right thing.

I mean it's been six years since Bradley Manning first got arrested. He's had a lot of time to step in if he really wanted to.

That's beside the point though. Like, if Obama is going to oversee Manning getting arrested, tried, found guilty, sentenced, and spending several years in prison, and then after all that decide the punishment was too much and just cancel the rest of it, then why does America even have judges? Clearly the entire criminal justice system dropped the ball by giving Manning a sentence that Obama knows was unfair just by looking at it. What's the point in letting those idiots decide things when Obama clearly knows better? Why not just run every case by the president and let him decide with a simple swing of his thumb?

There is a BIG difference between the civil judicial system and the military judicial system.

Mrsdwk probably doesn't know who the commander in chief of the US military is (or was, at the time). He's likely also unaware of Obama's background in law. He gets confused when it comes to systems of government.

excuse me ... mrswdk identifies as female

Since when?

[riskllama]

since forever, pretty much. thought gay dudes were supposed to be a little better a picking up on that shit than their hetero counterparts...

[Symmetry]

since forever, pretty much. thought gay dudes were supposed to be a little better a picking up on that shit than their hetero counterparts...

Seriously, since when? You're not simply going by the first three letters of his username, are you?

[saxitoxin]

since forever, pretty much. thought gay dudes were supposed to be a little better a picking up on that shit than their hetero counterparts...

Seriously, since when? You're not simply going by the first three letters of his username, are you?

HER username - and no ...

If I were a virile white male and not a graceful Chinese lady I would beat that pussy like Tweety Bird.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=220571&p=4870092&hilit=+chinese+lady+#p4870092

I'm Mrs WDK, a sexy young Chinese lady.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=203222&p=4835269&hilit=+chinese+lady+#p4835269

That said, it made me sad that Symm was not accepting of gender identity and demanded written proof for mrswdk. What's next, is he going to require mrswdk show her CC account registration certificate before entering the forums? Unfair!

[BoganGod]

since forever, pretty much. thought gay dudes were supposed to be a little better a picking up on that shit than their hetero counterparts...

Seriously, since when? You're not simply going by the first three letters of his username, are you?

HER username - and no ...

If I were a virile white male and not a graceful Chinese lady I would beat that pussy like Tweety Bird.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=220571&p=4870092&hilit=+chinese+lady+#p4870092

I'm Mrs WDK, a sexy young Chinese lady.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=203222&p=4835269&hilit=+chinese+lady+#p4835269

That said, it made me sad that Symm was not accepting of gender identity and demanded written proof for mrswdk. What's next, is he going to require mrswdk show her CC account registration certificate before entering the forums? Unfair!

Reprehensible SJW bastards like DSOIV play gender politics and are very selective with what passes in their crazy version of reality. If Mrs said they were a transexual demi girl with neuter/femi pronouns DSOIV would be honour bound to defend her to the end, and not question a thing. Since DSOIV and his/her/zir ilk are racist they don't believe a chinese woman can exhibit the written fluency in english that Mrs has. Racist bastards.

[saxitoxin]

I don't get it. Manning was arrested, tried and imprisoned while Obama was in power, and now years after Manning first got sent to prison Obama suddenly decides to just cancel the rest of the sentence a couple of days before he leaves office? Is Obama saying he fucked up by allowing the state to maliciously prosecute someone who should never have been sent to jail in the first place, or is he saying Manning should have gone to jail but now he's going to let Manning walk without serving hir entire sentence, just because funsies?

I think he's always been sympathetic to her plight, but as long as there was a chance that it could hurt Hillary's chances in the election, he couldn't risk pissing off the war hawks by going easy on her. Now that Hillary's dead and buried, there's no longer any votes to worry about, so he can do the right thing.

I mean it's been six years since Bradley Manning first got arrested. He's had a lot of time to step in if he really wanted to.

That's beside the point though. Like, if Obama is going to oversee Manning getting arrested, tried, found guilty, sentenced, and spending several years in prison, and then after all that decide the punishment was too much and just cancel the rest of it, then why does America even have judges? Clearly the entire criminal justice system dropped the ball by giving Manning a sentence that Obama knows was unfair just by looking at it. What's the point in letting those idiots decide things when Obama clearly knows better? Why not just run every case by the president and let him decide with a simple swing of his thumb?

There is a BIG difference between the civil judicial system and the military judicial system.

Mrsdwk probably doesn't know who the commander in chief of the US military is (or was, at the time). He's likely also unaware of Obama's background in law. He gets confused when it comes to systems of government.

excuse me ... mrswdk identifies as female

the fact she has the third fourth biggest dick I've ever seen doesn't mean you can start throwing around "he"

edited

(I had a wild saturday night)

[Symmetry]

since forever, pretty much. thought gay dudes were supposed to be a little better a picking up on that shit than their hetero counterparts...

Seriously, since when? You're not simply going by the first three letters of his username, are you?

HER username - and no ...

If I were a virile white male and not a graceful Chinese lady I would beat that pussy like Tweety Bird.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=220571&p=4870092&hilit=+chinese+lady+#p4870092

I'm Mrs WDK, a sexy young Chinese lady.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=203222&p=4835269&hilit=+chinese+lady+#p4835269

That said, it made me sad that Symm was not accepting of gender identity and demanded written proof for mrswdk. What's next, is he going to require mrswdk show her CC account registration certificate before entering the forums? Unfair!

Ahem-

Mrsdwk tried to join but he didn't redeem his invitation code in the correct place.

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=202506&p=4426519&hilit=mrsdwk#p4426519

[mrswdk]

I don't get it. Manning was arrested, tried and imprisoned while Obama was in power, and now years after Manning first got sent to prison Obama suddenly decides to just cancel the rest of the sentence a couple of days before he leaves office? Is Obama saying he fucked up by allowing the state to maliciously prosecute someone who should never have been sent to jail in the first place, or is he saying Manning should have gone to jail but now he's going to let Manning walk without serving hir entire sentence, just because funsies?

I think he's always been sympathetic to her plight, but as long as there was a chance that it could hurt Hillary's chances in the election, he couldn't risk pissing off the war hawks by going easy on her. Now that Hillary's dead and buried, there's no longer any votes to worry about, so he can do the right thing.

I mean it's been six years since Bradley Manning first got arrested. He's had a lot of time to step in if he really wanted to.

That's beside the point though. Like, if Obama is going to oversee Manning getting arrested, tried, found guilty, sentenced, and spending several years in prison, and then after all that decide the punishment was too much and just cancel the rest of it, then why does America even have judges? Clearly the entire criminal justice system dropped the ball by giving Manning a sentence that Obama knows was unfair just by looking at it. What's the point in letting those idiots decide things when Obama clearly knows better? Why not just run every case by the president and let him decide with a simple swing of his thumb?

There is a BIG difference between the civil judicial system and the military judicial system.

Mrsdwk probably doesn't know who the commander in chief of the US military is (or was, at the time). She's likely also unaware of Obama's background in law. She gets confused when it comes to systems of government.

At first I thought Sym was just chiming in to disagree with me / be snide about my LGBT status, but then I realized the point he was trying to make with this post of his:

• Obama went to law school, and used to be a practicing lawyer
• Obama was commander of the US military at the time Manning got arrested, tried, sentenced and jailed, and therefore had direct authority over the legal system that tried Manning
• I was therefore wrong when I said Obama overseeing Manning getting arrested, tried, sentenced and jailed, and then subsequently letting him off several years later, was a great big flip flop. It was actually a gigantonormous flip flop.

Thanks for having my back, Sym. Nice to see us queens still know how to stick together.

[Symmetry]

More like he had the ultimate authority to pardon Manning. He was not, as you suggested, interfering with a system that he knew nothing about and had no jurisdiction over.

NIce try, M, but you were very clearly wrong.

[mrswdk]

More like he had the ultimate authority to pardon Manning. He was not, as you suggested, interfering with a system that he knew nothing about and had no jurisdiction over.

lol, did I suggest that? Was it in the same post I suggested The Rock be made President of France?

[riskllama]

underage, totes.

[mrswdk]

underage, totes.

Seconded. Symmetry should post a picture of Obama naked in the NSFW thread to prove that Obama is an adult.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Chelsea Manning: majority of prison sentence commuted by Barack Obama

Chelsea Manning, the US army soldier who became one of the most prominent whistleblowers in modern times when she exposed the nature of warfare in Iraq and Afghanistan, and who then went on to pay the price with a 35-year military prison sentence, is to be freed in May as a gift of outgoing president Barack Obama.

In the most audacious – and contentious – commutation decision to come from Obama yet, the sitting president used his constitutional power just three days before he leaves the White House to give Manning her freedom.

Manning, a transgender woman, will walk from a male military prison in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, on 17 May, almost seven years to the day since she was arrested in a base outside Baghdad for offenses relating to the leaking of a vast trove of US state secrets to the website WikiLeaks.

Nancy Hollander, Manning’s lawyer, spoke to the Guardian before she had even had the chance to pass on to the soldier the news of her release. “Oh my God!” was Hollander’s instant response to the news which she had just heard from the White House counsel. “I cannot believe it – in 120 days she will be free and it will all be over. It’s incredible.”

No better than Hillary and her "ignorance" on how emails work.
Let this f*ck rot. Sick of these morons defending someone who willingly gave info to wikileaks. It's treason, no matter how you want to look at it. Any other country this ass hat pulled this shit, he would have been locked away for life.

[Symmetry]

Chelsea Manning: majority of prison sentence commuted by Barack Obama

Chelsea Manning, the US army soldier who became one of the most prominent whistleblowers in modern times when she exposed the nature of warfare in Iraq and Afghanistan, and who then went on to pay the price with a 35-year military prison sentence, is to be freed in May as a gift of outgoing president Barack Obama.

In the most audacious – and contentious – commutation decision to come from Obama yet, the sitting president used his constitutional power just three days before he leaves the White House to give Manning her freedom.

Manning, a transgender woman, will walk from a male military prison in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, on 17 May, almost seven years to the day since she was arrested in a base outside Baghdad for offenses relating to the leaking of a vast trove of US state secrets to the website WikiLeaks.

Nancy Hollander, Manning’s lawyer, spoke to the Guardian before she had even had the chance to pass on to the soldier the news of her release. “Oh my God!” was Hollander’s instant response to the news which she had just heard from the White House counsel. “I cannot believe it – in 120 days she will be free and it will all be over. It’s incredible.”

No better than Hillary and her "ignorance" on how emails work.
Let this f*ck rot. Sick of these morons defending someone who willingly gave info to wikileaks. It's treason, no matter how you want to look at it. Any other country this ass hat pulled this shit, he would have been locked away for life.

Her sentence has been commuted already. It's a done deal. And anyway, she wasn't in prison for treason. She was acquitted of "aiding the enemy", which is about as close to a treason charge as it gets, I think.