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The prepper's guide

Postby patches70 on Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:16 pm

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People make fun of preppers, say they are paranoid nutbags.

Back at the beginning of January there was a winter storm, relatively minor in the South and Southeast of the US. Some cold weather, snow, ice, threat of power going out, nothing that major really. But panic ensued anyway. This was no big storm, this wasn't some disaster, it was predicted well in advance, everyone knew it was coming. Below are some pictures of the panic. This is how people reacted to a relatively minor snow storm. The pictures are from a North Carolina Walmart employee documenting the empty shelves.


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These Walmart shelves were emptied in a matter of hours for a small storm.

People make fun of preppers, why? It's not a bad idea to have some stuff stored and packed away in case of emergency. If preppers are just crazy nutbags, then why did people go crazy and empty the entire grocery of a Walmart in a few hours? What would happen to the people who emptied these shelves if something really bad happens that won't be over in a few day?


This thread is a guide for prepping. I'm not much of a prepper myself, but there is no reason not to take some precautions. Not because one believes the government is going to collapse, or aliens are going to land or a zombie apocalypse is going to break out, but because natural disasters happen. Floods, massive blizzards, earthquakes, these things happen and in the midst of these disasters the store shelves will look like the above. Where is one going to get food? How is one going to ride out the disaster? Waiting and hoping someone comes to save them or by preparing and having enough supplies to weather the storm?


First and foremost, the number one rule of prepping- Don't tell anyone about it. The only people you want knowing that you have a stockpile of supplies are the people you are planning on sheltering, i.e. your family. Make sure to tell them not to tell anyone else either.
If all you neighbors know you are a prepper (and were laughing at you behind your back the whole time), they will be knocking on your door in the event of an emergency begging for your supplies. The supplies you carefully gathered to protect and you and your family. You won't have enough for everyone. When you have to turn them away, people can become desperate. Desperate people do desperate things. They won't be your neighbor's anymore, they'll become threats.

The basics- Whether or not you consider yourself a prepper or not, everyone, and I mean everyone should have enough food, water and supplies to get through a minimum of three days without access to electricity, public water or services. That's the absolute minimum. If the power goes out tomorrow and every single store with food and supplies is empty, what do you have around your house to eat, drink? How will you cook food? Do you have nonperishable foodstores, enough to last at least three days?
You'd be surprised at how many people don't even have this level of basic stores. Such people are the one's who are truly fucked if ever the SHTF and become very desperate very quickly. Look at the shelves above, these were people who heard about a winter storm coming, looked at the food they had and realized they didn't have shit. After the storm passes, after they've consumed all the stores they bought they still won't learn the lesson and will live as they always have and assume they'll have plenty of notice to be able to purchase what they need in the event of an emergency, as if all emergencies are given fair warning beforehand.

So, pretend that you have decided to become a true "prepper", what steps will you take to prepare? List your suggestions ITT.
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:24 pm

You left out the most important thing - guns and ammunition. It's ok to tell people that you are a prepper, just make sure you let them know that you are well-armed. It's a good idea to start sizing people up for a militia.

I also prep the rest of the world around me, to try to make it like a video game. I have first aid kits that I litter the countryside with. They include Twinkies, syringes pre-loaded with methamphetamine and ammunition. These dropboxes are scattered rather randomly.
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby patches70 on Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:36 pm

I didn't leave out anything, I left it to the community to fill in the gaps. I gave the number one rule, the rule that comes before all others. Guns and ammo is great to have in the event of emergency. When the shelves are empty, society has collapsed, the environment becomes the enemy, one can always trade lead for whatever they need.
Letting your neighbors know that you are a prepper and well armed only gives them the heads up that they gotta take you as a group, though. Doesn't matter how many guns and ammo you got if you are facing off a horde of desperate people all armed to the teeth as well and determined to scratch you out to get your stuff. It's better to let them think you are as destitute as they.
Or even better, be somewhere you don't have neighbors. But that's another step further down the prepping line...

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That is a great public service you do, doom, scattering essentials like that around the countryside. Would you, per chance, have a map of said locations? One can never have enough methamphetamine.
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:00 pm

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Re: The prepper's guide

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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby 2dimes on Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:05 pm

You left supplies for Baronvonpwn?
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:19 pm

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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:10 pm

patches70 wrote:First and foremost, the number one rule of prepping- Don't tell anyone about it. The only people you want knowing that you have a stockpile of supplies are the people you are planning on sheltering, i.e. your family. Make sure to tell them not to tell anyone else either.
If all you neighbors know you are a prepper (and were laughing at you behind your back the whole time), they will be knocking on your door in the event of an emergency begging for your supplies. The supplies you carefully gathered to protect and you and your family. You won't have enough for everyone.


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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:29 am

First rule of prepping is to not waste money on food and shit. Invest in guns and ammo first. If you have those you can take whatever food you need later.
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby warmonger1981 on Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:58 am

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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby KoolBak on Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:23 am

saxitoxin wrote:First rule of prepping is to not waste money on food and shit. Invest in guns and ammo first. If you have those you can take whatever food you need later.


Always been my plan :lol: Better to be a "Have" than a "Have Not"

But I always do have 50 or so MREs on hand,,,,,cycle thru them camping and for fun with the kids, keeping stash relatively fresh :D Worked great when out of power for 24 hours,,,can still have a hot meal!
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:43 pm

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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby patches70 on Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:58 pm

Symmetry wrote:Donner Party Kebabs


MaƮtre d at a fine restaurant calling for the Donner dinner party-
"Donner! Party of six?
Donner! Party of five?
Donner! Party of four?..."
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby warmonger1981 on Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:16 pm

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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:30 am

My sitch ATM is that I have 35 days of food and 35 days of potable water (for drinking and basic hygiene, but not enough for bathing) based on a 1750/calorie-per-day consumption rate. The first three-days worth of food can be consumed sans prepartion or heat. I also have one of those bathtub bladders you can use to collect all the water of out your pipes if there is a major utility disruption which should be enough to handle my beauty regime.

I also have all the other gear like batteries, flashlights, blankets, potassium iodide tablets, etc. I also have a HAM radio that can be charged via solar and a Technician-class license to use it, and three GMRS radios with the GMRS license if I need to set-up a basic comms network with neighbors or whatever. I also have a non-urban location I can remove to but it's not fortified or prepared, so I'd have to take everything with me. My gear is stored in a Faraday cage.

With this I feel like I'm ready for a Level 2 event based on the following scale I made:

    Level 1: temporary disruption (prepare for 3 days) - earthquake, major flood
    Level 2: prolonged disruption (prepare for 30 days) - localized fission product release
    Level 3: permanent disruption, high recovery potential (prepare for 180 days) - EM pulse, limited nuclear war, markets collapse, mainland invasion of the CONUS
    Level 4: permanent disruption, low recovery potential (prepare for indefinite days) - full-scale nuclear war, non-human aggression
The barrier to entry to get to Level 4 readiness, though, becomes pretty expensive as you need a full year of food (six months to hold yourself over while planted crops come in and six months for backup). It's beyond my committment and interest levels.
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:49 am

Acquiring a large amount of food is actually pretty cheap if you don't spend all your money on MREs. My basic rule is: Day 1 - Energy Bars, Day 2 & 3 - MREs, Day 4+ - normal dry goods with 18-month shelf life regularly rotated (e.g. rice, peanut butter, canned goods, etc. - augmented with Pilot Crackers and a large box of table salt and bag-sealed brown sugar). This gives you at least 72 hours to acquire a source of heat with which to cook, though you can stretch that quite a bit by front-loading consumption of items not requiring preparation.

If, within a week, you're still not in a stable enough situation that you can even generate heat primitive enough to cook with, you're in a bad situation and may as well just lay down and die.
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:59 am

Or, y'know, you could hunt or forage. Starting a fire ain't all that hard.

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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:28 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Or, y'know, you could hunt or forage. Starting a fire ain't all that hard.

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or I could just kidnap you and sell you into sexual slavery to a band of wasteland marauders
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:26 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Or, y'know, you could hunt or forage. Starting a fire ain't all that hard.

-TG


or I could just kidnap you and sell you into sexual slavery to a band of wasteland marauders


SUCK IT
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:52 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Or, y'know, you could hunt or forage. Starting a fire ain't all that hard.

-TG


or I could just kidnap you and sell you into sexual slavery to a band of wasteland marauders


SUCK IT


that's what you'll be doing
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby hotfire on Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:21 pm

Nothing to see here. People in the south act like they are lucky to be alive when there is frost on their windshield in the morning. They take pictures to share at family reunions and everything.

If this shelf clearing happened in a northern state this thread might have a chance at being legit. If you live the in north you will probably survive with a much higher standard of living being so far from the nut jobs while the south is doing what it does, shooting each other, if a disaster strikes.
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:38 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Or, y'know, you could hunt or forage. Starting a fire ain't all that hard.

-TG


or I could just kidnap you and sell you into sexual slavery to a band of wasteland marauders


SUCK IT


that's what you'll be doing


I knew that was coming, yet i did it anyway. Worth it.

hotfire wrote:Nothing to see here. People in the south act like they are lucky to be alive when there is frost on their windshield in the morning. They take pictures to share at family reunions and everything.

If this shelf clearing happened in a northern state this thread might have a chance at being legit. If you live the in north you will probably survive with a much higher standard of living being so far from the nut jobs while the south is doing what it does, shooting each other, if a disaster strikes.


So The Walking Dead is more like a documentary than fiction? Being set in Georgia and all.

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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby Symmetry on Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:14 am

Does Walmart run ads on this station?
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby warmonger1981 on Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:11 am

I never knew CC residents was full of preppers.
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Re: The prepper's guide

Postby hotfire on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:07 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Or, y'know, you could hunt or forage. Starting a fire ain't all that hard.

-TG


or I could just kidnap you and sell you into sexual slavery to a band of wasteland marauders


SUCK IT


that's what you'll be doing


I knew that was coming, yet i did it anyway. Worth it.

hotfire wrote:Nothing to see here. People in the south act like they are lucky to be alive when there is frost on their windshield in the morning. They take pictures to share at family reunions and everything.

If this shelf clearing happened in a northern state this thread might have a chance at being legit. If you live the in north you will probably survive with a much higher standard of living being so far from the nut jobs while the south is doing what it does, shooting each other, if a disaster strikes.


So The Walking Dead is more like a documentary than fiction? Being set in Georgia and all.

-TG


It was a documentary with some fiction added into it for effect. Those weren't really zombies, but they were people trying to get other people to share their vegetables during the winter.
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