Indigo League Mafia/RPG Final Scene

[Metsfanmax]

Having said that, it makes me question Fircoal and Mets jumping on his case.

I didn't jump on his case.

[TimWoodbury]

no lynch today

Good idea, but also a great scum tell. We don't know how nights work yet. If you were TR and you know you can kill someone during night, no lynch would be best for you as you wouldn't lose a member for sure. Something tells me mitch could be your partner as he is on 4/14 votes and you spitted out your role on what, 5,6 votes? You afraid of losing mitch?

Yes dakky thats my master plan darn you figured it out. Pokemon can attack or defend. Im assumeing not all pokemon will defend witch means people will die tonight who ive not a clue but heck im assumeing me being fire a water will attack me so im prolly dead anyway...im attacking idk who yet and im shure more will meani g more deaths...more deaths means hopefuuly better chance for good people to unravel whats going on

[TimWoodbury]

You're going to go back and see that I voted for a bunch of people who have since claimed to be wild pokemon, and say that doesn't sit right with you? Please, for the love of The Town, point out the people who have only voted for scum, so I can be just like them and also vote for scum. It's Day 1 bro, virtually all of us will get a few votes wrong on Day 1.

I think you're trying to distract from the issue. IT's not that you're wrong, it's easy to be wrong, it's that you're overeager to jump on whatever wagon seems to be gaining traction. It's not scummy to be wrong but it is scummy to bounce around looking for someone to lynch easily.

Fircoal is scum for deliberately misreading dakky. Dakky said he is someone's starter Pokemon, not a day 1 recruit. Mandy already said night actions will be resolved in the day. Masket can confirm how it works. It's great, if dakky flips town we kill masket. It's win/win at this point.

Hmmm? I did not deliberately misread him. It's possible that I have misread him but it certainly was not deliberate.

Also did Mandy say that night actions were resolved in the day? Because I don't remember seeing that.

AD, aage, Serbia - what makes you so sure that mets is scum?

It's a rare scenario where a policy lynch overlaps with a scum-aimed lynch.
In his earlier statement he said he wanted to play the players, not the mod. He has done nothing but play the mod since then. I think avoiding the actual game and only responding to outside interference makes you look alive even though you're not really playing.
As to his "I quit" shenanigans, you read the thread. If he seriously thinks this game is so unwinnable for him when Mandy interferes and confirms so little, he can't be town right?

Thirdly, this:

Disagree. Tim has had exactly this type of tantrum before in other games and it's not alignment-indicative.

does not logically follow into a scum read on Tim. He says it's not alignment-indicative, and he is quite right. Doesn't make Tim scum, doesn't explain his vote.


I have nothing to do with the flame war between Mets, Nark and Serbia.

Fair enough, while I don't agree I can see where you're going with this.

Because I am equating wild pokemon to town aligned roles with a survivor twist? Kind of like platoon Mafia. To make a reference that even some of the old timers probably forgot about.

I sorta get it? The name seems familiar although I forget what happened in it.

@No Lynch, No lynch, like always is a terrible idea. The town always wants the chance to lynch as it's the main tool of the town. In this game there are more powered attackers but it's always useful to get the chance at killing scum that we get. Even in this early stage it'd be foolish not to.

@Nark, I do find it quite troubling that his information clashes so heavily. Considering that he says he's a wild Pokemon and yet his pm seems to be different from the wild Pokemon pm. That means he's likely lying, which wouldn't make sense if he was a town trainer. Unvote. Vote: AD

I get what your saying no lynch being bad but really weve been a week already and got 6 votes max on anyone...may i ask when exactly is to long nd its a good idea to simply end the day?

[Ragian]

Having said that, it makes me question Fircoal and Mets jumping on his case. I would question Wing and Kwanton too but in my eyes they've already given enough evidence that they're working against Team Rocket.

Didn't mets just say that we shouldn't lynch Nark? (I don't know if I have the seniority to call you Nark, feel free to yell.) I don't see how the quote below can be interpreted differently.

I mean, it seems pretty obvious to me now that Nark has some special role like Professor Oak or something like that but cannot say it without becoming an obvious scum target. That he's in this position already makes him an obvious scum target, but if he's going to die, let's make scum waste their night kill (if they have one) on him rather than giving it to them for free.

That was weird, BuJ...

It might be a case of confirmation bias, but the more dakky posts, the more I am convinced he's scum. The marashu case doesn't seem to gain any attention, so I'm willing to change my vote to dakky.

What makes dakky's posts scummy? I fail to see it...

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Having said that, it makes me question Fircoal and Mets jumping on his case.

I didn't jump on his case.

You saw it too, eh?

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I'm asking for a Marashu prod. PM, yes?

[Minister Masket]

That is true, there is a difference. Just because that's all there is on Nark does not mean we need to settle on him, there have been so many leads that have actually just been a dead end this whole day. While we should lynch someone really soon, I still there can be information found from other players that have not been giving much input. Going on this, here is a list of people who haven't yet claimed being a pokemon (from what I remember) :

Fircoal
Skoffin
Marashu
newguy
nagerous
Hotshot
Ragian(?)
MM
TWO
exile
Talapus
Serbia

It's from this list that I think we should get more information from them in regards to how they fit into this.

Also, I am willing to believe that Nark is a pro-town or anti-trainer/TR.

Not sure why I'm on this list when most people seem to have me down in a role already.

Interesting how Minister Masket voted dakky. This seems to suggest that this is not how the mechanic works. With the amount of wild Pokemon claims going around and also comments about starter Pokemon it could easily be scum that recruited dakky as much as it is town.

If your theory is correct, I would like masket to elaborate on this. I admit it sounds very strange to me that someone would be given a role pm for one thing and then told that they were now recruited before the game actually began.

Lynching mitch under the idea that he is a team rocket recruited pokemon is the same as Lynching any other cult recruit. It makes sense as a back up lynch but we should at least discuss who are the possible cult recruiters before aiming at the recruits as Lynching recruits only delays the inevitable.

fos Nark. Seems you are the only wild pokemon not to know about the other types.

Pretty much what nagerous said up there. Let's look at the odds here based on my reasoning from a couple pages ago:

3 Town, 1 3rd Party, 1 Team Rocket (excluding myself as I don't believe his claim, that's 50% non-town chance)
OR
1 Town, 1 3rd Party, 1 Team Rocket (66.6% non-town chance)

dakkly's best possible chance at being recruited into town is 50%. And overall it's less than that. So either I believe his claim but don't trust those odds, or I think he's lying.
It would be strange if I didn't vote him, no?

Whilst I am spouting accusations out there I am starting to think dakky might be Gary's starter Pokemon choice, just the way Masket voted immediately gives me the impression this isn't a generic trainer mechanic..

However I couldn't give two shits about Gary even if he has some other win cons thrown out there involving trainers. The goal is to catch team rocket so I would like to hear from Nark for saying he was never told the types of Pokemon.

Most of us know about at least five types but I am going to guess there is another type out there who doesn't play to the same roles out there and may not know about the strengths and weaknesses of each type, the normal type..

Correct. And it is for this reason that I think that Gary Oak and whoever makes up the town trainers should be unofficially pushing towards an alliance.

[BuJaber]

Having said that, it makes me question Fircoal and Mets jumping on his case.

I didn't jump on his case.

I could've sworn I saw a post that only said "Unvote Vote Nark"; but I didn't and I'm sorry. I should have double-checked my post. Fircoal and Strike Jumped on his case. Not you. You originally proposed that nark wouldn't act this way if he's scum. And for that I put you down as an ally. I was lazy and careless.

Ragian - I don't have time to write an entire case on dakky right now. I just keep getting a vibe. I'll look at all his posts later and tell you if that changes my mind or not.

We do know now that MM doesn't buy his claim either.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I get what your saying no lynch being bad but really weve been a week already and got 6 votes max on anyone...may i ask when exactly is to long nd its a good idea to simply end the day?

Fircoal wants a lynch, so give him one. Vote Fircoal

[BuJaber]

Okay I reread all of dakky's posts.

Dakky has voted for Doom in the joke stage. Then voted for Serbia for voting the mod. Then voted for mitch. He unvoted at some point then revoted mitch again. He's been on mitch the whole time. That is an amazing level of commitment and confidence from someone claiming to be a wild pokemon. Changing your vote a lot can be scummy, but so can not changing your vote at all. Also mitch has been revealing quite a lot of stuff that was not countered by wild pokemon. I find it hard to believe he isn't a wild pokemon. More recently dakky has convinced himself that mitch has been captured by Team Rocket which is why he is scum. If that is true, which can only be true if you yourself are telling the truth about the capturing mechanic in the game, then why would we kill the pokemon on Day 1, instead of trying to kill who captured him?

Here's dakky discussing Team Rocket & scum in this game.. some inconsistencies:

So it's correct to assume the Team Rocket consists of 3 players.

Why would they only be 3? Especially if they can capture pokemon. You said you were captured in the confirm stage, you would have known by the time posting this that wild pokemon can be captured. In addition to the possibility that they had pokemon to start with if Mandy is following the anime.

Exactly, I was the first to assume the scum is Team Rocket or at least part of the scum. Tim asked a legit question which I ignored as what was the possible answer to it? It's just like asking anyone else are they scum. Waste of words typing "NO" when the whole question is based on my own assumption.

On the other hand, mitch asking questions which can't be answered yet is something completely different.

Dakky states that he has assumed that scum is Team Rocket. But then we get the following discussion:

Anarks posts contain something that he can only know as town.

I'm wondering how do YOU know it is town vs. scum?

Ummm, is that what he said? He said it was something only town would know, and I know EXACTLY what he means, and I assume other players do too... Why are you putting words in his mouth? By all means, try to say that he and I are scum buddies... He saw something that made sense that will make sense to OTHER PLAYERS... The fact that you aren't one of them worries me... Are you a claimed Pokemon or a trainer? Or are you just plain scum?

I wonder again how EXACTLY you know what he means, and how EXACTLY you know it is town vs. scum, as I asked already. Now say I'm putting words into your mouth too.

Why I find this interesting... because I'll claim a wild pokemon as well. But with a little difference... I'm already taken. I know which Pokemon I am, and I know who taken me as a starting pokemon. So I will do whatever my trainer decides and I can't do anything about it.

Wild pokemon claim here. So in his role he would have been told team rocket has to die for him to win. He assumes team rocket is scum, allegedly knows that he needs to get rid of team rocket, then asks all the wild pokemon how they know they're town? Everyone is making the same assumption that you originally made. Why is it so strange?

I can agree here with Nark as I didn't receive a PM also stating I am town. Just wild pokemon before plot twist. I believe no one received a role such as "town trainer" or "scum team rocket". I think it's not a classic game town vs. scum. So any more assumptions on who is what don't make any sense because "town" are probably all trainers with their pokemons and scum are all the rest. And then again, probably only one trainer can win the League so speaking of "town" is actually scummy here. Just my few thoughts... unless I really did get a different Wild pokemon PM from Mandy.

So to summarize, for all "town" trainers and other Wild Pokemon's: Our best bet is to kill Team Rocket trainers and then we will deal against each other. That's inevitable, but at least we can win, or at least, level up and gain possible perks.

And then here we have dakky telling us that we should kill team rocket trainers, but he wants to vote for what he thinks is a pokemon captured by team rocket, not a trainer. Also he starts to question the whole scum vs town setup in this game. Trainers might be scum? Wild pokemon might be scum? Why would you suggest these things, when you have not only claimed to be wild pokemon, but also that a trainer captured you.. So are you saying that both you and your trainer might be scum?

Just strangely inconsistent behavior that suggest he himself is on the fence on where he stands.. Or he knows a lot more than us and he's just trying to confuse everyone with false possibilities.

See ragian, I only had a vibe because I've been reading his posts one at a time when he posted them. Now it seems there might be a very legitimate case here. I want to wait until Marashu posts again before unvoting, but I think I'm leaning more towards a dakky vote. But like I said, confirmation bias is a deceiving thing and I'd like to hear others' thoughts on the matter while we wait for the less active.

[strike wolf]

show: ragian

Remember when I mentioned long posts that don't say much? Because Raglan wasted a post on mostly redundant or unneeded quotes to go over two points.

@buj: dakky bugs me some but I don't see it as much from the posts you are quoting. The last one in particular suggests he did mean to include wild pokemon as town from a later line in the quote.

Now masket is voting him while beating around the bush about if he's lying or not which could be an indication that he is lying and Masket doesn't want to say out of protecting his own role.

[TimWoodbury]

so hers a quick thing about dakky and is also hinted in mandys ost about owned pokemon.. its said owned pokemon do as there trainers say maybe trainer and owened pokemon have day chat and dakkys trainer is telling him to keep his vote on mitch?? if in fact trainers tell there pokemon everything to do as has been mentioned that would include voting lets take a look at whos been voting in pairs?

[TimWoodbury]

unvote vote Vote Fircoal this is because i trust wing he confirmed what i claimed earliear was true when he didnt need to so i can assume hes pokemon as well and im gonna vote with pokemon

[Minister Masket]

I was theorising based on what we know that Ash would start with Pikachu (electric), Brock with geodude (ground) and misty staryu (water)

Stealer. This was one of my theories back in my big speculation post.
Seeing it again however HAS made me realise exactly which 5 types we're likely looking at here:



Didn't twig until I looked up that Grass beats Ground. Apologies for the quickly drawn image but I couldn't find an existing one.

Gary doesn't have a Pokemon in particular in the anime and Team rockets Pokemon are poison ones and I am not convinced poison Pokemon in the game so they could have easily recruited dakky from the wild Pokemon.

Gray Oak doesn't need Pokemon when he has a legion of cheerleaders. ^^

[The1exile]

Another thing to add is Exile has been trying to go after trainers the whole game - is it possible that the WC of trainers is to eliminate other trainers and take their recruited Pokemon to the end and eliminate team rocket? AKA cult, which has been speculated on before.

I may as well throw my cards on the table and say I'm also a wild pokemon. I'm sure you'll understand if I don't want to reveal which type. I wanted to go after the trainers because I feel strongly that the mechanics of pokemon, in addition to the "RPG" element, lend themselves to a cult and minigame setup. In fact, it was rereading Athkatla - which was faction based recruitment with a non-mafia minigame attached and an SK/PGO to sow confusion - before joining that gave me the idea. Since I don't really want to get recruited (and I didn't know the proportion of wild pokemon in this game), since it's a crapshoot as to if you end up with a winning faction anyway and your previous actions may or may not help your new WC, I pushed the idea we should get rid of trainers since they can presumably recruit and an early cult leader kill simplifies the game hugely for town/survivors in most games.

To go further, I'm still pretty sure MM isn't a pokemon - although he doesn't read as Team Rocket, annoyingly - and therefore strategically he'd still usually be my choice to lynch purely for info. Sorry, MM. however...

The only point here is that nark did not know how many types of wild pokemon there are when it is obvious to the rest of us.

I mean, I skimmed this bit the first time because I was focussing on the night crunch rather than the total types - but nark's persistent refusal to address this point, when he could have probably studied the thread and styled it out EVEN IF IT'S NOT IN HS PM, leads me to believe he isn't a pokemon. mandy has been here, and so has nark, so there's no reason for the delayed penny-dropping. Unvote, vote Nark.

[dakky21]

To answer all of you in a single rhetoric question: If I was claimed by TR, why would I go ahead and claim I am claimed by a trainer?

I know who my trainer is (one of you knows as well) and I know I am still "town" so claiming while unnecessary and without pressure (I had a vote or two on myself) was productive to generate more talk.

FP'd by 1ex

[madmitch]

This sounds like the old wine in front of me story.

[kwanton]

Another thing to add is Exile has been trying to go after trainers the whole game - is it possible that the WC of trainers is to eliminate other trainers and take their recruited Pokemon to the end and eliminate team rocket? AKA cult, which has been speculated on before.

I may as well throw my cards on the table and say I'm also a wild pokemon. I'm sure you'll understand if I don't want to reveal which type. I wanted to go after the trainers because I feel strongly that the mechanics of pokemon, in addition to the "RPG" element, lend themselves to a cult and minigame setup. In fact, it was rereading Athkatla - which was faction based recruitment with a non-mafia minigame attached and an SK/PGO to sow confusion - before joining that gave me the idea. Since I don't really want to get recruited (and I didn't know the proportion of wild pokemon in this game), since it's a crapshoot as to if you end up with a winning faction anyway and your previous actions may or may not help your new WC, I pushed the idea we should get rid of trainers since they can presumably recruit and an early cult leader kill simplifies the game hugely for town/survivors in most games.

I'm actually with you on this, if solely for the reason that it'd be more fun to do my own night actions than have someone choose them for me. Ya'll better not recruit me. Wildboys4lyfe.

To go further, I'm still pretty sure MM isn't a pokemon - although he doesn't read as Team Rocket, annoyingly - and therefore strategically he'd still usually be my choice to lynch purely for info. Sorry, MM. however...

I don't know what to think about MM. He just posted the 5 types like it was some sort of revelation, when it was obvious to all wild pokemon from their PMs. We've even been talking about it for the past few pages. Some of us knew exactly which types of wild pokemon are in the game. This is not a confirmation as to whether MM was correct about the role types or not.

The only point here is that nark did not know how many types of wild pokemon there are when it is obvious to the rest of us.

I mean, I skimmed this bit the first time because I was focussing on the night crunch rather than the total types - but nark's persistent refusal to address this point, when he could have probably studied the thread and styled it out EVEN IF IT'S NOT IN HS PM, leads me to believe he isn't a pokemon. mandy has been here, and so has nark, so there's no reason for the delayed penny-dropping. Unvote, vote Nark.

Exactly my point. I understand that the case started out thin, which is why I didn't vote nark to begin with. I only voted him after he basically refused to defend himself. What he said just does not logically make sense with what we know to be true from our role PMs. He could have just said "woops I misread my PM". Honestly, none of this makes any sense. I wasn't going to vote him for maybe misreading his PM, but the lack of effort to defend himself is scummy as hell.

I will say that we should delay any lynch until we get a vote count from Mandy. Please don't bandwagon anymore until we hear from the mod for now. I have my reasons for saying this.

[nagerous]

Because I am equating wild pokemon to town aligned roles with a survivor twist? Kind of like platoon Mafia. To make a reference that even some of the old timers probably forgot about.

Great memory

[Anarkistsdream]

Another thing to add is Exile has been trying to go after trainers the whole game - is it possible that the WC of trainers is to eliminate other trainers and take their recruited Pokemon to the end and eliminate team rocket? AKA cult, which has been speculated on before.

I may as well throw my cards on the table and say I'm also a wild pokemon. I'm sure you'll understand if I don't want to reveal which type. I wanted to go after the trainers because I feel strongly that the mechanics of pokemon, in addition to the "RPG" element, lend themselves to a cult and minigame setup. In fact, it was rereading Athkatla - which was faction based recruitment with a non-mafia minigame attached and an SK/PGO to sow confusion - before joining that gave me the idea. Since I don't really want to get recruited (and I didn't know the proportion of wild pokemon in this game), since it's a crapshoot as to if you end up with a winning faction anyway and your previous actions may or may not help your new WC, I pushed the idea we should get rid of trainers since they can presumably recruit and an early cult leader kill simplifies the game hugely for town/survivors in most games.

To go further, I'm still pretty sure MM isn't a pokemon - although he doesn't read as Team Rocket, annoyingly - and therefore strategically he'd still usually be my choice to lynch purely for info. Sorry, MM. however...

The only point here is that nark did not know how many types of wild pokemon there are when it is obvious to the rest of us.

I mean, I skimmed this bit the first time because I was focussing on the night crunch rather than the total types - but nark's persistent refusal to address this point, when he could have probably studied the thread and styled it out EVEN IF IT'S NOT IN HS PM, leads me to believe he isn't a pokemon. mandy has been here, and so has nark, so there's no reason for the delayed penny-dropping. Unvote, vote Nark.

What's funny is the whole thing that got me in this mess was AGREEING WITH YOU!!!!

And persistent refusal??? I have already said a dozen times it was NOT IN MY PM! So what am I not addressing?

Why do you think Mandalorian won't post on it? Especially after Mets reaction to other info... So don't act like "the mod isn't giving me any info." He isn't supposed to.

Like I said, folks... I think Fircoal outed himself with his post last. Apparently, Wing agrees with me, even if he now thinks I am... wait for it... "A Dancer in the Dark."

You guys bitch when people are too serious, then you guys lambaste me for trying to make things light-hearted... It's a damn game, people... Smoke a bowl and chill.

So, Unvote Vote: Fircoal

And now watch as I am correct, whether you all are smart enough to keep me around or not.

[Anarkistsdream]

Oh, and wasting your lynch on me is going to screw the game when Team Rocket abducts more wild pokemon in the night or kills a few of you...

Or, wait, how about this...

I MISREAD MY PM... There, does that make it all better? Whether I did or not is irrelevant, because, either way, people will still attack me. So, either deal with me and keep moving or kill me...

VOTE FIRCOAL

[nagerous]

Oh, and wasting your lynch on me is going to screw the game when Team Rocket abducts more wild pokemon in the night or kills a few of you...

Or, wait, how about this...

I MISREAD MY PM... There, does that make it all better? Whether I did or not is irrelevant, because, either way, people will still attack me. So, either deal with me and keep moving or kill me...

VOTE FIRCOAL

I don't know why but I believe you, even though I wanted to have caught you out red handed and there remains a strong case considering your continual denial for multiple pages on this topic, I oddly find you trustworthy still.

The Fircoal case is a very interesting one, he was quick to join the bandwagon and his reasoning wasn't very strong, it felt like he was just trying to follow the vanguard of opinion at the time rather than assert true views and true opinions if you compare the way he is playing to someone like Kwanton who is giving off a a very strong town vibe.

I am going to lay my cards on the table here and
vote Fircoal . Although I was one of the architects in the case against Nark with my highlighting of his initial error, we have garnered enough information out of him and other than a full role claim he won't provide much more of substance and the town have a choice now, do we Lynch him or do we trust him. I have a feeling we may end up split down the middle, but at the moment my opinion he has said enough throughout the game that I am convinced enough despite his errors he is in fact town.

Fircoal however has sat on the fence on many issues and hasn't got involved enough in the flavour spec and the question marks over wild Pokemon etc and that's why I have chosen to vote him in this case.

Just as a note I am going to be really busy the next few days with work and Xmas coming up so am not going to find much time to post unfortunately but will try and find time to check in when I can

[Anarkistsdream]

UNOFFICIAL Vote count:

Tim (1) - Mets

Minister Masket (1)- Talapus,

BuJaber (1) - Aage (as spurgistan)

Mitch (4) - legionnare, Samlen, Yoshi, Dakky,

Marashu (3) - Ragian, Bujaber, New Guy

Talapus (1) - Skoffin

Anark (5) - Tim, Kwanton, Strike, Fircoal, exile

legionnare (1) - Hotshot

Skittles (1) - Wing

Dakky (2) - Masket, Madmitch

Fircoal (4) - Wing, Tim, Anark, Nagerous

26 alive, 14 to lynch


This is only from Mandy's last count.... Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:01 pm EST

MANDY, can we get a prod on the following:

Skoffin
Marashu
Anybody anyone else can think of?

[strike wolf]

@ exile: If you are a Wild Pokemon, why did it take so long for you to ask about your victory condition? Shouldn't that have been one of the first things you asked for if it wasn't in your PM?

Great memory

I still occasionally bring that one up because it was probably the first game I really felt like I started to hit my stride in mafia.

[Anarkistsdream]

SORRY! Missed Tims re-vote! Can't vote for ME and Fircoal at the same time! haha

UNOFFICIAL Vote count:

Tim (1) - Mets

Minister Masket (1)- Talapus,

BuJaber (1) - Aage (as spurgistan)

Mitch (4) - legionnare, Samlen, Yoshi, Dakky,

Marashu (3) - Ragian, Bujaber, New Guy

Talapus (1) - Skoffin

Anark (4) - Kwanton, Strike, Fircoal, exile

legionnare (1) - Hotshot

Skittles (1) - Wing

Dakky (2) - Masket, Madmitch

Fircoal (4) - Wing, Tim, Anark, Nagerous

26 alive, 14 to lynch


This is only from Mandy's last count.... Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:01 pm EST

MANDY, can we get a prod on the following:

Skoffin
Marashu
Anybody anyone else can think of?

Samlen said he would post tomorrow...

Where is TWO?

[DoomYoshi]

@Fircoal: in the OP, subrule 3 about feedbacks indicates that dakky's recruit works exactly like mandy says it should. The action happens in the night (pre-game in this case) and then the result is received in the day. The case on you is not surprising at this point. You are more familiar with Pokemon than anyone and you even played in my PKMN Chapter 1 which featured the same setup and yet you seem surprised by all the mechanics that people mention.

Mitch is scum based on my read of him, and I am familiar with his play.

I have a sneaking suspicion there are only 3 trainers since the numbers would be lopsided with 3 town recruiters. Whoever recruited dakky is Gary Oak based on dakky's play. We can squeeze him for more information tomorrow. I am fine with lynching dakky just to test numbers (if he comes up as Gary's, then it becomes extremely unlikely to have 3 town recruiters).

Case on Nark is dumb.

A lot of people are stealing my thunder. When I said Wild are town, people were like no-no they are 3rd party. Now more people are realizing they are true town which would still make Ash scum.

[Anarkistsdream]

@Fircoal: in the OP, subrule 3 about feedbacks indicates that dakky's recruit works exactly like mandy says it should. The action happens in the night (pre-game in this case) and then the result is received in the day. The case on you is not surprising at this point. You are more familiar with Pokemon than anyone and you even played in my PKMN Chapter 1 which featured the same setup and yet you seem surprised by all the mechanics that people mention.

Mitch is scum based on my read of him, and I am familiar with his play.

I have a sneaking suspicion there are only 3 trainers since the numbers would be lopsided with 3 town recruiters. Whoever recruited dakky is Gary Oak based on dakky's play. We can squeeze him for more information tomorrow. I am fine with lynching dakky just to test numbers (if he comes up as Gary's, then it becomes extremely unlikely to have 3 town recruiters).

Case on Nark is dumb.

A lot of people are stealing my thunder. When I said Wild are town, people were like no-no they are 3rd party. Now more people are realizing they are true town which would still make Ash scum.

Not disagreeing, just asking... What makes you think lynching the Pokemon will reveal the trainer?