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Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:29 am

Barack Obama
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What he Won For:
Inspires Hope for a Better Future

Barack H. Obama, the 44th President of the United States, had been in power for less than eight months when he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009. Among the reasons it gave, the Nobel Committee lauded Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples". Emphasis was also given to his support - in word and deed - for the vision of a world free from nuclear weapons.

Even before the election, Obama had advocated dialogue and cooperation across national, ethnic, religious and political dividing lines. As President, he called for a new start to relations between the Muslim world and the West based on common interests and mutual understanding and respect. In accordance with a promise he made during his election campaign, he set in motion a plan for the withdrawal of U.S. occupying forces from Iraq.

During his first year in power, President Obama showed himself to be a strong spokesman for human rights and democracy, and as a constructive supporter of the work being done to put effective measures in place to combat the climate crisis. This is in line with his appeal: "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges".


How He Measures Up:
Basically, everything he won for he didn't achieve. Islamic Terrorism is still going strong with ISIS and the war in Afghanistan still dragging on. International co-operation doesn't exist, with Russia starting a new reign of terror. Gitmo is still open. He basically won for being black, and he isn't even black (he's American). One thing he was successful at is removing all the nukes in the world.

Aung San Suu Kyi
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What she Won For:
Burma's Modern Symbol of Freedom

The Burmese Peace Prize Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi is the daughter of the legendary liberation movement leader Aung San. Following studies abroad, she returned home in 1988. From then on, she led the opposition to the military junta that had ruled Burma since 1962. She was one of the founders of the National League for Democracy (NLD), and was elected secretary general of the party. Inspired by Mahatma Gandhi, she opposed all use of violence and called on the military leaders to hand over power to a civilian government. The aim was to establish a democratic society in which the country's ethnic groups could cooperate in harmony.

In the election in 1990, the NLD won a clear victory, but the generals prevented the legislative assembly from convening. Instead they continued to arrest members of the opposition and refused to release Suu Kyi from house arrest.

The Peace Prize had a significant impact in mobilizing world opinion in favor of Aung San Suu Kyi's cause. However, she remained under house arrest for almost 15 of the 21 years from her arrest in July 1989 until her release on 13 November 2010, whereupon she was able to resume her political career and put her mark on the rapid democratization of Myanmar.


How She Measures Up:
Myanmar is one of the best countries in the world, as they don't accept Muslims as citizens. However, they do accept the equally revolting Buddhists, so there is a lot of work left to do. They have been pretty slow at kil

Juan Manuel Santos

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What he Won For:
"for his resolute efforts to bring the country's more than 50-year-long civil war to an end"


How He Measures Up:
The Peace agreement originally went to a referendum where it was rejected even though, according to Juan it was "the best possible agreement". Now, a new, substantially revised peace agreement between the Columbian government and FARC is going to skip the referendum and go straight to Congress. This will probably drive the price of cocaine up and lead to more violence.
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby Symmetry on Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:23 am

:D Meh- simplistic takes on the Nobel prizes are pretty par for the course. Can I ask what made you ignore Henry Kissinger from your post?

I'm genuinely interested in why criticism for the peace prize has generated so much outrage in the right for Obama, but apparently gets ignored for rightwing heroes like Kissinger.

Was the media you view just telling you about Obama?
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby DoomYoshi on Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:13 am

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but everytime you buy a product that says "Made In China" - and it's probably at least once a year - you have Kissinger's peace to thank.
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby Symmetry on Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:05 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Perhaps you haven't noticed, but everytime you buy a product that says "Made In China" - and it's probably at least once a year - you have Kissinger's peace to thank.


This is literally never something I have ever sung Henry's Kissinger's praises for. Is this an annual tradition in the DY household?
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:00 pm

Is dylan going to have to give his Nobel back since he's refusing to go to Sweden to pick it up?
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby DoomYoshi on Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:35 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:Is dylan going to have to give his Nobel back since he's refusing to go to Sweden to pick it up?


How can you give back something you never received?
Symmetry wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Perhaps you haven't noticed, but everytime you buy a product that says "Made In China" - and it's probably at least once a year - you have Kissinger's peace to thank.


This is literally never something I have ever sung Henry's Kissinger's praises for. Is this an annual tradition in the DY household?


I'll tell you if you tell me what the things are that you do sing Kissinger's praises for?

Here is a totally unbiased factual report:
https://www.amazon.com/China-Henry-Kissinger/dp/0143121316
and here's another:
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:46 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:Is dylan going to have to give his Nobel back since he's refusing to go to Sweden to pick it up?


How can you give back something you never received?

Symmetry wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Perhaps you haven't noticed, but everytime you buy a product that says "Made In China" - and it's probably at least once a year - you have Kissinger's peace to thank.


This is literally never something I have ever sung Henry's Kissinger's praises for. Is this an annual tradition in the DY household?


I'll tell you if you tell me what the things are that you do sing Kissinger's praises for?

Here is a totally unbiased factual report:
https://www.amazon.com/China-Henry-Kissinger/dp/0143121316
and here's another:


Technically he received the recognition/award already, he just hasn't recieved the 'trophy' or the money. There is a serious debate happening in Sweden over possibly revoking a prize for the first time because he's chosen to snub them.
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby riskllama on Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:10 pm

this would never have happened if they gave it to larry david, instead.
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:30 pm



Apparently you didn't read my post closely, as I stated it would be the first time the Swede's take back the prize. I did not say it was the first time the prize wasn't picked up in person. Besides JPS, there has never been a literature winner who hasn't picked up his prize simply because he didn't want to. Way to link a bunch of interesting wikipedia pages though!
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:22 am

Apparently you aren't familiar with reality, as I was only responding to the real parts of your post and not the phantasms involving reneged prizes. Who is debating this prize revocation other than some tabloid magazines?
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby mookiemcgee on Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:12 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Apparently you aren't familiar with reality, as I was only responding to the real parts of your post and not the phantasms involving reneged prizes. Who is debating this prize revocation other than some tabloid magazines?


How dare I intrude on the fair and balanced reality you live in doom yoshi. My apologies for upsetting the careful balance and order of the waking dream you call your life.
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby mrswdk on Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:34 am

Not to forget the Nobel Peace Prize won by the European Union in 2012. Four years on and European stability is still rolling from strength to strength!
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:23 am

There is serious discussion about revoking the 2012 prize, so I guess it doesn't count.
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:26 am

DoomYoshi wrote:There is serious discussion about revoking the 2012 prize, so I guess it doesn't count.


It should be given to the House of Habsburg for five centuries of striving to keep Europe united without any gratitude from the beneficiaries.
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby mrswdk on Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:56 am

DoomYoshi wrote:There is serious discussion about revoking the 2012 prize, so I guess it doesn't count.


2009 auch!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34277960
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Winners: Where are they Now?

Postby Symmetry on Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:36 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:Is dylan going to have to give his Nobel back since he's refusing to go to Sweden to pick it up?


How can you give back something you never received?

Symmetry wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Perhaps you haven't noticed, but everytime you buy a product that says "Made In China" - and it's probably at least once a year - you have Kissinger's peace to thank.


This is literally never something I have ever sung Henry's Kissinger's praises for. Is this an annual tradition in the DY household?


I'll tell you if you tell me what the things are that you do sing Kissinger's praises for?

Here is a totally unbiased factual report:
https://www.amazon.com/China-Henry-Kissinger/dp/0143121316
and here's another:


Technically he received the recognition/award already, he just hasn't recieved the 'trophy' or the money. There is a serious debate happening in Sweden over possibly revoking a prize for the first time because he's chosen to snub them.


Did you know Kissinger is also a Harlem Globetrotter? Look it up.

There's always been debate about this stuff. Dylan isn't the first to snub the prize. Sartre did it before him, iirc. That stuff pales in comparison to Peace Prize winners. There's a lot of politics in those prizes. Often the committees want to encourage and admonish as much as they want to reward and acknowledge.

That said, it's one of the better prizes for writers. You really can't go too far wrong reading one of the winners.
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