Russia Withdraws from ICC!

[saxitoxin]

Russia has just withdrawn from the International Criminal Court!

South Africa, the Gambia, now Russia - how much longer will this kangaroo court last?

Meanwhile, NATO has started shitting the bed that President Trump will formally recognize Crimea as an integral part of Russia.

[mrswdk]

Well waddya expect when the best the ICC can manage is a rating of 3.1 stars out of 5, based on 37 Google Reviews? If it keeps up like this it'll surely be getting a visit from Gordon Ramsay.

[waauw]

The ICC is worthless anyway. They only persecute the small african and balkan warlords. George Bush and his secretary of defence are the ones who should be put on trial.

[DoomYoshi]

United States is not a member anyways, so why do you care?

[Keefie]

The Russians are shit at cricket, so who cares.

[waauw]

United States is not a member anyways, so why do you care?

Never pass by an opportunity to shit on Bush.

[DoomYoshi]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/18/state-impunity-international-criminal-court-african

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2016-11-04/icc-ice

[tzor]

The ICC Sucks. It is one of the problems why Europe is going down the winding highway to SUCK. It is basically accountable to no one, not only the people and tries to hide under the false pretense that they are "self regulating."

Here is a report from 2012:

In reality, its own bureaucracy has kept the ICC from becoming anything approaching tyrannical—let alone effective. Procedural and substantive deficiencies have marred the work of the court, leading to lengthy delays and frustration. In ten years of existence, the ICC has opened formal investigations into 28 of the most serious atrocities and has conducted cases against a number of the alleged perpetrators. Yet, as John Bellinger recently noted in the Washington Post, it has completed just one, raising concerns regarding the effectiveness of the court.

Here is something from 2015:

First is the issue of credibility. One of the main criticisms following the conclusion of the trial of Thomas Lubanga in 2012 was that after ten years of the Court’s existence it had spent the best part of a billion euros and produced only one first instance verdict. But in the three years following, we can now count three final verdicts (in the cases against Lubanga, Mathieu Ngojolo Chui, and Germain Katanga), a further final decision on reparations in Lubanga’s case, and another judgment from the trial chamber (in the case of the Prosecutor v Jean-Pierre Bemba) due later this year. The ICC has never been busier. In the last month we have seen the arrest of Abu Tourab for crimes against cultural heritage; the Prosecutor extending the ongoing preliminary examination into the situation in Ukraine to cover the period following the Russian annexation of Crimea; and as the Court gets ready to move to its new permanent premises later this month, it will conduct four simultaneous trials for the first time. The Court has made the shift from a fledging court to a mature institution.

There is also a key role for States in overcoming the questions around the Court’s legitimacy. The Court’s global standing is undoubtedly undermined by the fact that only two of the permanent members of the UN Security Council are members of the Court, yet the Security Council can refer situations to the Prosecutor, with no effective follow-up. As we saw in the case of Syria, members of the Security Council can veto a referral even where horrific crimes are taking place.

[Symmetry]

The ICC Sucks. It is one of the problems why Europe is going down the winding highway to SUCK. It is basically accountable to no one, not only the people and tries to hide under the false pretense that they are "self regulating."

Here is a report from 2012:

In reality, its own bureaucracy has kept the ICC from becoming anything approaching tyrannical—let alone effective. Procedural and substantive deficiencies have marred the work of the court, leading to lengthy delays and frustration. In ten years of existence, the ICC has opened formal investigations into 28 of the most serious atrocities and has conducted cases against a number of the alleged perpetrators. Yet, as John Bellinger recently noted in the Washington Post, it has completed just one, raising concerns regarding the effectiveness of the court.

Here is something from 2015:

First is the issue of credibility. One of the main criticisms following the conclusion of the trial of Thomas Lubanga in 2012 was that after ten years of the Court’s existence it had spent the best part of a billion euros and produced only one first instance verdict. But in the three years following, we can now count three final verdicts (in the cases against Lubanga, Mathieu Ngojolo Chui, and Germain Katanga), a further final decision on reparations in Lubanga’s case, and another judgment from the trial chamber (in the case of the Prosecutor v Jean-Pierre Bemba) due later this year. The ICC has never been busier. In the last month we have seen the arrest of Abu Tourab for crimes against cultural heritage; the Prosecutor extending the ongoing preliminary examination into the situation in Ukraine to cover the period following the Russian annexation of Crimea; and as the Court gets ready to move to its new permanent premises later this month, it will conduct four simultaneous trials for the first time. The Court has made the shift from a fledging court to a mature institution.

There is also a key role for States in overcoming the questions around the Court’s legitimacy. The Court’s global standing is undoubtedly undermined by the fact that only two of the permanent members of the UN Security Council are members of the Court, yet the Security Council can refer situations to the Prosecutor, with no effective follow-up. As we saw in the case of Syria, members of the Security Council can veto a referral even where horrific crimes are taking place.

Why do you think the ICC is a European thing? It sort of looks like you mixed up the EU and the UN, then did your usual massive quotes thing. I thought it courteous to give you the benefit of the doubt and allow you to backpedal here. After all, you do understand what is being discussed, don't you?

[mrswdk]

United States is not a member anyways, so why do you care?

Never pass by an opportunity to shit on Bush.

Hey hey, this is CC not a German porno.

[Symmetry]

United States is not a member anyways, so why do you care?

Never pass by an opportunity to shit on Bush.

Hey hey, this is CC not a German porno.

Gore on Bush?

[mrswdk]

United States is not a member anyways, so why do you care?

Never pass by an opportunity to shit on Bush.

Hey hey, this is CC not a German porno.

Gore on Bush?

And that's Japan. There must be something about being a fascist and loving filthy movies.

[Symmetry]

United States is not a member anyways, so why do you care?

Never pass by an opportunity to shit on Bush.

Hey hey, this is CC not a German porno.

Gore on Bush?

And that's Japan. There must be something about being a fascist and loving filthy movies.

What inspired you to post the pics you got into trouble for!

[mrswdk]

Hey, they were just pictures of a girl's face as she experienced bliss and rapture. That's not smut, that's beautiful (^0^)

[Symmetry]

Hey, they were just pictures of a girl's face as she experienced bliss and rapture. That's not smut, that's beautiful (^0^)

Borderline paedophilia was the view of several mods at the time, but that's just the facts, backed up by evidence. I'm interested in your thoughts.

[mrswdk]

Yeah, but then those mods also closed the betiko thread even though he told them he was okay with it, so, ya know..

[Symmetry]

Hey, they were just pictures of a girl's face as she experienced bliss and rapture. That's not smut, that's beautiful (^0^)

Borderline paedophilia was the view of several mods at the time, but that's just the facts, backed up by evidence. I'm interested in your thoughts.

Yeah, but then those mods also closed the betiko thread even though he told them he was okay with it, so, ya know..

I don't know what you mean, but it sort of seems like you're dodging.

It's a fair question, I think- what motivated you to post those images?