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Re: Trump is finished

Postby The asylum on Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:20 pm

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Re: Trump is finished

Postby tzor on Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:11 am

PLAYER57832 wrote:What laws is she supposed to have broken? What information has she been proven to have leaked?


There is an espionage act. The FBI made the perfect case for the breaking of the law and then saved her at the last moment by throwing in the word "Intent" which was not actually in the law (really, what is "intentional negligence" people who do things out of negligence do not wake up one day and intend to do that). Mark Levin – Hillary Clinton Violated The Espionage Act – Section 793 Penal Code

As for information leaked. We have a DEAD Iranian spy. How did Iran get that information? We can't prove it positively, but enough emails were on Clinton's server to effectively give his name away. How many more people are or will be DEAD because of this? She has more dead people under her than the average Mafia Godfather.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby mrswdk on Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:30 am

If Clinton did actually break the law and the FBI is failing to hold her to account, then why is there not some enthusiastic and rich Clinton hater/law lover funding the prosecution against her?
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby patches70 on Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:54 am

mrswdk wrote:then why is there not some enthusiastic and rich Clinton hater/law lover funding the prosecution against her?


How do you think the criminal justice system works?
Do you think that anyone can just pay to criminally prosecute someone?

Prosecution is carried out by the State and the State alone. Random citizens have no say in the matter. Injured parties can refuse to participate (i.e. press charges), but you think some random rich person who doesn't like Clinton has standing to press charges against Clinton?

Maybe the justice system works like that in China but it doesn't work like that in the US.

The FBI director didn't bring charges because of funding, funding isn't the problem. The FBI director, in this case at least, decided that it wasn't up to the FBI to determine who the next President is.
If the FBI did bring charges, Clinton would be finished, virtually giving the Presidency to Trump. The director instead turned over the decision to the voters, which was probably the right thing to do.
Don't get me wrong, I believe Clinton should be tossed straight into jail for all the malfeasance she's committed over the decades, but it's not in the FBI's power to throw an election into such chaos at this point in time. Clinton was saved by the bell so to speak. The director stated in no uncertain terms that Clinton broke the law and that even though she's not going to be prosecuted in this instance at this time doesn't mean that if someone else did the exact same thing would also get off without prosecution. Anyone else absolutely would be prosecuted in a heartbeat.

The director turned the decision of what to do with Clinton over to the voters.

If the American people are stupid enough to vote for Clinton then we get what we deserve.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby mrswdk on Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:16 pm

patches70 wrote:The FBI director didn't bring charges because of funding, funding isn't the problem. The FBI director, in this case at least, decided that it wasn't up to the FBI to determine who the next President is.
If the FBI did bring charges, Clinton would be finished, virtually giving the Presidency to Trump. The director instead turned over the decision to the voters, which was probably the right thing to do.
Don't get me wrong, I believe Clinton should be tossed straight into jail for all the malfeasance she's committed over the decades, but it's not in the FBI's power to throw an election into such chaos at this point in time.


You believe that people who commit crimes should be given a free pass if they are engaged in a political election, and that the supremacy of the legal system should be temporarily tossed out the window and replaced with some sort of 'mob rules' trial by public opinion? And if people vote for the criminal, the criminal's crimes should be ignored and spared punishment?

Okay bro.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby patches70 on Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:32 pm

You're reading comprehension is almost as bad as sym's if you think I believe politicians should be given a free pass. Clinton should be in jail, a long time ago.

The State determines who to prosecute and when and people are given passes all the time for all kinds of reasons. There are usually civil ways for injured parties to seek redress in these cases.

In the event that the State chooses not to prosecute or otherwise fails in it's prosecution, then it means some other way must be used to punish the offender.
For instance, OJ Simpson got off but was sued by the Goldman family for every cent he had and every cent he'd ever make. OJ lived in virtual poverty until he was driven to do something wrong so that he is now in prison for the rest of life.
Vigilantism won't be tolerated, not to mention the amount of protection someone like Clinton has so the last recourse, the only thing left is to make sure she doesn't get elected President.

This is it for her. This is her last chance. If she loses then she'll go off into the sunset (rich as all get out) and will lose a lot of the political protection she has enjoyed so that sometime in the future she just may face the music for her misdeeds. One can hope at least. She may not be going to jail (yet) for what she did but I think that her losing to Trump would be a really good gut punch for her and would go restoring faith in humanity somewhat (bitter sweet as it could be) people have lost by her not getting prosecuted when she so deservedly has coming to her.

I do not envy the FBI director's position, he was in a tough spot.
Besides, even if she gets elected her chances of making through a full term are slim. She's not got much time left on this Earth. Clinton is in poor health and she'll face justice in this life or the next. In fact, Clinton needs to win just to keep from going to jail, IMO. We'll see though, there was no way an Obama administration was going to let Clinton be prosecuted. Future administrations however might not be so inclined...
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby notyou2 on Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:11 pm

tzor wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:What laws is she supposed to have broken? What information has she been proven to have leaked?


There is an espionage act. The FBI made the perfect case for the breaking of the law and then saved her at the last moment by throwing in the word "Intent" which was not actually in the law (really, what is "intentional negligence" people who do things out of negligence do not wake up one day and intend to do that). Mark Levin – Hillary Clinton Violated The Espionage Act – Section 793 Penal Code

As for information leaked. We have a DEAD Iranian spy. How did Iran get that information? We can't prove it positively, but enough emails were on Clinton's server to effectively give his name away. How many more people are or will be DEAD because of this? She has more dead people under her than the average Mafia Godfather.


The republicans have never shed any blood. You should vote for them.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby Serbia on Wed Aug 17, 2016 8:31 pm

SYSTEM OF A DOWN
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby tzor on Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:44 am

mrswdk wrote:If Clinton did actually break the law and the FBI is failing to hold her to account, then why is there not some enthusiastic and rich Clinton hater/law lover funding the prosecution against her?


Criminal charges can only be pressed by the state.
Civil charges on the other hand ...

Hillary Clinton’s E-Mail Case Will Live on in Civil Suits
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby tzor on Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:47 am

patches70 wrote:This is it for her. This is her last chance. If she loses then she'll go off into the sunset ...


Not exactly, there is always Chelsea. There are always ways to get access to and game the system.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby tzor on Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:52 am

notyou2 wrote:The republicans have never shed any blood. You should vote for them.


Interesting I mention a specific and you counter with a generality.

If you want to know, however, NEVER VOTE FOR JEB BUSH.

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Re: Trump is finished

Postby betiko on Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:32 am

i think it s time for all of us to switch the foe button on on the confederates mongolian... And please don't quote his shit. Seriously, this guy is a full retard.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby Bernie Sanders on Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:07 pm

tzor wrote:
notyou2 wrote:The republicans have never shed any blood. You should vote for them.


Interesting I mention a specific and you counter with a generality.

If you want to know, however, NEVER VOTE FOR JEB BUSH.

Happy?

We agree, never vote for Jeb Bush.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby BoganGod on Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:14 pm

Bernie is finished, what a sell out. Little wall street arse peddling he pussy.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:42 am

I came here to defend the Nazis from Symmetry's vile posting.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby warmonger1981 on Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:12 am

Maybe this is why Come didn't prosecute.

It appears that James Comey (who is actually a lawyer by trade) also has long history of cases ending favorable to Clintons, including the case of Sandy Berger, a former Clinton Administration aid. During the Berger probe, Comey said publicly that ‘we take issues of classified information very seriously’, all the while seeming to undermine the scope of the investigation – presumably to protect the Clintons:
“In 2004, Comey, then serving as a deputy attorney general in the Justice Department, apparently limited the scope of the criminal investigation of Sandy Berger, which left out former Clinton administration officials who may have coordinated with Berger in his removal and destruction of classified records from the National Archives. The documents were relevant to accusations that the Clinton administration was negligent in the build-up to the 9/11 terrorist attack.”

“Curiously, Berger, Lynch and Cheryl Mills all worked as partners in the Washington law firm Hogan & Hartson, which prepared tax returns for the Clintons and did patent work for a software firm that played a role in the private email server Hillary Clinton used when she was secretary of state.”
“Hogan & Hartson in Virginia filed a patent trademark request on May 19, 2004, for Denver-based MX Logic Inc., the computer software firm that developed the email encryption system used to manage Clinton’s private email server beginning in July 2013. A tech expert has observed that employees of MX Logic could have had access to all the emails that went through her account.
In 1999, President Bill Clinton nominated [Loretta] Lynch for the first of her two terms as U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, a position she held until she joined Hogan & Hartson in March 2002 to become a partner in the firm’s Litigation Practice Group.” (Source WND)
Many will also be unaware that before Comey was installed by the Obama Administration as FBI Director, he was on the board of Director at HSBC Bank – a bank implicated in international money laundering, including the laundering of billions on behalf of international drugs and narcotics trafficking cartels.
Forbes also points out where Comey was also at the key choke-point during the case involving dodgy auditor KPMG which followed on by the HSBC criminal case:
“If Comey, and his boss Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, had made a different decision about KPMG back in 2005, KPMG would not have been around to miss all the illegal acts HSBC and Standard Chartered SCBFF +% were committing on its watch. Bloomberg reported in 2007 that back in June of 2005, Comey was the man thrust into the position of deciding whether KPMG would live or die for its criminal tax shelter violations.”


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Re: Trump is finished

Postby Symmetry on Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:41 pm

patches70 wrote:You're reading comprehension is almost as bad as sym's


LOL
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby ConfederateSS on Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:48 am

-------Does betiko know he is posting in a forum named after one of my ideas?...Does he also know I'm a Super trend setting Genius?...Who is always on the edge of ground breaking ideas... That the rest of the world is blind at...Kind of like The Wright Brothers...Columbus...Ancient Greek Democracy...What if they followed all of the lemmings...the naysayers...WHERE WOULD THE WORLD BE TODAY???...THINK ABOUT THAT!!!... :D :D :D ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby notyou2 on Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:14 pm

tzor wrote:
notyou2 wrote:The republicans have never shed any blood. You should vote for them.


Interesting I mention a specific and you counter with a generality.

If you want to know, however, NEVER VOTE FOR JEB BUSH.

Happy?


OK, here you go:
http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/rep-conyers-issues-report-identifying-26-laws-broken-by-bush-admin

Apparently Bush only broke 26 laws.

So did you vote for this criminal both times Tzor? Yeah, I thought so.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby warmonger1981 on Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:39 pm

Why not vote for people who can break the law without persecution?
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby notyou2 on Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:13 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:Why not vote for people who can break the law without persecution?


I think you need to move for that to occur.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby tzor on Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:13 pm

notyou2 wrote:So did you vote for this criminal both times Tzor? Yeah, I thought so.


Well I couldn't vote for Al Gore! Besides I didn't know him then.

I couldn't vote for Odo John Kerry. But honestly, apart from the revenge vote (take that you fucking hanging chad) I held my nose in 2004 when I voted. The Patriot act was vile.
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Re: Trump is finished

Postby iAmCaffeine on Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:31 am

tzor wrote:Besides I didn't know him then.

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