PKMN Beach Mafia: Cult Wins

by **rishaed** on Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:39 pm

BuJaber wrote:Since Lynch isn't official yet, I reckon I can still say something.

Rish and dakky both said they have a feeling I'm town but kept their votes on me. I still think dakky is town, but that's something to look at more closely going forward because it sounds like maybe they wanted a defense when people start analyzing the bandwagon.

Good luck

Correction. My vote is NOT on you. And while i thought that you might have been town, you made any sort of defense literally impossible from a D1 perspective. Theres not much else to say on that.

by **dakky21** on Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:37 pm

BuJaber wrote:Since Lynch isn't official yet, I reckon I can still say something.

Rish and dakky both said they have a feeling I'm town but kept their votes on me. I still think dakky is town, but that's something to look at more closely going forward because it sounds like maybe they wanted a defense when people start analyzing the bandwagon.

Good luck

Lynch isn't official yet, but you're dead. Anyway, you really acted weird this game, I was hooked by your play from the start. Lately, so much defending and trying to escape the lynch could mean only two things - screaming scum or screaming town. If it was the latter, and it obviously was, then the meta was wrong. Sorry in that case.

by **DoomYoshi** on Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:12 pm

As the day progressed, one grumpy Pokemon was drawing a lot of attention.
Graveler:"I hate the beach, I don't want to be at the beach, I can't swim and I just get sunburnt."
Others:"Why don't you go swimming?"
G:"Because I would sink"
O:"Who ever heard of not swimming. We are at a beach, after all."
G:"I didn't want to be at the beach!!!"
O:"Dude, there is something wrong with you... who doesn't like the beach? There's so much fun stuff to do... like swimming! Yay! Swimming!"

So they threw him in the water, but not in the way he wanted.

BuJaber, Town Suicidal Bulletproof Graveler has been thrown into the water. He sank, and subsequently fainted.

This is all that's left of him:

Click image to enlarge.

Night 1 Begins. Iron Butterfly will be replaced.

Deadline: 48 Hours (August 12th at this time)

by **dakky21** on Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:19 pm

I don't see no night talk rule so I'll just say - BuJaber was surely Suicidal. Too bad he was town, but that means he might have already won this game with his 2nd Win Condition....?! That only means we were too blind to see he wanted to die, if that's the case.

by **DoomYoshi** on Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:35 am

New rule: No night talk.

by **DoomYoshi** on Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:53 pm

All actions are received. I am going to send out some PMs and then post the scene.

by **DoomYoshi** on Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:22 pm

As the evening continued, the trainers never came back. One trainer was found - he had fallen off a cliff while looking for his phone. All night, the cries of his pokemon echoed through the beach.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/pokemon/images/0/07/134.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20101009050423

Meanwhile, a hulking behemoth tiptoed through the sand and espied a water Pokemon smoking bellsprouts and passing them around!
As he creeped back to his bed, he was blinded by acid and then fainted.

Overall, the atmosphere in the beach had turned sour. While before some were enjoying themselves, the beach now seemed a place totally bereft of joy. So many evil deeds had taken place in the night, it was difficult to avoid talking about it.

Gregwolf121, Town Tracker/Watcher Rhyhorn has fainted!

Day 2 Begins. Deadline: August 19th (a day later since I'm out of town most of next week)

by **dakky21** on Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:39 pm

If you ask me, I'd lynch Tim right away. But, as my previous meta on Bu was wrong, that one might be wrong as well. On the other hand there are people who posted nothing but stayed alive... like HotShot, strike wolf and william18 with 7 posts in all 8 pages of the thread. AoG, mitch and Marashu have 8 posts in all 8 pages. Including those for signing up. The rest were more active. Post count doesn't need to be something important, but the less you post, the less is the chance you'll get caught if you're scum. So I think we should concentrate on someone of those.

by **rishaed** on Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:47 pm

dakky21 wrote:If you ask me, I'd lynch Tim right away. But, as my previous meta on Bu was wrong, that one might be wrong as well. On the other hand there are people who posted nothing but stayed alive... like HotShot, strike wolf and william18 with 7 posts in all 8 pages of the thread. AoG, mitch and Marashu have 8 posts in all 8 pages. Including those for signing up. The rest were more active. Post count doesn't need to be something important, but the less you post, the less is the chance you'll get caught if you're scum. So I think we should concentrate on someone of those.

Ok First off.. I think previous meta was off on BuJ b/c of the secondary WC. He was aiming for probably getting targeted in teh night. Secondly I'm wondering why nobody even questioned it. I brought it up multiple times that something was off, and nobody listened to me.
For the main people driving the lynch i want to know why.
That includes Mandy, mitch, and Marashu, as well as AoG for hammering.

While I know he made it almost impossible to defend, that many flags this early is not something normal. Even for new players. Why then did nobody other than me bring this up.
This list is who i'm looking at for today for my initial vote.

by **dakky21** on Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:15 pm

Rish, why are you excluding Tim? He writes bad, but till when we will allow that? that is his excuse every game! No one understands what he means and he can be scum as well as town. I don't get it. So if you're consistent in writing crap, then you can get a free pass every game? Good strategy as it looks to me.

I'm not saying I disagree with you on mandy, mitch and marashu, and AoG for hammer (which was not needed, as BuJ would get lynched anyway), just saying to take a deeper view into the situation. If AoG was scum, he wouldn't risk the hammer few hours before a sure lynch. So that was either a masterpiece move or a bad town hammer. I'd stay off AoG for now. That leaves mandy, mitch and marashu.

Marashu accepted my vote on BuJ like it was nothing important:

Marashu wrote:I see I'm not the only one who had flags raised with that statement. Town want to hit scum, scum doesn't care who gets hit as long as it isn't them. Also, I think this might be a game worth keeping an eye on vote history for, because of the secondary win conditions. (Also, I don't know what types of personal wincons scum might have, but I'm not sure if they can trust each other, if it means that one can get a personal win at the cost of bussing their partners. Something to consider.) Either way,
Vote BuJ.

But said something important... personal wincons of scum... bussing their partners...

So my first vote would go to him as he accepted my reasoning without his own reasons and mentioned that his win condition may be to bus his partners. Just so they know.

vote Marashu

by **Iron Butterfly** on Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:56 pm

I am back. Srry. Anyways I due agree that secundary win cunditions will make things a bit cmplicated. I would certianly tend 2 believe that 1 must look at the members that elected Buj to the lynch. 4 the watchful, YES my writing is a bit ahd. AEIU....Gawd what's missing? What a pain in the ass.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:05 am

dakky21 wrote:If you ask me, I'd lynch Tim right away. But, as my previous meta on Bu was wrong, that one might be wrong as well. On the other hand there are people who posted nothing but stayed alive... like HotShot, strike wolf and william18 with 7 posts in all 8 pages of the thread. AoG, mitch and Marashu have 8 posts in all 8 pages. Including those for signing up. The rest were more active. Post count doesn't need to be something important, but the less you post, the less is the chance you'll get caught if you're scum. So I think we should concentrate on someone of those.

U listed what 7 players? The # af pusts will nut dictate alighnment. Why did u nit luuk at the bandwagon with Buj? I beleive mure mafia will be with him then guessing whu the scum is amoung meager pisters.

by **rishaed** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:29 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:
dakky21 wrote:If you ask me, I'd lynch Tim right away. But, as my previous meta on Bu was wrong, that one might be wrong as well. On the other hand there are people who posted nothing but stayed alive... like HotShot, strike wolf and william18 with 7 posts in all 8 pages of the thread. AoG, mitch and Marashu have 8 posts in all 8 pages. Including those for signing up. The rest were more active. Post count doesn't need to be something important, but the less you post, the less is the chance you'll get caught if you're scum. So I think we should concentrate on someone of those.

U listed what 7 players? The # af pusts will nut dictate alighnment. Why did u nit luuk at the bandwagon with Buj? I beleive mure mafia will be with him then guessing whu the scum is amoung meager pisters.

IB. You're drunk. Go Home and sleep until you can make a decent post. :lol:

I honestly don't know what you're trying to say, but mafia's not a game you play drunk.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:44 am

Grrrr. nit funny.

by **mandalorian2298** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:49 am

rishaed wrote:
dakky21 wrote:If you ask me, I'd lynch Tim right away. But, as my previous meta on Bu was wrong, that one might be wrong as well. On the other hand there are people who posted nothing but stayed alive... like HotShot, strike wolf and william18 with 7 posts in all 8 pages of the thread. AoG, mitch and Marashu have 8 posts in all 8 pages. Including those for signing up. The rest were more active. Post count doesn't need to be something important, but the less you post, the less is the chance you'll get caught if you're scum. So I think we should concentrate on someone of those.

Ok First off.. I think previous meta was off on BuJ b/c of the secondary WC. He was aiming for probably getting targeted in teh night. Secondly I'm wondering why nobody even questioned it. I brought it up multiple times that something was off, and nobody listened to me.
For the main people driving the lynch i want to know why.
That includes Mandy, mitch, and Marashu, as well as AoG for hammering.

While I know he made it almost impossible to defend, that many flags this early is not something normal. Even for new players. Why then did nobody other than me bring this up.
This list is who i'm looking at for today for my initial vote.

Simple, I never give much thought to the possibility of there being Jester. I find it to be a good long-term strategy, since Jester is not a very common role around these here parts.

by **mandalorian2298** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:51 am

Iron Butterfly wrote::evil: Grrrr. nit funny.

You called him a nit! :lol:

by **Marashu** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:26 am

dakky21 wrote:Marashu accepted my vote on BuJ like it was nothing important:
Marashu wrote:I see I'm not the only one who had flags raised with that statement. Town want to hit scum, scum doesn't care who gets hit as long as it isn't them. Also, I think this might be a game worth keeping an eye on vote history for, because of the secondary win conditions. (Also, I don't know what types of personal wincons scum might have, but I'm not sure if they can trust each other, if it means that one can get a personal win at the cost of bussing their partners. Something to consider.) Either way,
Vote BuJ.

But said something important... personal wincons of scum... bussing their partners...

So my first vote would go to him as he accepted my reasoning without his own reasons and mentioned that his win condition may be to bus his partners. Just so they know.

vote Marashu

Yes, because I'm mafia, and I'm playing against my wincon by warning everybody against it, and bussing my partner BuJ. </sarcasm>

Why I voted for him is simple - I thought he was scum. The post you quoted is when I first started feeling that (that is, the post I was reacting to in the post you quoted: his post about wanting to split the vote), but it was not the only reason. The part that really drove it home for me was how he wasn't willing to commit, and was defending his top scum reads, as though it might come back to hurt him later. Obviously, I was wrong. Also, this might be an unpopular opinion, but I just want to get out there right now that because of the way greg flipped, I'm not entirely convinced that "Suicidal" is necessarily his 2nd wincon, and he might have had some kind of self-destruct ability after all.

I would definitely be ok with a Tim or a mitch lynch today. AoG and strike are coming off as town to me. I didn't like dakky's attitude near the end of the lynch, but he's otherwise been playing pretty towny, so I'm not sure how I feel about him. We might need to keep Tim around to translate IB today, though.

by **dakky21** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:03 am

IB obviously got some post restriction (like Turperbuoco in Streaker's game) and who did that to him should claim as soon as possible. I don't believe mafia would have that role, unless he is faking it, which is another thing to consider, especially if no one claims to have that power.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:44 am

I think I know the person who drew that Rhino....

by **madmitch** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:46 pm

First off all I am sadden by the loss of two town members,I thought BuJaber was town but he kept switching his abilities and made it hard to defend him .Dakky was the fist to jump on him but Marashu you quickly followed with no clear reason and you have the nerve to want to hang me because I also finally voted for him. Rishaed you have not had any helpful info except that you want to be hugged.I thought I.B. spelling was off because he was smoking the poor bellsprout pokemon but if you read his post he is asking why (y) ? and I also think he was making a reference to Dakky when he kept using u's . I believe Tim is town , I believe he is chichou , but there sounds like there is a acid spitting pokemon out there 8-[

and we better be careful

by **Iron Butterfly** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:39 pm

dakky21 wrote:IB obviously got some post restriction (like Turperbuoco in Streaker's game) and who did that to him should claim as soon as possible. I don't believe mafia would have that role, unless he is faking it, which is another thing to consider, especially if no one claims to have that power.

cinsider this. If I screw up 1 mure time with this PR I die. I am n-t supp_se 2 use a specific v_wl. I get three strikes and I'm faints ville. Like an idi_t I have screwed up twice using a letter I sh_uld n_t have.

I have never had a p_st restricti_n that I used.

2 Dakky...... What if the player wh_ gave me this PR has a win c_nditi_n inv_lving it ur in seeing I die?

2nd u assume u understand the nature uv the r_le. I was given this stupid ass pr 4 2day. It is very p_ssible that this r-le is 1 uve several randem effects.

I due n_t believe h_wever that the player wh_ gave me this is mafia thugh if I mess up 1 m_re time it is game _ver.

by **madmitch** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:53 pm

W0W WHAT p0st restricti0n,can y0u use zero instead 0f o?

by **aage** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:28 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
dakky21 wrote:IB obviously got some post restriction (like Turperbuoco in Streaker's game) and who did that to him should claim as soon as possible. I don't believe mafia would have that role, unless he is faking it, which is another thing to consider, especially if no one claims to have that power.

cinsider this. If I screw up 1 mure time with this PR I die. I am n-t supp_se 2 use a specific v_wl. I get three strikes and I'm faints ville. Like an idi_t I have screwed up twice using a letter I sh_uld n_t have.

I have never had a p_st restricti_n that I used.

2 Dakky...... What if the player wh_ gave me this PR has a win c_nditi_n inv_lving it ur in seeing I die?

2nd u assume u understand the nature uv the r_le. I was given this stupid ass pr 4 2day. It is very p_ssible that this r-le is 1 uve several randem effects.

I due n_t believe h_wever that the player wh_ gave me this is mafia thugh if I mess up 1 m_re time it is game _ver.

That's ridiculous. Does that mean you technically can't vote?

by **Army of GOD** on Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:51 pm

rishaed wrote:That includes Mandy, mitch, and Marashu, as well as AoG for hammering.

I hammered because the day was almost over and I didn't see a point to twiddling our thumbs to wait for the timer to hit 0. I was leaning scum on BuJ so I had no issue with it, but BuJ wasn't my first choice for scum either. I didn't see any harm in hammering the vote since no one was bothering to change their votes anyway