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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:58 am

saxitoxin wrote:Finally.

It took a year but revenge is a dish best served cold; Erdogan will suffer payback x100. Oleg Peshkov is avenged.

An army group in Turkey says it has taken control of the country, with bridges closed in Istanbul and aircraft flying low over Ankara.

Traffic has been stopped from crossing both the Bosphorus and Fatih Sultan Mehmet bridges in Istanbul.

There are reports of gunshots in the capital Ankara.

Gunfire was also heard outside Istanbul police HQ and tanks are said to be stationed outside Istanbul airport. All flights are cancelled.

A statement from the military group read out on NTV television said: "The power in the country has been seized in its entirety."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083


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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby patches70 on Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:06 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:Looks like Patches's crush for Saxi is down right X rated.

Erdogan is going to defeat this coup.



You do realize, that after Erdogan arrested 100's of soldiers, judges, prosecutors, lawyers, his first act is to suspend all US bombing operations against ISIS from Incirlik Airbase?
You didn't realize that did you?
http://turkey.usembassy.gov/sm-071616.html

Above is the message from the US Embassy in Turkey, power has been cut to Incirlik which, coincidentally, the US vaults fifty B61 Nuclear bombs at Incirlik.

At the moment the US is trying to determine why Erdogan made this decision and is trying to get rights to fly out out Incirlik again. The US bombing efforts against ISIS are routed mainly from Incirlik.

I guess you don't want the US bombing ISIS?
Why are you stroking Erdogen's cock, Bernie? You like to swing that way I suppose. Ya got a little Turk inside ya?

EDIT: And LOL at you posting after the coup is crushed that Erdogen is going to crush the coup. Way to pony up there Bernie! You late to the party sack of shit.
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:05 pm

ITT we learn Bernie supports Erdogan -

The wife of the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, has hailed the harem of the Ottoman sultans as “a school for preparing women for life”.

Emine Erdoğan’s comments were made a day after the president caused protests by saying he believed that “a woman is above all a mother” in a speech marking International Women’s Day. Critics have accused Erdoğan’s government of curtailing women’s civil liberties. President Erdoğan has been criticised for urging Turkish women to have at least three children and railing against efforts to promote birth control as “treason”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... -for-women
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:17 pm

Loving the love affair between you two.
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:00 pm

Erdogan's party now saying Obama administration behind coup -

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/754357505124339713
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:32 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Erdogan's party now saying Obama administration behind coup -

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/754357505124339713


How silly are you?
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:11 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Erdogan's party now saying Obama administration behind coup -

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/754357505124339713


How silly are you?


Bernie is between a rock and a hard place - his heroes are now aligned against each other. Which will he choose?
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:27 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Erdogan's party now saying Obama administration behind coup -

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/754357505124339713


How silly are you?


Bernie is between a rock and a hard place - his heroes are now aligned against each other. Which will he choose?

Is this the best shot in the dark you can do?

Accept your failure in your thread. See ya kiddo in 2017.
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:52 pm

Bernie's buddy -

Aftermath of Turkey coup attempt will be bloody and repressive

Mob rule will shape country’s politics as attacks on anyone seen to oppose Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and his regime continue

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... 1468686787
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby GoranZ on Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:02 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Finally.

It took a year but revenge is a dish best served cold; Erdogan will suffer payback x100. Oleg Peshkov is avenged.

An army group in Turkey says it has taken control of the country, with bridges closed in Istanbul and aircraft flying low over Ankara.

Traffic has been stopped from crossing both the Bosphorus and Fatih Sultan Mehmet bridges in Istanbul.

There are reports of gunshots in the capital Ankara.

Gunfire was also heard outside Istanbul police HQ and tanks are said to be stationed outside Istanbul airport. All flights are cancelled.

A statement from the military group read out on NTV television said: "The power in the country has been seized in its entirety."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083


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Wrong, Saxi's dream is live and kicking. Maybe Erdogan even faked his own coup(similar number of soldiers and judges are facing treason charges, I can understand the charges for the soldiers, but not for the judges) in order to wield more power but regardless of the outcome Erdogan will increase his power but Turkey will become weaker then ever... And we all know who will exploit Turkey's weakens. Touche ;)
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby waauw on Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:33 am

GoranZ wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Finally.

It took a year but revenge is a dish best served cold; Erdogan will suffer payback x100. Oleg Peshkov is avenged.

An army group in Turkey says it has taken control of the country, with bridges closed in Istanbul and aircraft flying low over Ankara.

Traffic has been stopped from crossing both the Bosphorus and Fatih Sultan Mehmet bridges in Istanbul.

There are reports of gunshots in the capital Ankara.

Gunfire was also heard outside Istanbul police HQ and tanks are said to be stationed outside Istanbul airport. All flights are cancelled.

A statement from the military group read out on NTV television said: "The power in the country has been seized in its entirety."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083


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Wrong, Saxi's dream is live and kicking. Maybe Erdogan even faked his own coup(similar number of soldiers and judges are facing treason charges, I can understand the charges for the soldiers, but not for the judges) in order to wield more power but regardless of the outcome Erdogan will increase his power but Turkey will become weaker then ever... And we all know who will exploit Turkey's weakens. Touche ;)


The Kurds?
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:32 am

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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:38 am

Finally GoranZ from the economic disaster zone of Macedonia, coming to Saxi's failed prediction thread.

You should be trying to improve your country's economy, instead of trying to drag Turkey down to the economic disasters of Macedonia and Russia.
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby waauw on Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:20 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:Finally GoranZ from the economic disaster zone of Macedonia, coming to Saxi's failed prediction thread.

You should be trying to improve your country's economy, instead of trying to drag Turkey down to the economic disasters of Macedonia and Russia.


Or maybe he should drag Turkey down too.
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby GoranZ on Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:56 am

waauw wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Finally.

It took a year but revenge is a dish best served cold; Erdogan will suffer payback x100. Oleg Peshkov is avenged.

An army group in Turkey says it has taken control of the country, with bridges closed in Istanbul and aircraft flying low over Ankara.

Traffic has been stopped from crossing both the Bosphorus and Fatih Sultan Mehmet bridges in Istanbul.

There are reports of gunshots in the capital Ankara.

Gunfire was also heard outside Istanbul police HQ and tanks are said to be stationed outside Istanbul airport. All flights are cancelled.

A statement from the military group read out on NTV television said: "The power in the country has been seized in its entirety."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083


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Wrong, Saxi's dream is live and kicking. Maybe Erdogan even faked his own coup(similar number of soldiers and judges are facing treason charges, I can understand the charges for the soldiers, but not for the judges) in order to wield more power but regardless of the outcome Erdogan will increase his power but Turkey will become weaker then ever... And we all know who will exploit Turkey's weakens. Touche ;)


The Kurds?

The list is quite long, and the Kurds are on it.

Bernie Sanders wrote:Finally GoranZ from the economic disaster zone of Macedonia, coming to Saxi's failed prediction thread.

You should be trying to improve your country's economy, instead of trying to drag Turkey down to the economic disasters of Macedonia and Russia.

And your best reply is "economic disasters of Macedonia and Russia"? You should have taken your pills :lol:, this is thread about Turkish Military Coup ;)
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:07 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:Finally GoranZ from the economic disaster zone of Macedonia, coming to Saxi's failed prediction thread.

You should be trying to improve your country's economy, instead of trying to drag Turkey down to the economic disasters of Macedonia and Russia.


Um, Turkey was already an economic disaster and has been for the last year - as everyone agrees, it's only going to get worse from here on out as your friend Erdogan starts murdering and arresting the secular and progressive opposition -

Foreign visitors account for almost 10 per cent of Turkey's GDP, while more than 30 million visitors a year helps employ two million workers. Even before the coup attempt, Turkey expected a 40 per cent drop in tourists this year, a major blow to national revenues. Some of that loss was also due an absence of Russian visitors during the standoff between Russia and Turkey over the shooting down of a Russian warplane by Turkey. The two countries recently settled that dispute, following an apology by Turkey, but it is not at all clear that large numbers of Russians will want to risk holidays in so clearly unstable an area.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/brian-stew ... -1.3682088


Check out Kayak - you can get a Five-Star hotel with waterfront view in Istanbul right now for $38/night. The entire country is in a state of complete collapse. Coups are a symptom of a failed state, not the cause.
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:36 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:Looks like Patches's crush for Saxi is down right X rated.

Erdogan is going to defeat this coup.

You sound like you're happy about it. Please tell me you're not actually happy that Erdogan won. Because if you were, that would be a huge betrayal of the values you claim to profess.

Other than theological bullshit, there's not much difference between Islamic conservatives like Erdogan and Christian conservatives like Ted Cruz. They want to see pretty much everyone in jail who doesn't think like they do. They hate academics, because academics come up with facts and figures disproving the official lines of shit. They hate science, because it encourages freethinking and atheism. They hate the arts, because they suspect anyone who has any artistic leanings is a closet homosexual. Homosexuals they would like to see the death penalty for, but they're willing to compromise and tolerate them as long as they stay invisible. Women are okay, as long as they stay in the kitchen and don't open their mouth about things like the government that don't concern them. Poor people deserve whatever happens to them; they obviously didn't work hard enough. Evidence that they've worked a sixty hour week for sixty years and got fucked out of their savings by the bankers are just propaganda churned out by the academics.

Those thugs in the street protesting in favour of Erdogan? They're soccer hooligans. They're happy that Erdogan throws intellectuals in jail, because they don't trust any of that highfalutin' book larning anyway. They're happy he's throwing judges in jail, because they think discussions about the rule of law are a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Justice in their books would be just beating the shit out of alleged crimminals and letting them bleed to death in the street, and rules of evidence be damned.

The only difference between Erdogan and Cruz is the name they assign to the imaginary ghost in the sky that tells them how everyone is bad. If this is what you support, you've completely sold out the values that you implicitly support by calling yourself "Bernie Sanders."
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:44 am

Dukasaur wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:Looks like Patches's crush for Saxi is down right X rated.

Erdogan is going to defeat this coup.

You sound like you're happy about it. Please tell me you're not actually happy that Erdogan won. Because if you were, that would be a huge betrayal of the values you claim to profess.

Other than theological bullshit, there's not much difference between Islamic conservatives like Erdogan and Christian conservatives like Ted Cruz. They want to see pretty much everyone in jail who doesn't think like they do. They hate academics, because academics come up with facts and figures disproving the official lines of shit. They hate science, because it encourages freethinking and atheism. They hate the arts, because they suspect anyone who has any artistic leanings is a closet homosexual. Homosexuals they would like to see the death penalty for, but they're willing to compromise and tolerate them as long as they stay invisible. Women are okay, as long as they stay in the kitchen and don't open their mouth about things like the government that don't concern them. Poor people deserve whatever happens to them; they obviously didn't work hard enough. Evidence that they've worked a sixty hour week for sixty years and got fucked out of their savings by the bankers are just propaganda churned out by the academics.

Those thugs in the street protesting in favour of Erdogan? They're soccer hooligans. They're happy that Erdogan throws intellectuals in jail, because they don't trust any of that highfalutin' book larning anyway. They're happy he's throwing judges in jail, because they think discussions about the rule of law are a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Justice in their books would be just beating the shit out of alleged crimminals and letting them bleed to death in the street, and rules of evidence be damned.

The only difference between Erdogan and Cruz is the name they assign to the imaginary ghost in the sky that tells them how everyone is bad. If this is what you support, you've completely sold out the values that you implicitly support by calling yourself "Bernie Sanders."

You believe forcibly removing a leader who was voted in by the majority of their citizens as ok?

We can't have the military upsurt an elected government.
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:52 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:Looks like Patches's crush for Saxi is down right X rated.

Erdogan is going to defeat this coup.

You sound like you're happy about it. Please tell me you're not actually happy that Erdogan won. Because if you were, that would be a huge betrayal of the values you claim to profess.

Other than theological bullshit, there's not much difference between Islamic conservatives like Erdogan and Christian conservatives like Ted Cruz. They want to see pretty much everyone in jail who doesn't think like they do. They hate academics, because academics come up with facts and figures disproving the official lines of shit. They hate science, because it encourages freethinking and atheism. They hate the arts, because they suspect anyone who has any artistic leanings is a closet homosexual. Homosexuals they would like to see the death penalty for, but they're willing to compromise and tolerate them as long as they stay invisible. Women are okay, as long as they stay in the kitchen and don't open their mouth about things like the government that don't concern them. Poor people deserve whatever happens to them; they obviously didn't work hard enough. Evidence that they've worked a sixty hour week for sixty years and got fucked out of their savings by the bankers are just propaganda churned out by the academics.

Those thugs in the street protesting in favour of Erdogan? They're soccer hooligans. They're happy that Erdogan throws intellectuals in jail, because they don't trust any of that highfalutin' book larning anyway. They're happy he's throwing judges in jail, because they think discussions about the rule of law are a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Justice in their books would be just beating the shit out of alleged crimminals and letting them bleed to death in the street, and rules of evidence be damned.

The only difference between Erdogan and Cruz is the name they assign to the imaginary ghost in the sky that tells them how everyone is bad. If this is what you support, you've completely sold out the values that you implicitly support by calling yourself "Bernie Sanders."

You believe forcibly removing a leader who was voted in by the majority of their citizens as ok?

We can't have the military upsurt an elected government.


All things being equal, I prefer democratic elections to coups. However, I don't worship at the altar of democracy. It is a value I hold, but only one value among many. The rule of law and basic respect for rights trump democracy. When a duly-elected tyrant has been destroying rights is removed, then yes, I agree with it.

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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby patches70 on Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:13 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:You believe forcibly removing a leader who was voted in by the majority of their citizens as ok?

We can't have the military upsurt an elected government.


Lets put this in a way that is understandable to you.

Lets say that Obama begins trying to rewrite the constitution himself without the States input. He wants to eliminate the two term limit. The judges of course block this attempt. Obama responds having journalists tossed in prison and assassinated on the streets who don't work to convince the frothy leftist radicals to put pressure on local governments to support Obama's plans.
Obama starts purging the military replacing officers with leftist and communist ideological individuals. Obama sends in troops into Canada and Mexico to take control of some of oil fields and oil shale facilities. The profits from this stolen oil Obama puts into his own offshore accounts and the accounts of his friends and family.
Obama starts attempting to remove the authority of the courts through executive order, nationalizes the police forces into federal agents under his control.

Some military officers who might or might not have Tea Party affiliations attempt a coup which is crushed. After this attempted coup (justified for obvious reasons) is crushed, Obama arrests the Supreme Court who blocked his attempted rewriting of the Constitution, fires thousands of judges who ruled against any of his legislative attempts, arrests prosecutors who filed suit against his executive orders, arrests the governors of States who were critical of his policies, shuts down newspapers and media that were critical of his policies or refused to engage in his propaganda attempts.
Obama claims all those who were arrested and executed were all Tea Party members and says this is all justified to "preserve democracy". He then goes ahead and rewrites the Constitution that enables him to become a life long leader of the US with the right to name his successor.

That's what Erdogan has done and is doing.
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:30 pm

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You believe forcibly removing a leader who was voted in by the majority of their citizens as ok?

We can't have the military upsurt an elected government.


Lets put this in a way that is understandable to you.

Lets say that Obama begins trying to rewrite the constitution himself without the States input. He wants to eliminate the two term limit. The judges of course block this attempt. Obama responds having journalists tossed in prison and assassinated on the streets who don't work to convince the frothy leftist radicals to put pressure on local governments to support Obama's plans.
Obama starts purging the military replacing officers with leftist and communist ideological individuals. Obama sends in troops into Canada and Mexico to take control of some of oil fields and oil shale facilities. The profits from this stolen oil Obama puts into his own offshore accounts and the accounts of his friends and family.
Obama starts attempting to remove the authority of the courts through executive order, nationalizes the police forces into federal agents under his control.

Some military officers who might or might not have Tea Party affiliations attempt a coup which is crushed. After this attempted coup (justified for obvious reasons) is crushed, Obama arrests the Supreme Court who blocked his attempted rewriting of the Constitution, fires thousands of judges who ruled against any of his legislative attempts, arrests prosecutors who filed suit against his executive orders, arrests the governors of States who were critical of his policies, shuts down newspapers and media that were critical of his policies or refused to engage in his propaganda attempts.
Obama claims all those who were arrested and executed were all Tea Party members and says this is all justified to "preserve democracy". He then goes ahead and rewrites the Constitution that enables him to become a life long leader of the US with the right to name his successor.

That's what Erdogan has done and is doing.

Leave it to you, to use President Obama as some example for your example of tyrants.

I certainly don't need a mental midget to teach me about Democratic values.
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby patches70 on Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:39 pm

You are a freaking idiot, Bernie, it is a thought experiment. I used Obama because he is the current President, if it makes you feel better, go ahead and replace "Obama" with "Bush", it's ok with me, the message is exactly the same.

You are praising and supporting a regime that claims "democracy" while destroying that democracy. By your thinking the German people in 1938 wouldn't have been justified in removing their leader either. By your reasoning the attempted bombing by military officers of that same leader in 1944 would be an act you would condemn.


You don't know shit about democratic values. If you really believed the nonsense you pedal then you'd renounce your American citizenship and become a British citizen because after all, the Founding Fathers usurp control of the Americas from the British.

You are a particularly deluded individual. It's pretty hard for you to do a thought experiment when you aren't able to think.
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:54 pm

It seems Bernie hadn't heard the word "Erdogan" until 48 hours ago and decided to jump straight into the deep-end before trying the wading pool first.
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Re: Turkish Government Overthrown in Military Coup

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:58 pm

Bilgin Ciftci is facing up to two years in jail for insulting the president of Turkey after sharing images comparing Erdogan to Gollum.

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