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Metsfanmax wrote:How about Scotland?
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:How about Scotland?
What about Scotland. This vote was the whole uk, not parts.
Bernie Sanders wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:How about Scotland?
What about Scotland. This vote was the whole uk, not parts.
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Scotland voted to stay!
waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
waauw wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
True, both the EU and the UK are now screwed. There are no winners. Harsh decisions have to be made.
Then again, the EU doesn't have to destroy the British economy. That's in nobody's interest. All they will probably push for is a deal that makes the UK worse off than inside the EU. Personally I think we'll probably end up with a deal somewhere in the middle between what the UK used to get and what Switzerland and Norway get now, a compromise.
Some of the more annoying issues of course are Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar(to a much less important extent). The more likely it seems one of them is to leave the UK, the less strong the British position, and vice versa. Both the UK and the EU are on the clock now. The UK to dissuade these regions from independency, and the EU to dissuade their own opposition parties. So in a sense it's also a race about which movements develop the fastest.
betiko wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
sorry the EU has never been about the UK... it's about France and Germany since its inception. Have fun as you see your economy collapse!
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Conchobar wrote:The United Kingdom did not vote to leave the EU. England and Wales did.
Scotland should get another independence referendum and be allowed to stay in.
betiko wrote:The UK should give back Gibraltar to Spain. I'd stop hearing people around here whine about it.
tzor wrote:betiko wrote:The UK should give back Gibraltar to Spain. I'd stop hearing people around here whine about it.
They should give Gibraltar to the Prudential life insurance company. The Rock has been their logo since the 1890's.
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