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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:50 pm

riskllama wrote:imo, this is why religious types should not be allowed to run for public office as religion seems to taint fact and/or reason.


Lol NAME whatever gave the impression that I spoke in support of religion as a viable argument in this case, yes I did say religion was a constitutional right, try reading exactly what I said very close if you think i support religion just for religions sake in this,

And yes religion should not play any part in political maneuvers period.
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby riskllama on Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:55 pm

wasn't arguing, man - just sayin'
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby Symmetry on Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:07 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:In this case I specifically use GENDER , because it goes quickly to the point and sex is misleading in the context of this subject, because the one thing these people HAVE MANAGED TO DO is become neutrals by having organs that are useless for reproduction,

Actually I think that would be a MORE fitting term for what they now have become, neutral isn't as harsh and it has less possible offense, kinda like Switzerland, word association neutral Switzerland

Understand?


Not at all kiddo, if anything, I'm more confused by your posts. I suppose it sort of supports my point that you're unable to distinguish between a person's sex and their gender, and, of course, that you define people by their ability to be bear children.

That, at least, you clarified. The rest, I'm afraid, seems like a random series of nonsequiturs and a weird love of caps lock.
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:08 pm

riskllama wrote:wasn't arguing, man - just sayin'
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Okay gotcha

Just clarified my position just in case :D
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby Symmetry on Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:45 pm

North Carolina governor struggles to maintain fallout from anti-lgbt law:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/ncs-mccrory-struggles-undo-damage-anti-lgbt-law

TLDR version- he's asking legislators to allow lgbt folk to have legal rights, but is still funny about where they void their bowels.
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby warmonger1981 on Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:40 pm

On a serious note. Can anyone prove that there is a LGBT chromosome or gene? If science is absolute truth then this should be easy to prove.

So by riskllama suggestions 84% of the world's population can't hold political office. That leaves about 16% who can hold office. Out of that 16% how many people do you think are qualified or educated enough to make sound decisions for the other 84%? Your basically excluding 5+ billion people from weighing in on critical decisions. Sorry but I don't put faith in that low of a percentage of people to make decisions for the other 84%. That's like 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. Don't get me wrong. Religion should not play a factor in ones decision on political matters. But religion always plays a role in ones thinking.
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby Symmetry on Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:07 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:On a serious note. Can anyone prove that there is a LGBT chromosome or gene? If science is absolute truth then this should be easy to prove.


Kind of a straw man argument there monger, it's kinda BS to assume that science claims to be "absolute truth"- it's much more a methodology for testing claims.
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:45 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:On a serious note. Can anyone prove that there is a LGBT chromosome or gene? If science is absolute truth then this should be easy to prove.

So by riskllama suggestions 84% of the world's population can't hold political office. That leaves about 16% who can hold office. Out of that 16% how many people do you think are qualified or educated enough to make sound decisions for the other 84%? Your basically excluding 5+ billion people from weighing in on critical decisions. Sorry but I don't put faith in that low of a percentage of people to make decisions for the other 84%. That's like 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. Don't get me wrong. Religion should not play a factor in ones decision on political matters. But religion always plays a role in ones thinking.


I'm fairly certain I've addressed this to you several times in the past, and you always neglect to respond. But, it's not like I'm doing much else with my time.

Can you prove there is a straight gene? The presence of the proper equipment doesn't mean copulation is guaranteed. There has to be other systems in place to stimulate the organs, prepare the central nervous system, etc. Going back to the elephants, it's well documented that elephants will engage in homosexual acts. Growing up on a farm, I've seen pigs do stuff that could be considered such as well. Only today I saw my neighbor's (very large) mastiff trying to hump the neighborhood (male) tabby cat. So your belief that homo sex is unnatural is plainly wrong. These animals, with the possible exception of the elephant, don't "choose" in any sense of the human word.

Surely you can't believe that attraction is solely a sex chromosome characteristic? What determines other attractions, like non-homo? Why do all the renaissance paintings have ugly women in them? Seriously, have you seen the women in older paintings? They're all super pale, fat, practically chinless, and their eyes are buggy. Yet they were considered beautiful.

The study of genetics (and especially epigenetics) is still in its infancy. You're asking for proof of a gay gene when there's 3bil base pairs in the human genome, 30k coding genes, a vast multitude of others which aren't actively coding (but can be changed by protein interactions), etc. I suspect there isn't one single gene, it's probably like skin color, which is determined by several genes and their interactions.

Sym already addressed your warped view of science. Really it's a glorified method of investigation, nothing more.

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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby riskllama on Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:56 pm

ha! a "porn site" blocking NC viewers over this, awesome... :lol:
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby Symmetry on Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:59 pm

riskllama wrote:ha! a "porn site" blocking NC viewers over this, awesome... :lol:


Yeah, that was my favourite bit too :D
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby riskllama on Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:48 pm

gotta hit 'em where it hurts : pocketbook and porno.
take THAT, North Carolina!!!
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby warmonger1981 on Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:48 pm

I can't prove a straight gene nor can you prove a LGBT gene. So we can both agree people ( as of now) choose to be gay. Their not born that way. If they were not, science should be able to provide evidence to the contrary. Can you be more specific on these systems in place to stimulate the organs that prepare the central nervous system for gay tendencies . Some mamals just need to get sexual with anything. Its called horney. I've heard of people fucking dead deer in the ditch. Is this unnatural? If so why? Who gets to judge? How can you be so sure these animals don't "choose"? Is there any scientific evidence to back up your claim?

As far as the painting thing you just answered your own question. It was considered beautiful at that time. Pale skin was considered sexy in European culture. In the Philippines I'm sure it wasn't. That's a geographical perception on beauty.


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If science cannot prove absolute truth then why do you believe in it as if it was absolute? You use science to try and prove absolutes in one instance. Then in the other instance you claim science is not absolute. Make up your mind. Quit sitting on the fence.
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:45 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:I can't prove a straight gene nor can you prove a LGBT gene. So we can both agree people ( as of now) choose to be gay. Their not born that way. If they were not, science should be able to provide evidence to the contrary.

I wanted to bad translate this, but they only allow 80 characters and have a daily limit now. So...

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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby ConfederateSS on Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:34 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
warmonger1981 wrote:I can't prove a straight gene nor can you prove a LGBT gene. So we can both agree people ( as of now) choose to be gay. Their not born that way. If they were not, science should be able to provide evidence to the contrary.

I wanted to bad translate this, but they only allow 80 characters and have a daily limit now. So...

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-------Awesome...I'll make sure I use 81+ characters from now on. :D Thanks for the tip Andy. ;)
-------As for couples. What business is it for the government or whoever. When it comes to who is with who.
-------As for bathrooms/etc... The last time I checked. Don't they all have stalls. This shouldn't even be an issue. If people used common sense. If people wouldn't do their business(urinals). Or change in front of others. Who would know?
-------The hell with it. Instead of 3rd bathrooms being added. Or people forced to use their gender. pictures... I say make everywhere have one bathroom/etc. Like Airplanes... Everyone can wait in one big line. Have that warm everybody loves everybody feeling. Or it just maybe that warm,everyone peeing on themselves feeling. :lol: Because no one has common sense anymore. Everyone must cater to everyone else's way. Because everyone thinks the world must bow to their beliefs. Instead of thinking of others first.
-------When are people going to realize. There are things we all can't do. But rather than accept that fact. People try and make the world revolve around them. When I was growing up. At a public event(baseball game). People who ask my Father,"Do you mind if I smoke". My Father would ask us,we would shake our heads no. He would tell the person no go ahead. Imagine that. People use to take the time to care about others go figure.
-------Lets say some is allergic to peanuts. Should MLB ban peanuts at all baseball stadiums. Or should that person realize they are allergic and stay away from MLB ball parks. Instead of making the world revolve around them and get peanuts banned. So no one else can enjoy peanuts at a ball game.
-------Lets say I was at one of my daughter's softballs games. Was eating peanuts. Someone came to the game. Asked me could I stop because they are allergic. I would say sure. Or I would move and find some where else to sit out of respect for other people's feelings. Imagine that. People respecting others. By talking. Instead of demanding...What a world we used to be raised in. Imagine. These poor suckers that live and grow up in today's it all about me world. :(
-------Because,I don't know how a 3rd type of person. Could undress in front of, lets say a 12 year old girl. Then pull some kind of gender crap. To wiggle out of the girl's father beating the crap out of him/her. Because how will anyone know who is really who? A 3rd type of person or a predator? :? ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby warmonger1981 on Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:21 pm

Andy back!!!! Aren't you that guy from Shawshank Redemption who got raped repeatedly in the bathrooms and laundry rooms? Your ass must hurt. Or maybe not. You might like large objects in your rectum. Good to see you back. I missed you and your lame attempts to troll me.
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:11 pm

ConfederateSS wrote:-------As for bathrooms/etc... The last time I checked. Don't they all have stalls. This shouldn't even be an issue. If people used common sense. If people wouldn't do their business(urinals). Or change in front of others. Who would know?
-------The hell with it. Instead of 3rd bathrooms being added. Or people forced to use their gender. pictures... I say make everywhere have one bathroom/etc. Like Airplanes... Everyone can wait in one big line. Have that warm everybody loves everybody feeling. Or it just maybe that warm,everyone peeing on themselves feeling. :lol:

When I was 14, I went to Paris with my mother. My mom went and used a public bathroom, and she came out and said, "there's a whore using the sink as a bidet! How am I supposed to wash my hands?"

I was 14, of course, so I was very jealous. I would have loved to see a whore squatting over the sink.

Point being, stalls don't solve everything. There's still some embarrassing stuff going on in the common areas of the washroom.
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby riskllama on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:17 pm

gotta keep the goods clean somehow, duk... 8-)
i save all my wet naps from kfc in the glovebox of my truck for that very reason...
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:18 pm

riskllama wrote:gotta keep the goods clean somehow, duk... 8-)

No argument there...:)
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby warmonger1981 on Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:55 am

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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby jgordon1111 on Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:39 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
ConfederateSS wrote:-------As for bathrooms/etc... The last time I checked. Don't they all have stalls. This shouldn't even be an issue. If people used common sense. If people wouldn't do their business(urinals). Or change in front of others. Who would know?
-------The hell with it. Instead of 3rd bathrooms being added. Or people forced to use their gender. pictures... I say make everywhere have one bathroom/etc. Like Airplanes... Everyone can wait in one big line. Have that warm everybody loves everybody feeling. Or it just maybe that warm,everyone peeing on themselves feeling. :lol:

When I was 14, I went to Paris with my mother. My mom went and used a public bathroom, and she came out and said, "there's a whore using the sink as a bidet! How am I supposed to wash my hands?"

I was 14, of course, so I was very jealous. I would have loved to see a whore squatting over the sink.

Point being, stalls don't solve everything. There's still some embarrassing stuff going on in the common areas of the washroom.


Meh Duk, Paris sucks middle 80's older part of Paris they still dumped chamber pots out the Windows at 9 pm
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:59 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:Andy back!!!! Aren't you that guy from Shawshank Redemption who got raped repeatedly in the bathrooms and laundry rooms? Your ass must hurt. Or maybe not. You might like large objects in your rectum. Good to see you back. I missed you and your lame attempts to troll me.


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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby warmonger1981 on Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:17 am

More of a Space Balls fan.
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Seriously good to see you. I missed my little groupie.
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby Symmetry on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:30 am

warmonger1981 wrote:I can't prove a straight gene nor can you prove a LGBT gene. So we can both agree people ( as of now) choose to be gay. Their not born that way. If they were not, science should be able to provide evidence to the contrary. Can you be more specific on these systems in place to stimulate the organs that prepare the central nervous system for gay tendencies . Some mamals just need to get sexual with anything. Its called horney. I've heard of people fucking dead deer in the ditch. Is this unnatural? If so why? Who gets to judge? How can you be so sure these animals don't "choose"? Is there any scientific evidence to back up your claim?

As far as the painting thing you just answered your own question. It was considered beautiful at that time. Pale skin was considered sexy in European culture. In the Philippines I'm sure it wasn't. That's a geographical perception on beauty.


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If science cannot prove absolute truth then why do you believe in it as if it was absolute? You use science to try and prove absolutes in one instance. Then in the other instance you claim science is not absolute. Make up your mind. Quit sitting on the fence.


I think we've covered your nonsense arguments about what science is already, mate. You didn't have a clue before, and you don't seem to have taken on board the criticisms that people willing to engage with your nonsense have provided.

Do you understand the meaning of a proof in scientific terms? Or are you flailing around in the hope that your ignorance will reach some sort of critical mass where it's no longer feasible to stop?
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby warmonger1981 on Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:58 pm

Science is not absolute. End of story silly. Please address my questions specifically one by one. I'm willing to learn as long as you are very specific. Take each question and wlk me through step by step.

A. Can you be more specific on these systems in place to stimulate the organs that prepare the central nervous system for gay tendencies .


B.I've heard of people fucking dead deer in the ditch. Is this unnatural? If so why?

C.How can you be so sure these animals don't "choose"? Is there any scientific evidence to back up your claim?


I would like to know the actual sciences behind my questions. I'm actually interested in the specifics.
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Re: anti-lgbt law HB2 I'm from North Carolina

Postby Symmetry on Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:57 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:Science is not absolute. End of story silly. Please address my questions specifically one by one. I'm willing to learn as long as you are very specific. Take each question and wlk me through step by step.

A. Can you be more specific on these systems in place to stimulate the organs that prepare the central nervous system for gay tendencies .


B.I've heard of people fucking dead deer in the ditch. Is this unnatural? If so why?

C.How can you be so sure these animals don't "choose"? Is there any scientific evidence to back up your claim?


I would like to know the actual sciences behind my questions. I'm actually interested in the specifics.


I have no idea what A) means.

B) I have no idea if you hearing necrophilic bestiality stories is natural or not. Seems like a question you should ask yourself about the people you hang around with.

C) If the deer are dead, I think choice is out of the equation entirely for them.

Hopefully, I've been very specific.
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