cockroach problem

[Bernie Sanders]

That is the one critter in the world I have a REAL problem with....all those years in hawaii with tons of them....*shudder*....in St Thomas, they call em Mahogany Birds and like them....WTF, over? I have keeelled many many of those disgusting vermin. Thank the gods we dunna have em in oregon....

There are no cockroaches in Oregon - I want to move to Oregon - but they all have bumper stickers which say - "Oregon - it's a nice place to visit - but we don't want you to live here".

Funny enough, the same rings true for Wyoming. No roaches, nice place to visit, but we have a bit more luck with the "we don't want you to live here" part.

Every major city has cockroaches.

[tzor]

They're called a 'skull' and 'rib cage'.

The original design specs for the skull is to allow to collapse somewhat to allow the brain to go through the birth canal. This even when developed it is still very easy to bash someone's brains in.

The original design specs for the rib cage is to provide solid resistance when the diaphragm pushes into the lungs to force air out. (In other animals such as dinosaurs without diaphragms muscles in the rib cage forced the rib cage to enlarge and contract doing a similar but lesser function.

Neither is designed for protection from massive force impacts, unlike the exoskeleton of a cockroach.

[tzor]

Every major city has cockroaches.

I would hope that there was at least one major city without Democrats.

[mrswdk]

They're called a 'skull' and 'rib cage'.

The original design specs for the skull is to allow to collapse somewhat to allow the brain to go through the birth canal. This even when developed it is still very easy to bash someone's brains in.

The original design specs for the rib cage is to provide solid resistance when the diaphragm pushes into the lungs to force air out. (In other animals such as dinosaurs without diaphragms muscles in the rib cage forced the rib cage to enlarge and contract doing a similar but lesser function.

Neither is designed for protection from massive force impacts, unlike the exoskeleton of a cockroach.

designed

lol

[TA1LGUNN3R]

They're called a 'skull' and 'rib cage'.

The original design specs for the skull is to allow to collapse somewhat to allow the brain to go through the birth canal. This even when developed it is still very easy to bash someone's brains in.

The original design specs for the rib cage is to provide solid resistance when the diaphragm pushes into the lungs to force air out. (In other animals such as dinosaurs without diaphragms muscles in the rib cage forced the rib cage to enlarge and contract doing a similar but lesser function.

Neither is designed for protection from massive force impacts, unlike the exoskeleton of a cockroach.

It's easy to bash someone's brains in because cranial plates are pretty thin. Sutures are fairly elastic and actually help keep the skull intact, much like old skyscrapers are more prone to collapse in an earthquake because they're too rigid.

The original function of a rib cage is to protect organs and provide attachment sites for muscles. The diaphragm does not push against the lungs the way you think it does. When the diaphragm contracts, it drops and flattens, pulling the lungs and dropping their internal pressure, thus allowing influx of air. Release of the contraction allows the pressures to return to normal and equalize.

Anyway, your argument is silly. Your original point that mrs (correctly) contested was that humans "[have] absolutely no protection to vital organs whatsoever." They do, they have plenty, otherwise our organs would be sitting right around our assholes.

-TG

[notyou2]

But I like the "design" part. What an inventive term for nature that has no designs, it simply goes with the flow. You're funny tzor.

[mrswdk]

Anything wants to sit near my asshole it better give me some LV first.

[notyou2]

:lol: 50+ years and I havent seen one 'o them....lol

That is the one critter in the world I have a REAL problem with....all those years in hawaii with tons of them....*shudder*....in St Thomas, they call em Mahogany Birds and like them....WTF, over? I have keeelled many many of those disgusting vermin. Thank the gods we dunna have em in oregon....

There are no cockroaches in Oregon - I want to move to Oregon - but they all have bumper stickers which say - "Oregon - it's a nice place to visit - but we don't want you to live here".

I thought Oregon legalized roaches.

[Dukasaur]

pretty precise cut solution but no matter how disgusting it looks is it moral to catch a living creature then throw it up down from 7th floor through ground ?

Terminal velocity is pretty low for beetles. (Yes, cockroaches are beetles.) I suspect you could drop it from the Sears Tower and it would live.

If you could kill it that way, would it be less moral that killing it any other way? I don't think so. Most people kill insects with a variety of poisons. I don't know if anyone's every studied the suffering involved, but I'm sure at least some of these modes of death are quite painful. Killing something swiftly with a violent blow is quite likely less painful that being poisoned.

[Bernie Sanders]

Every major city has cockroaches.

I would hope that there was at least one major city without Democrats.

I wish we can actually have a Republican candidate for President who believes in evolution and human effect on global weather.

[tzor]

designed

Yes, "designed." You never heard of this thing called "evolution?"

Evolution, through the survival of the fittest, "designs" things in living being beings. It is a simple fact, more things step on cockroaches than they do on people. Cockroaches that didn't survive this died. Humans, never having to be stepped on all the time, never had to have the thick skull people surviving over the thin skull people.

[tzor]

I wish we can actually have a Republican candidate for President who believes in evolution and human effect on global weather.

I would rather have a candidate that believes that human beings are human beings from the moment of conception than one who believes in evolution.

Because there is nothing in policy that can be influenced by not believing in evolution.

IN fact I would rather have a candidate not believe in revolution than a candidate not believe in supply and demand. The former doesn't whack you in the backside when you attempt to ignore it. The later does all the time. Isn't that right, Mr. I want to have everyone with a college degree candidate?

As for the later, no one ever asks that question in the real world. They claim to ask the question in the real world, but the question is asked is CO2 emissions from the developed nations (outside of China) on global weather and whether or not raising taxes and destroying the US power grid is going to significantly stop this problem.

[Symmetry]

I wish we can actually have a Republican candidate for President who believes in evolution and human effect on global weather.

I would rather have a candidate that believes that human beings are human beings from the moment of conception than one who believes in evolution.

Because there is nothing in policy that can be influenced by not believing in evolution

Education? Policies regarding science and research?

I'd rather have a candidate who listens to expertise, rather than one who only has one Book in their library.

[muy_thaiguy]

That is the one critter in the world I have a REAL problem with....all those years in hawaii with tons of them....*shudder*....in St Thomas, they call em Mahogany Birds and like them....WTF, over? I have keeelled many many of those disgusting vermin. Thank the gods we dunna have em in oregon....

There are no cockroaches in Oregon - I want to move to Oregon - but they all have bumper stickers which say - "Oregon - it's a nice place to visit - but we don't want you to live here".

Funny enough, the same rings true for Wyoming. No roaches, nice place to visit, but we have a bit more luck with the "we don't want you to live here" part.

Every major city has cockroaches.

You do realize that the largest "city" in Wyoming is only about 60,000, right?

[hotfire]

I wish we can actually have a Republican candidate for President who believes in evolution and human effect on global weather.

I would rather have a candidate that believes that human beings are human beings from the moment of conception than one who believes in evolution.

Because there is nothing in policy that can be influenced by not believing in evolution.

IN fact I would rather have a candidate not believe in revolution than a candidate not believe in supply and demand. The former doesn't whack you in the backside when you attempt to ignore it. The later does all the time. Isn't that right, Mr. I want to have everyone with a college degree candidate?

As for the later, no one ever asks that question in the real world. They claim to ask the question in the real world, but the question is asked is CO2 emissions from the developed nations (outside of China) on global weather and whether or not raising taxes and destroying the US power grid is going to significantly stop this problem.

Hmmmm.....believing solid scientific truths or not does have many policy implications...but you think evolution involves design so you don't REALLY know any scientific truths.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

It's easy to bash someone's brains in because cranial plates are pretty thin. Sutures are fairly elastic and actually help keep the skull intact, much like old skyscrapers are more prone to collapse in an earthquake because they're too rigid.

Oh please have mercy on me.

Bashing someones head in - A high magnitude impact force
Earthquakes - A series of accelerations

Not comparable in the slightest. Now if you want to write about the comparison between Kevlar and Skulls then please go ahead. The idea is to absorb high amounts of energy WITHOUT significant deformation (as that would be plastic deformation which is non-reversable).

[RiskTycoon]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ro6PNqkHEM

[Bernie Sanders]

I wish we can actually have a Republican candidate for President who believes in evolution and human effect on global weather.

I would rather have a candidate that believes that human beings are human beings from the moment of conception than one who believes in evolution.

Because there is nothing in policy that can be influenced by not believing in evolution.

IN fact I would rather have a candidate not believe in revolution than a candidate not believe in supply and demand. The former doesn't whack you in the backside when you attempt to ignore it. The later does all the time. Isn't that right, Mr. I want to have everyone with a college degree candidate?

As for the later, no one ever asks that question in the real world. They claim to ask the question in the real world, but the question is asked is CO2 emissions from the developed nations (outside of China) on global weather and whether or not raising taxes and destroying the US power grid is going to significantly stop this problem.

You want to give full rights to a freshly fertilized egg? Ok, let's give citizenship to any illegal immigrants who have fertilized eggs in their womb!

Now go tell that to Trump, Cruz and the rest of those right wing crazies.

[tzor]

Education? Policies regarding science and research?

Oh right ...
We are talking about the Federal Government right?
We are talking about the POTUS right?

I think we have a more constitutional problem here when you are worried that the Executive of the Federal Government can control in fine detail the spending power of Congress ... for an item not within its enumerated powers simply because he doesn't believe in evolution.

I will repeat my point. I'd rather have the president believe in the constitution than in evolution. Heck he might as well believe that the moon actually came from Jupiter for all I care. Now if everyone in the House of Representatives had this view, I would start to worry.

[tzor]

You want to give full rights to a freshly fertilized egg? Ok, let's give citizenship to any illegal immigrants who have fertilized eggs in their womb!

To be honest, I'm not sure what that actually means.

Now some rights, even though inalienable, aren't always an option, especially to a freshly fertilized egg. Free speech, religion, and bearing arms being just three of them.

More importantly, I'm hanging on a petard of my own making and I'm willing to admit it. I used the word "conception" not "fertilization." It's a classic mistake on my part, but a significant one. Webster makes this clear ... (as mud but I digress) ... "the process of becoming pregnant involving fertilization or implantation or both." In other words, conception = fertilization and implantation. So it's not a "freshly fertilized egg" since it takes a while to continue down the Fallopian tube to the uterus and then to be implanted therein.

And would I give it to the fetuses of illegal immigrants? Yes. Absolutely. No killing embryos because they are not citizens. But that doesn't mean they have a right to be in the country, if the mother doesn't have a right. I mean it might be possible to give a visa to the embryo and not the mother, but that's really Bizarro world and no sane person would do that.

Oh and no waterboarding embryos either (oh wait, they don't breathe through their lungs so that's moot).

[mrswdk]

In proper countries, like Europe and China, the government will pay for your abortions. In weird theocracies, such as the US and Saudi Arabia, they will ban you from having an abortion. I guess no personal freedom is the price you pay for having a religious government.

[KoolBak]

Oh goodie! Politix AND abortion! Let's do guns next!

Yo Muy....Had a hell of a time in Jackson way back when....barely made it out....lol. Buddy has a cabin on 100 acres inside yellowstone borders that was homesteaded and grandfathered...awesome spot.

[muy_thaiguy]

Oh goodie! Politix AND abortion! Let's do guns next!

Yo Muy....Had a hell of a time in Jackson way back when....barely made it out....lol. Buddy has a cabin on 100 acres inside yellowstone borders that was homesteaded and grandfathered...awesome spot.

Jackson is kind of an enigma in Wyoming. It's like someone picked up a town from California and plopped it in Northern Wyoming.

[Bernie Sanders]

Tzor wants old white men to control a women's reproduction system.

[tzor]

Tzor wants old white men to control a women's reproduction system.

Says an ... old white man.

I can just seeing someone making a same argument about Lincoln, wanting old white men to control a person's right to "property."

In case you haven't gotten the memo, there are a number of black women in the pro=life movement, and white women as well. I'm sure I could find green women as well if I looked hard enough. "Old White Men" legalized abortion in the first place.