The TRUTH About Trump, and it's funny

[GoranZ]

betiko take your pills

[mrswdk]

I mean come on dude, you're a European. The reason Europe is currently experiencing a refugee crisis is because Obama (along with France and a couple others) rushed into Syria to provoke a civil war. And you're cheer leading him as a success because of the Iran deal?

yeah. The civil war there is because of France, USA, UK and my grandma.
Nothing was going on with Bashar before the whole shit went berserk, and there wasn't a refugee crisis 2-3 years ago. Go suck goran's testicles you chinese yes man.

Within the first year of the conflict starting the US was giving aid to the Syrian opposition worth about $1 billion per year. If the US had not gone charging in to prop up the rebels, Assad would probably have crushed them years ago.

And you are correct, there wasn't a refugee crisis 2-3 years ago. It is well-documented that the refugee crisis started in 2015.

lol. Are you like saying that Bashar's opposition was daesh?

lolwut. No?

A whole part of the civilians were getting butchered by Bashar, then daesh... why do you think they've been fleeing the country in such horrible conditions?

I imagine they've been fleeing the country because of the ongoing civil war. Next question.

Bashar's exercize of power against his dicidents was absolutely shocking. The international comunity couldn't just watch and cross their arms.

Oh, but they could have. Or they could have tried resolving the violence via diplomatic means. Instead a small group of countries decided to incite a full-blown civil war to try and topple the ruling government, and are now reaping the consequences of their actions.

So to summarize: thanks to American-led intervention in Syria, Europe is now experiencing an enormous refugee crisis.

[mrswdk]

So to get back to the original point:

Yes, Obama has been stoking tensions with Russia
Yes, Obama has been supporting conflict in the Middle East
Yes, Obama has been working to suppress China's rise
Yes, Obama has expanded the American military's program of extraterritorial assassinations conducted using drones
No, Obama is no different to any of the others

This is why I couldn't care less whether Clinton or Trump wins the presidency. If Clinton wins, we can expect all of the above to continue. If Trump wins, probably something similar. Big deal.

you are seriously delusional. I mean it's cute to see younglings such as yourself taking interest in geopolitics, and liking to think outside the box with that exchange program in china you did.
But stop mixing everything. You seriously hear a crackhead like trump and think.... yeah, probably can't do worse than Obama! Do you really think Obama did a worse job than w bush? better said... do you really think that w bush did a job as good as Obama in terms of foreign politics?

It's a credit to Obama's propaganda machine that despite all he has done on the international stage (see the list above as a starting point), you have crawled right up inside his ass and made a nest.

Had Obama become president in 2000 and experienced an enormous terror attack on New York shortly after, what would he have done? Given he's been more than happy to greatly expand Bush's military drone campaign in Pakistan, apparently unfazed by the number of innocent civilians being killed by US drone strikes, has been eager to rush into a civil war in Syria that isn't even anything to do with him etc., it's not too difficult to imagine Obama responding to 9/11 by sending troops into Afghanistan.

I doubt Trump would be much different. Some of his rhetoric is more sensational but his attitude towards China, Russia and the Middle East appears to be almost identical to that of any other US politician.

Hell, Trump has repeatedly said Bush is a war criminal who should have been impeached for Iraq, that Iraq should never have happened etc. Those statements are all true and they are all further than Obama's ever gone.

[waauw]

Like that matters. What's the party going to do to stop him if he by far and away wins the nomination race (which is looking pretty likely)?

Every newspaper is already predicting that if Trump fails to consolidate the republican moderates he won't stand a chance against the full force of the democrats. The republican party, as it is now, is polarized into two camps: people who love trump and people who hate him.

[betiko]

what would have he done? probably not invade Irak pretexting weapons of mass destruction BS, which led to the inception of daesh.
And I have absolutely no problem with sending troops to Afghanistan after 9/11. That's what we French did... not in Irak that had nothing to do with the whole thing.

Trump said that he would "kill the family of those isis people" so he is in favour of war crimes. Not sure Obama would ever even think of such idiocy. I can't do much more for you as you prove on various subjects that you are a bit too /b/

[jgordon1111]

Like that matters. What's the party going to do to stop him if he by far and away wins the nomination race (which is looking pretty likely)?

Every newspaper is already predicting that if Trump fails to consolidate the republican moderates he won't stand a chance against the full force of the democrats. The republican party, as it is now, is polarized in two camps: people who love trump and people who hate him.

Looks like the establishment is willing to give billary the win, rather than let the people's will break up the current political machine

[mrswdk]

what would have he done? probably not invade Irak pretexting weapons of mass destruction BS, which led to the inception of daesh.
And I have absolutely no problem with sending troops to Afghanistan after 9/11. That's what we French did... not in Irak that had nothing to do with the whole thing.

Trump said that he would "kill the family of those isis people" so he is in favour of war crimes. Not sure Obama would ever even think of such idiocy. I can't do much more for you as you prove on various subjects that you are a bit too /b/

So basically, you support military interventions conducted in Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan etc., you just draw the line at Iraq. You condemn Trump espousing the idea of war crimes against the families of ISIS members, but you think that Obama's war crimes committed against Pakistani civilians are somehow different/not war crimes. You and Trump condemn Bush over Iraq, Obama (the one who has had the power to punish Bush) has shelved the issue. Struggling to align you with or distinguish you from either of them to be honest.

[mrswdk]

Like that matters. What's the party going to do to stop him if he by far and away wins the nomination race (which is looking pretty likely)?

Every newspaper is already predicting that if Trump fails to consolidate the republican moderates he won't stand a chance against the full force of the democrats. The republican party, as it is now, is polarized into two camps: people who love trump and people who hate him.

Am I missing something? It seems to me like the moderates either get behind Trump to take on the Democrats or deliberately sabotage the Republican campaign. Why would they do the latter?

[riskllama]

Drumpf. Sounds about right...

[waauw]

Like that matters. What's the party going to do to stop him if he by far and away wins the nomination race (which is looking pretty likely)?

Every newspaper is already predicting that if Trump fails to consolidate the republican moderates he won't stand a chance against the full force of the democrats. The republican party, as it is now, is polarized into two camps: people who love trump and people who hate him.

Am I missing something? It seems to me like the moderates either get behind Trump to take on the Democrats or deliberately sabotage the Republican campaign. Why would they do the latter?

The nature of moderates is that they have the propensity to switch sides. The more european term for the american 'moderate voters' is 'centrists'.

[Bernie Sanders]

I mean come on dude, you're a European. The reason Europe is currently experiencing a refugee crisis is because Obama (along with France and a couple others) rushed into Syria to provoke a civil war. And you're cheer leading him as a success because of the Iran deal?

STFU! You are an imbecile and a troll. Stick to the subject matter or use your free time to free your Chinese brothers and sisters from tyranny.

Notyou2 great post!

[mrswdk]

I mean come on dude, you're a European. The reason Europe is currently experiencing a refugee crisis is because Obama (along with France and a couple others) rushed into Syria to provoke a civil war. And you're cheer leading him as a success because of the Iran deal?

STFU! You are an imbecile and a troll. Stick to the subject matter or use your free time to free your Chinese brothers and sisters from tyranny.

Notyou2 great post!

lol. Have you given up now then?

[riskllama]

mrs is no imbecile, bernie.

[mrswdk]

mrs is no imbecile, bernie.

Shucks ^3^

[mrswdk]

According to the BBC, Trump isn't actually the most extreme runner for the Republican nomination this year:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35703300

[Phatscotty]

First time I ever saw Youtube.com feature the same video for 72 hours straight...

[IcePack]

Freaking hilarious

[notyou2]

According to the BBC, Trump isn't actually the most extreme runner for the Republican nomination this year:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35703300

Ted Cruz is the scary extremist. They are ALL BAD CHOICES. Hillary wins.

[GoranZ]

I mean come on dude, you're a European. The reason Europe is currently experiencing a refugee crisis is because Obama (along with France and a couple others) rushed into Syria to provoke a civil war. And you're cheer leading him as a success because of the Iran deal?

STFU! You are an imbecile and a troll. Stick to the subject matter or use your free time to free your Chinese brothers and sisters from tyranny.

Notyou2 great post!

lol. Have you given up now then?

Yes he is... everybody knows that he has no chance, he only needs to admit that he is a LOSER

As you said previously... there is no big difference for Russia or China regardless who will be elected as president.
This is How the 2016 US Presidential Candidates Feel About Russia

[mrswdk]

From a Russian perspective, Trump is actually probably the best bet.

[Symmetry]

From a Russian perspective, Trump is actually probably the best bet.

He's expressed his love of Putin a few times, if I remember correctly. Plus Putin would walk all over him in any kind of Realpolitik situation.

[waauw]

From a Russian perspective, Trump is actually probably the best bet.

He's expressed his love of Putin a few times, if I remember correctly. Plus Putin would walk all over him in any kind of Realpolitik situation.

You sure? One of the symptoms of narcissism is that they are willing to cause their own downfall as long as they don't lose to somebody else. Put that in a political context and you've got an ugly mix.

[Symmetry]

From a Russian perspective, Trump is actually probably the best bet.

He's expressed his love of Putin a few times, if I remember correctly. Plus Putin would walk all over him in any kind of Realpolitik situation.

You sure? One of the symptoms of narcissism is that they are willing to cause their own downfall as long as they don't lose to somebody else. Put that in a political context and you've got an ugly mix.

Sure of which? He's certainly backed Putin:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/20/donald-trump-defends-vladimir-putin-endorsement

In Realpolitik terms, Trump comes across as a short term thinker- a populist. Putin plays a longer game and has the advantage of being a politician a hell of a lot longer than Trump. The Donald plays to the media, Putin controls the media. The Donald hopes that business experience will translate into the political sphere, Putin has actual experience.

He's already in awe of Putin, and he's unlikely to match him in experience. For Putin, an opponent who is already offensive, even during his primaries, to the rest of the world is not gonna be much of a player on the world stage.

Trump is a novice.

[saxitoxin]

From a Russian perspective, Trump is actually probably the best bet.

He's expressed his love of Putin a few times, if I remember correctly. Plus Putin would walk all over him in any kind of Realpolitik situation.

You sure? One of the symptoms of narcissism is that they are willing to cause their own downfall as long as they don't lose to somebody else. Put that in a political context and you've got an ugly mix.

Sure of which? He's certainly backed Putin:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/20/donald-trump-defends-vladimir-putin-endorsement

In Realpolitik terms, Trump comes across as a short term thinker- a populist. Putin plays a longer game and has the advantage of being a politician a hell of a lot longer than Trump. The Donald plays to the media, Putin controls the media. The Donald hopes that business experience will translate into the political sphere, Putin has actual experience.

He's already in awe of Putin, and he's unlikely to match him in experience. For Putin, an opponent who is already offensive, even during his primaries, to the rest of the world is not gonna be much of a player on the world stage.

Trump is a novice.

Europe is not America's to do with as it likes.

Europe belongs to Russia.

I quote William Ewart Gladstone who said that Russia "is the historic guarantor of peace in Europe." Trump is the new Gladstone.

Or do you hate Gladstone?

[saxitoxin]