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On the brink of new World War

Postby GoranZ on Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:49 pm

Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has warned of the possibility of a permanent or "world war" if a resolution of the Syrian conflict is not found and U.S. and Arab ground forces get involved in the conflict.

Medvedev, in an interview in Munich with Germany's Handelsblatt newspaper on February 11, said Washington and Moscow must use their influence to pressure all sides in the conflict to agree to a cease-fire.

He said if Saudi forces joined a recently discussed U.S.-led ground operation into Syria it could turn "the war into a permanent one," citing Afghanistan and "many other countries" as examples.

Medvedev said the United States and Arab countries must think carefully before getting more deeply involved in Syria and that "all sides must be compelled to sit at the negotiating table instead of unleashing a new world war."

Medvedev Warns Of 'World War' If Syrian Peace Talks Fail, U.S., Arab Troops Enter

Russians are not kidding, they gonna use nukes if necessary and Riyadh will be the demo.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby waauw on Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:03 pm

More likely the arabs get involved and then Iran gets more involved and they raise tentions amongst themselves. The US would never risk a conflict with another superpower without the support of its allies and at the moment, due to the migration crisis, more europeans have become pro-Russian, or at least they've started to see Putin in a more positive light.

As for Russia, I highly doubt Putin is stupid enough to let things escalate to that. He just knows that in a game of bluff-poker he wins against Obama.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby mrswdk on Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:20 pm

waauw wrote:at the moment, due to the migration crisis, more europeans have become pro-Russian, or at least they've started to see Putin in a more positive light.


lolwut. What does the refugee crisis have to do with Putin?
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby waauw on Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:12 pm

mrswdk wrote:
waauw wrote:at the moment, due to the migration crisis, more europeans have become pro-Russian, or at least they've started to see Putin in a more positive light.


lolwut. What does the refugee crisis have to do with Putin?


In western europe more and more people are getting frustrated with the western approach to Syria, and seem to like Putin's harsh approach to the matter. This doesn't exactly equal pro-russian, but it does sympathize with the russian method.

In eastern europe more and more people are waking up from the fact that the EU isn't a dreamland as they thought it was when they joined, and in their anger/frustration have started to turn their heads back east to papa bear. Initially it looked like it was just Viktor Orban in Hungary, but nowadays it seems to be a starting trend. The migration crisis is one of the major contributing factors to all this.

So it's not that the refugee crisis really has a direct connection with Putin but the growing dissent is turning in his favour.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby Symmetry on Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:27 pm

I think Russian politics has been stuck on the idea of a new world war for a few decades now. Pissing off every country around you to garner cheap nationalism is a tactic that increasingly seems to backfire.

Putin has dug himself a position where he's tolerated as long as he can appear to be useful.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:49 am

GoranZ wrote:
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has warned of the possibility of a permanent or "world war" if a resolution of the Syrian conflict is not found and U.S. and Arab ground forces get involved in the conflict.

Medvedev, in an interview in Munich with Germany's Handelsblatt newspaper on February 11, said Washington and Moscow must use their influence to pressure all sides in the conflict to agree to a cease-fire.

He said if Saudi forces joined a recently discussed U.S.-led ground operation into Syria it could turn "the war into a permanent one," citing Afghanistan and "many other countries" as examples.

Medvedev said the United States and Arab countries must think carefully before getting more deeply involved in Syria and that "all sides must be compelled to sit at the negotiating table instead of unleashing a new world war."

Medvedev Warns Of 'World War' If Syrian Peace Talks Fail, U.S., Arab Troops Enter

Russians are not kidding, they gonna use nukes if necessary and Riyadh will be the demo.


Another silly post from GoranZ
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby GoranZ on Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:09 am

Symmetry wrote:I think Russian politics has been stuck on the idea of a new world war for a few decades now. Pissing off every country around you to garner cheap nationalism is a tactic that increasingly seems to backfire.

Putin has dug himself a position where he's tolerated as long as he can appear to be useful.

Not really, Russia has interests and intend to protect them. You want to play with them? Prepare for the consequences.

Russian Roulette: US Risks Turning New Cold War Into a Nuclear One

Bernie Sanders wrote:Another silly post from GoranZ

Have you even considered what will happen to Israel if US and Russia are preoccupied with each other?
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby UCAbears on Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:37 am

New World War will lead to New World Order. Wake up before its too late if its not already. It's all part of the agenda.

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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:46 am

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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:31 pm

GoranZ wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I think Russian politics has been stuck on the idea of a new world war for a few decades now. Pissing off every country around you to garner cheap nationalism is a tactic that increasingly seems to backfire.

Putin has dug himself a position where he's tolerated as long as he can appear to be useful.

Not really, Russia has interests and intend to protect them. You want to play with them? Prepare for the consequences.

Russian Roulette: US Risks Turning New Cold War Into a Nuclear One

Bernie Sanders wrote:Another silly post from GoranZ

Have you even considered what will happen to Israel if US and Russia are preoccupied with each other?



Have you even considered what will happen to Israel if US and Russia are preoccupied with each other?

Oh yes wise one, please shed some light on this issue.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby GoranZ on Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:15 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I think Russian politics has been stuck on the idea of a new world war for a few decades now. Pissing off every country around you to garner cheap nationalism is a tactic that increasingly seems to backfire.

Putin has dug himself a position where he's tolerated as long as he can appear to be useful.

Not really, Russia has interests and intend to protect them. You want to play with them? Prepare for the consequences.

Russian Roulette: US Risks Turning New Cold War Into a Nuclear One

Bernie Sanders wrote:Another silly post from GoranZ

Have you even considered what will happen to Israel if US and Russia are preoccupied with each other?



Have you even considered what will happen to Israel if US and Russia are preoccupied with each other?

Oh yes wise one, please shed some light on this issue.

Israel will lose its biggest(and probably only) supporter ;) No more excursions to Gaza, Lebanon, Golan etc...

Why does Saudi Foreign Minister thinks that Saudi Arabia is some kind of big player in world politics?
The interview is hilarious... They will fight Daesh but their goal will be to topple Assad :lol:


Will we see S-400 in combat action?
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:14 pm

GoranZ wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I think Russian politics has been stuck on the idea of a new world war for a few decades now. Pissing off every country around you to garner cheap nationalism is a tactic that increasingly seems to backfire.

Putin has dug himself a position where he's tolerated as long as he can appear to be useful.

Not really, Russia has interests and intend to protect them. You want to play with them? Prepare for the consequences.

Russian Roulette: US Risks Turning New Cold War Into a Nuclear One

Bernie Sanders wrote:Another silly post from GoranZ

Have you even considered what will happen to Israel if US and Russia are preoccupied with each other?



Have you even considered what will happen to Israel if US and Russia are preoccupied with each other?

Oh yes wise one, please shed some light on this issue.

Israel will lose its biggest(and probably only) supporter ;) No more excursions to Gaza, Lebanon, Golan etc...

Why does Saudi Foreign Minister thinks that Saudi Arabia is some kind of big player in world politics?
The interview is hilarious... They will fight Daesh but their goal will be to topple Assad :lol:


Will we see S-400 in combat action?


After ISIS is dead and buried, Assad is next.

Are you saying Russia is going to shoot down Saudi Arabia's planes....I seriously doubt that. Putin might be a closet homosexual, but he ain't stupid.

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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby GoranZ on Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:33 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I think Russian politics has been stuck on the idea of a new world war for a few decades now. Pissing off every country around you to garner cheap nationalism is a tactic that increasingly seems to backfire.

Putin has dug himself a position where he's tolerated as long as he can appear to be useful.

Not really, Russia has interests and intend to protect them. You want to play with them? Prepare for the consequences.

Russian Roulette: US Risks Turning New Cold War Into a Nuclear One

Bernie Sanders wrote:Another silly post from GoranZ

Have you even considered what will happen to Israel if US and Russia are preoccupied with each other?



Have you even considered what will happen to Israel if US and Russia are preoccupied with each other?

Oh yes wise one, please shed some light on this issue.

Israel will lose its biggest(and probably only) supporter ;) No more excursions to Gaza, Lebanon, Golan etc...

Why does Saudi Foreign Minister thinks that Saudi Arabia is some kind of big player in world politics?
The interview is hilarious... They will fight Daesh but their goal will be to topple Assad :lol:


Will we see S-400 in combat action?


After ISIS is dead and buried, Assad is next.

Nice joke :lol: People like you were saying the same for Castro, but he outlive them ALL :D

Bernie Sanders wrote:Are you saying Russia is going to shoot down Saudi Arabia's planes....I seriously doubt that.

Atm US would not dare directly confront with Russia for the same reasons Russia would not directly confront US, but Saudi Arabia is piece of cake, Russian can erase them from the face of the earth if they want :lol:

Bernie Sanders wrote:Putin might be a closet homosexual, but he ain't stupid.

If Putin f*ck you every day in political arena it doesn't mean he is homosexual :lol:
And I agree, he ain't stupid, but the same can not be said for you ;)

As Lavrov said earlier today... The situation in Syria can now evolve into one of three variants: negotiated compromise, Assad’s military victory, and a large war with the participation of all the outside actors.
Turks are preparing for the third option... US urges Turkey to stop shelling Kurdish and Syrian forces. But US and especially EU would not even consider such outcome.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby AndyDufresne on Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:21 pm

GoranZ wrote:Atm US would not dare directly confront with Russia for the same reasons Russia would not directly confront US, but Saudi Arabia is piece of cake, Russian can erase them from the face of the earth if they want :lol:


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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby GoranZ on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:52 pm

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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby Symmetry on Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:28 pm

GoranZ wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I think Russian politics has been stuck on the idea of a new world war for a few decades now. Pissing off every country around you to garner cheap nationalism is a tactic that increasingly seems to backfire.

Putin has dug himself a position where he's tolerated as long as he can appear to be useful.

Not really, Russia has interests and intend to protect them. You want to play with them? Prepare for the consequences.

Russian Roulette: US Risks Turning New Cold War Into a Nuclear One

Bernie Sanders wrote:Another silly post from GoranZ

Have you even considered what will happen to Israel if US and Russia are preoccupied with each other?


I'm guessing that it will be roughly what happened last time that the US and Russia were preoccupied with each other. Pretty much nothing.

What interests do you think Russia needs to protect? I notice you were got a tad desperate and couldn't name any.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby GoranZ on Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:59 pm

False alarm, it ain't gonna be new World War... Europeans decided that they wont sacrifice for Turkish support of ISIS

NATO Warns Turkey It Won’t Support Ankara in Conflict With Russia
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby Symmetry on Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:06 pm

GoranZ wrote:False alarm, it ain't gonna be new World War... Europeans decided that they wont sacrifice for Turkish support of ISIS

NATO Warns Turkey It Won’t Support Ankara in Conflict With Russia


Damn, if Sputnik news says so, it must be true.

As a heads up, confusing Europeans with NATO might make you look a bit silly.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby GoranZ on Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:15 pm

Symmetry wrote:
GoranZ wrote:False alarm, it ain't gonna be new World War... Europeans decided that they wont sacrifice for Turkish support of ISIS

NATO Warns Turkey It Won’t Support Ankara in Conflict With Russia


Damn, if Sputnik news says so, it must be true.

As a heads up, confusing Europeans with NATO might make you look a bit silly.

You think its not true? Go ahead, invade Syria, but take body bags with you, you gonna need them based on the effectiveness of UK weapons.

British Brimstone missiles in Syria are yet to kill any terrorists, MoD reveals
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby Symmetry on Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:22 pm

GoranZ wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
GoranZ wrote:False alarm, it ain't gonna be new World War... Europeans decided that they wont sacrifice for Turkish support of ISIS

NATO Warns Turkey It Won’t Support Ankara in Conflict With Russia


Damn, if Sputnik news says so, it must be true.

As a heads up, confusing Europeans with NATO might make you look a bit silly.

You think its not true? Go ahead, invade Syria, but take body bags with you, you gonna need them based on the effectiveness of UK weapons.

British Brimstone missiles in Syria are yet to kill any terrorists, MoD reveals


Damn, if Russia Today says so, it must be true.

I don't think I'll be invading Syria anytime soon, so your bellicose advice seems a tad redundant anyway.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby GoranZ on Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:37 pm

Symmetry wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
GoranZ wrote:False alarm, it ain't gonna be new World War... Europeans decided that they wont sacrifice for Turkish support of ISIS

NATO Warns Turkey It Won’t Support Ankara in Conflict With Russia


Damn, if Sputnik news says so, it must be true.

As a heads up, confusing Europeans with NATO might make you look a bit silly.

You think its not true? Go ahead, invade Syria, but take body bags with you, you gonna need them based on the effectiveness of UK weapons.

British Brimstone missiles in Syria are yet to kill any terrorists, MoD reveals


Damn, if Russia Today says so, it must be true.

I don't think I'll be invading Syria anytime soon, so your bellicose advice seems a tad redundant anyway.

As I thought so... Symmetry chicken out.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby Symmetry on Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:43 pm

Nah, I just know RT for what it is. Tightly controlled propaganda is still sometimes fun to watch.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:41 pm

I'm no friend of the Russians, but they're not entirely wrong. I think it's pretty scary how fast American propaganda changed gears. Six months ago all you'd see on the news is "We need to stop ISIS at all costs!" Now that the Russians are kicking the shit out of ISIS, the lead story on every newscast is "We have to get humanitarian aid to the suffering people of Aleppo before it's too late."

ISIS was a convenient bogeyman to scare people with, but a dead bogeyman isn't so scary. The war hawks need to keep ISIS alive to keep frightening people. That's not news, but what is news is the completely effortless way they've been able do a 180 without any meaningful outrage at home. The mainstream media gets more supine by the year. No way Edward R. Murrow would have let this pass, or even Walter Cronkite.

The American media may be privately owned, but they're no less tools of the state than the Russian media.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby warmonger1981 on Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:24 am

Walter Cronkite was a NWO supporter.
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Re: On the brink of new World War

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:11 am

Good.
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