[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

And why not Hotshot and Sausage?

Mafia would not have known the first two were third party. They just would have known they were voting someone other then mafia.

Your comparing a vote count on a lynched Vt with someone who has not been lynched.

If your putting this information up there as if it is meaningful then perhaps you think SOMTHING can be learned. Why are you asking us instead of stating your opinion.

In Harry Potter he looked at which groups never voted for each other. A much better analysis as matrix are less likely to vote each other. Deg is doing this to look town, in full knowledge that its not useful. I'm sure he is happy to be in a list with Mars and Rish...

Similarly, the idea that me forgetting things and contradicting myself is a scum tell? Ahem, when I am mafia I do not slip up ever, because I develop a plan at the start with a great deal of knowledge.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Matrix should be mafia.... ( I have no idea either why I did that either )

[degaston]

And why not Hotshot and Sausage?

Mafia would not have known the first two were third party. They just would have known they were voting someone other then mafia.

Your comparing a vote count on a lynched Vt with someone who has not been lynched.

If your putting this information up there as if it is meaningful then perhaps you think SOMTHING can be learned. Why are you asking us instead of stating your opinion.

I'm doing this from my phone, so it's difficult enough just doing falko. No one else seems to be doing much anyway. I thought I'd let people figure out for themselves which group they found more trustworthy. Since I think it should be a choice between wing and me today, any analysis I put forth is obviously going to be self-serving. But since you ask, I find it interesting that Aladdin had no problem hammering falko based on nothing, but with wing he is suddenly very cautious.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I find it interesting that Aladdin had no problem hammering falko based on nothing, but with wing he is suddenly very cautious.

Really? You suggested a few days ago that it was scummy of me to tell Falko to vote PTLowe over Storr. Regardless, are you really suggesting that voting for a claimed cop is nothing? Or did you just forget?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Question for anyone - Is there a quick way to bring up all posts by a particular player? I have found the search function unhelpful with this.

(Mostly aimed at Storr and Mets tbh)

[degaston]

I find it interesting that Aladdin had no problem hammering falko based on nothing, but with wing he is suddenly very cautious.

Really? You suggested a few days ago that it was scummy of me to tell Falko to vote PTLowe over Storr. Regardless, are you really suggesting that voting for a claimed cop is nothing? Or did you just forget?

No, I said it was scummy for you to tell falko to vote for pt over stor, and then when he does that, use it as an excuse to lynch him.

[degaston]

Question for anyone - Is there a quick way to bring up all posts by a particular player? I have found the search function unhelpful with this.

(Mostly aimed at Storr and Mets tbh)

Go to the search page.

Search for keywords: special
(To limit it to posts from this thread)

Author: StorrZerg
(Or whoever you are interested in)

Search in forums: Mafia Games

Search in subforums: No

Return first: All available
So that you see the entire post.

Click Search

[Iron Butterfly]

Question for anyone - Is there a quick way to bring up all posts by a particular player? I have found the search function unhelpful with this.

(Mostly aimed at Storr and Mets tbh)

I am not sure about "quick" but you can bring up a players posts in a specific forum and in the last number of posts up to 300.

[StorrZerg]

What i do, sort by aurthor. instead of post time. And just go to when the player starts and read from that. Isn't super quick, but its all their posts on the specific game and in order.

[AladdinSane]

But since you ask, I find it interesting that Aladdin had no problem hammering falko based on nothing, but with wing he is suddenly very cautious.

1. As has been pointed out MENY times, Falko voted a claimed cop. Dat's not "nuttink"'

2. With Falko, time was short, teh dedline was looming (orso pointed out MENY times);

3. I had misgivings but Falko was obviusly teh only wun who was going to be linched D3;

By my count (witch cood be wrong, I'm seveerly uncaffinated), Falko is at 10 votes (L-1). Teh dedline is close, we need to linch. Wile voting fer claimed cop looks suspishus, its such an obviusly suspishus move dat I tink maybe it wasent really scummy. Still, I tink Falko's bandwagon is teh only wun dat's going to get over teh line today, so Ima hamer I gess.

4. Teh Falko episode itself made me moor corshus.


Both Wing and Deg seem to be flailing about and pointing fingers evrywear in desperashun. Orthough Deg is doing nuttink to make himself look less scummy wit his spurius and curiusly unhelpful vote analisys (makes moor sense to do it after teh vote), I tink wot is making me still leen tord Wing is dat he apeers to have a NK ability and, since he does look scummy and has claimed CPR Doc, dis prob meens SK. If he terns out not to have NK and gets linched, den he will have been hoisted on his own petard, so to speek. So, moor potenshal fer danger to Town helps make him teh wun to linch, I tink. It's potenshally useful to Town, but orso potenshally danjerus to Town, and teh way tings are looking, teh latter looks moor likely.

I now intend to vote Wing att 11.00 Monday mourning CCT, unless sumtink hapens to change my mind, so enywun who is not shore, unvote before den. Fare worning. I make it L - 3 curently, sinse Cm and Mitch have witdrawn there votes.

[dakky21]

Congratulations for reaching 100 pages!

VC tomorrow.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

What i do, sort by aurthor. instead of post time. And just go to when the player starts and read from that. Isn't super quick, but its all their posts on the specific game and in order.

Found it. Thx all.

I was preparing a lovely piece on the sheer amount of fishing from IB last night, its outright ridiculous. Unfortunately my laptop has died, so I am only have my tablet for this and its just not that easy.

@Aladdin, i am not sk, but I am also not sure why lynching an sk would be good at this point. 3rd party lynches is what has made mafia strong. I have to target mafia for kills whatever my alignment....

[rizky_biznezz]

Isnt it possible that If wing is town and threatening to shoot there is a chance mafia will target him anyway... If he survives the night and has killed an innocent well we lynch him next.. Just a thought.. But then we are back to the start on today's lynch and possibly lose 2 townies without finding scum..

Still thinking it over will have to place a vote soon

[AladdinSane]

Unfortunately my laptop has died, so I am only have my tablet for this and its just not that easy.

Wow. First Rish's mashine and now yores. Dis game is reely hard on teh hardwear. I'm waiting fer sumwun to say dey cunt do a substanshal post becorse teh dog ate there phone.*

@Aladdin, i am not sk, but I am also not sure why lynching an sk would be good at this point. 3rd party lynches is what has made mafia strong.

1. Teh ting is, at dis point it makes sense fer Town to make a provizunal asumpshun dat teh alinement indikator werks, and to linch off teh list of tree. You look moor scummy than the others, so dozent make sense rite now linch wun of dem, sinse aparently only wun on teh list is scum.

2. Wot makes you say Mafia is strong? Dat looks suspishus to me. Mafia coodent even do a NK last nite. Dey dont look too strong on teh basis of teh info availabul to Town, suggesting you are not Town.

I have to target mafia for kills whatever my alignment....

I tink dat is slitely inacurate - you cood get away with hitting non-Mafia scum. I wood have been hapy if you had taken out Mitch last nite, fer eggsampul. But yeah, I get teh point dat, wotever yer alinement, yer motivated to kill scum on pain of linching if you get it rong. Teh pomplem wit dat is, I'm not at orl confident you can hit scum even if you want to. Let's look at yer past thorts:

Storr- Happy too now I am not providing a safeclaim for a fake vig. White Rose N1 and DJ N2. I didnt want to shoot Aladdin N2 if there was a vig around shooting the obvious target too.

Aladdin, white rose, deg, benga, rish, falko are all anti town.

Scum Rollcall, thoughts please (from all)

Aladdin
DJPatrick
Player
CatchersMitt
Falko
/ slash
Deg
White Rose

(in rough order)

If Rish hadent jailed you, TWR and DJP wood likely be ded. I'm not super-convised dat either is scum. I've noted before dat both players looked scummy in teh Beginners game, and both were Town. Dat's teh problem wit yer method of looking at posts fer "tells" erly in teh game - it just isent reliabul. Look at Falko in dis game too. AND you corled me teh "obvius target". Shooting on flimsy evidense displays pore judgement, imo. It's bad enuff dat Town has to take a moor-or-less random potshot on linching D1 witout amplifying teh efect by shooting moor-or-less randomly too.

Den their is yore firt list, and yore "scum roll corl". I'm not seeing eny of dose on either list as particuly scummy. Falko has flipped Town awreddy, and I'm pritty sertan of me lol. Benga looks Town to me. Of teh others, Deg and Rish are on my list, but reely only becorse of teh alinement indikator, and if yer scum then they are both Town, ackordingk to teh alinement indikator. So, yeh, yer not reely inspiring confidense at teh moment. I tink you are moor likely to hit Town than scum, tbh, wotever yer alinement.

Finorly, their is yer desishun to make teh "selfish" move of not shooting Mitch in eggschange fer his vote. You've played enuff to know dat Town shood not play "selfishly" but orways fer teh good of Town. Not only did you fail to establish wit eny degree of sertainty dat you are not SK, sinse yer shot cood have been blokked, but you displayed pore judgement in just acksepting Mitch's werd at face value wen he has been lying his ass orf orl game.

I've been presing Storr to tell us why he has veered frum wanting to linch you D3/N3 to voting Deg today, and if he presented good reesons it mite save you, but he is refusing to do it, so...make peece wit yer maker, I gess.

* If yer laptop reely did die, comiserashuns.

[DJPatrick]

The Dog ate my iphone!!!

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

On the subject of the magic 8ball.

I have asked Streaker for a list of all possible results I could have received. I assumed it would be Town or Mafia. My fist thought was that the magic 8 ball acted as in real life in that no matter the question the results are.I was assured the results are not random.

1) The 8 Ball said Town because as a survivor he could have won as Town,Mafia or whatever party is left standing. One could make the argument that both Benga and I were not wrong. Something I had already theorized

.

The sweater also did not lie, unless you believe LSU isnt an inventor.

So blood on your hands IB?

Hoisted on your own petard.

(My wireless adapter is bust, will try a usb adapter i own tonight)

[StorrZerg]

didn't lie, but didn't work as intended... was suppose to show my role. It didn't.

8 ball obviously fucked up.... no way it should have shown different than a regular cop check.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

didn't lie,

Exactly. Now the item says "IB has blood on his hands". Logically its not lying and its difficult to see a misinterpretation.

Its nice to see that IB changed his tune when it suited him, not before.

[AladdinSane]

The sweater also did not lie, unless you believe LSU isnt an inventor.

Dat's not quiet true. We've been assuming dat teh swetter efect rebounded on LSU TJ. But it is conceevabul dat it ackshually did reed Storr's alinement, but gave a false resolt. Dat wood still be consistent wit LSU TJ been an inventer. Both teh 8-borl and teh swetter cood, in fact, give random resolts. We only have IB's werd dat teh mods told him teh 8-borl dident give random resolts.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Once the initial shock of Mars' revival passed, all attention turned to Storrzerg, and his fabulous sweater. Upon seeing the sweater, everyone simply knew. LSU Tiger Josh is an inventor.

Alignment not mentioned. Sweater targeted LSU, whether by design or otherwise.

[AladdinSane]

Once the initial shock of Mars' revival passed, all attention turned to Storrzerg, and his fabulous sweater. Upon seeing the sweater, everyone simply knew. LSU Tiger Josh is an inventor.

Alignment not mentioned. Sweater targeted LSU, whether by design or otherwise.

Yeah, yore' rite of corse. Atempting too mutch multitasking atm.

[AladdinSane]

On the subject of the magic 8ball.

I have asked Streaker for a list of all possible results I could have received. I assumed it would be Town or Mafia. My fist thought was that the magic 8 ball acted as in real life in that no matter the question the results are.I was assured the results are not random.

1) The 8 Ball said Town because as a survivor he could have won as Town,Mafia or whatever party is left standing. One could make the argument that both Benga and I were not wrong. Something I had already theorized

.

Dis quote has been bothering me too. IB says teh 8-borl red Sausage as Town becorse he cood have wun as Town, but in teh same sentense admits Sausage cood have wun as Mafia or another party. So why teh "Town" resolt and not another resolt? Teh moltipul possibul resolts implies teh mods cood have sent back another resolt. Yet IB says teh resolt isent random.

[StorrZerg]

didn't lie,

Exactly. Now the item says "IB has blood on his hands". Logically its not lying and its difficult to see a misinterpretation.

Its nice to see that IB changed his tune when it suited him, not before.

what its super easy to see it represented wrong. The fact that 2 inventions have not worked as intended, and you expect this one to be working as intended lol?

[StorrZerg]

problem with a lot of the shit thats going on, can't tell how much of it is mod mistakes or players lying.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

problem with a lot of the shit thats going on, can't tell how much of it is mod mistakes or players lying.

Yup. My necks on the line because the mods chose it. No other reason apparently. It sucks. I dont even get why mods are targetting items and not the players. Scummiest town up against towniest scum. What chance do I have with proving my innocence with those choices?