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You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopaths

Postby waauw on Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:23 pm

Internet Trolls Really Are Horrible People
Narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic, and sadistic.

In the past few years, the science of Internet trollology has made some strides. Last year, for instance, we learned that by hurling insults and inciting discord in online comment sections, so-called Internet trolls (who are frequently anonymous) have a polarizing effect on audiences, leading to politicization, rather than deeper understanding of scientific topics.

That’s bad, but it’s nothing compared with what a new psychology paper has to say about the personalities of trolls themselves. The research, conducted by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba and two colleagues, sought to directly investigate whether people who engage in trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in the so-called Dark Tetrad: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in the suffering of others).

It is hard to overplay the results: The study found correlations, sometimes quite significant, between these traits and trolling behavior. What’s more, it also found a relationship between all Dark Tetrad traits (except for narcissism) and the overall time that an individual spent, per day, commenting on the Internet.

In the study, trolls were identified in a variety of ways. One was by simply asking survey participants what they “enjoyed doing most” when on online comment sites, offering five options: “debating issues that are important to you,” “chatting with others,” “making new friends,” “trolling others,” and “other.” Here’s how different responses about these Internet commenting preferences matched up with responses to questions designed to identify Dark Tetrad traits:

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To be sure, only 5.6 percent of survey respondents actually specified that they enjoyed “trolling.” By contrast, 41.3 percent of Internet users were “non-commenters,” meaning they didn’t like engaging online at all. So trolls are, as has often been suspected, a minority of online commenters, and an even smaller minority of overall Internet users.

The researchers conducted multiple studies, using samples from Amazon’s Mechanical Turk but also of college students, to try to understand why the act of trolling seems to attract this type of personality. They even constructed their own survey instrument, which they dubbed the Global Assessment of Internet Trolling, or GAIT, containing the following items:

I have sent people to shock websites for the lulz.

I like to troll people in forums or the comments section of websites.

I enjoy griefing other players in multiplayer games.

The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt.

Yes, some people actually say they agree with such statements. And again, doing so was correlated with sadism in its various forms, with psychopathy, and with Machiavellianism. Overall, the authors found that the relationship between sadism and trolling was the strongest, and that indeed, sadists appear to troll because they find it pleasurable. “Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others,” they wrote. “Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!”

The study comes as websites, particularly at major media outlets, are increasingly weighing steps to rein in trollish behavior. Last year Popular Science did away with its comments sections completely, citing research on the deleterious effects of trolling, and YouTube also took measures to rein in trolling.

But study author Buckels actually isn’t sure that fix is a realistic one. “Because the behaviors are intrinsically motivating for sadists, comment moderators will likely have a difficult time curbing trolling with punishments (e.g., banning users),” she said by email. “Ultimately, the allure of trolling may be too strong for sadists, who presumably have limited opportunities to express their sadistic interests in a socially-desirable manner.”

source: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby Bernie Sanders on Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:26 pm

It's amazing, this forum has no trolls. BUT, I have suspicions that the trolls will drown out this informational thread.
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Postby Army of GOD on Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:03 am

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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby rishaed on Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:20 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:I am a Troll.

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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby rishaed on Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:20 pm

Also what is Machiavellianism?
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby rishaed on Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:22 pm

rishaed wrote:Also what is Machiavellianism?

NVM. Missed it the first time. Essentially its the Game of Thrones. :?
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:11 pm

I guess I'm the odd-man out. I'm narcissistic, but none of the other things.
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby Symmetry on Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:24 pm

rishaed wrote:
rishaed wrote:Also what is Machiavellianism?

NVM. Missed it the first time. Essentially its the Game of Thrones. :?


I think it should be "I am..." followed by "a narcissist", etc, apart from "Machiavellian".

Machiavellian is an adjective. The others are nouns.

You could adjust to "narcissistic", "sadistic", and "psychopathic", so the indefinite article wouldn't be necessary.

Machiavelli gets a bad rap though. He's worth a read should you ever consider ruling a renaissance city-state.
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby waauw on Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:31 pm

Symmetry wrote:Machiavelli gets a bad rap though. He's worth a read should you ever consider ruling a renaissance city-state.


Or the US military.
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby Symmetry on Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:48 pm

waauw wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Machiavelli gets a bad rap though. He's worth a read should you ever consider ruling a renaissance city-state.


Or the US military.


If you mean the commander-in-chief, possibly, but more the political side of the role. Have you read The Prince? I can post a link if you're interested. He's nowhere near as nasty as his reputation.
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby warmonger1981 on Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:48 pm

I own his book if you can believe that.
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby Symmetry on Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:50 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
rishaed wrote:
rishaed wrote:Also what is Machiavellianism?

NVM. Missed it the first time. Essentially its the Game of Thrones. :?


I think it should be "I am..." followed by "a narcissist", etc, apart from "Machiavellian".

Machiavellian is an adjective. The others are nouns.

You could adjust to "narcissistic", "sadistic", and "psychopathic", so the indefinite article wouldn't be necessary.

Machiavelli gets a bad rap though. He's worth a read should you ever consider ruling a renaissance city-state.


It's an abbreviated noun. Similar to how we talk about the antediluvian (period), I am a Machiavellian (person) or a Russian (person).

Symmetry is a sadist, since he refuses to give money to the poor (people).


I suppose it could be used in that way, though I've never encountered it in any kind of common use. I'd put that usage down as one to avoid as prone to accusations of illiteracy.

I also feel that there's a subtle difference between using using "Machiavellian" as a noun and as an adjective. As a noun, it implies an adherent to Machiavelli's ideas (or principles, if you like). As an adjective, it implies similarity.

Just my take.
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby Symmetry on Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:53 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:I own his book if you can believe that.


Good for you dude, but you'd only surprise us if you were claiming to have read it.
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby warmonger1981 on Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:56 pm

DICK IN YOUR MOUTH!!!
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby Symmetry on Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:12 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:poor is an adjective. Have you never heard the phrase: the "poor"? how about the "brokenhearted"?


I read your post dude, I even replied to it.

Should I take this as an acceptance of my reply, and a request to talk about other words?
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby KoolBak on Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:50 am

Better than being a Narcoleptic Narcissistic Necropheliac (you figure it out). Or a Dyslexic Agnostic Insomniac (lays awake at night wondering if there really IS a Dog).
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby waauw on Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:34 am

KoolBak wrote:Better than being a Narcoleptic Narcissistic Necropheliac (you figure it out).

= Your average Call of Duty-player. (the narcoleptism maybe not so much)
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:07 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:poor is an adjective. Have you never heard the phrase: the "poor"? how about the "brokenhearted"?


I read your post dude, I even replied to it.

Should I take this as an acceptance of my reply, and a request to talk about other words?

I've never encountered it in any kind of common use


Obviously you don't understand how adjectives in English work. I'm calling you a liar because even Jesus said "Blessed are the meek" but meek is a fucking adjective.


What is this? A fucking English lesson?
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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:39 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:poor is an adjective. Have you never heard the phrase: the "poor"? how about the "brokenhearted"?


I read your post dude, I even replied to it.

Should I take this as an acceptance of my reply, and a request to talk about other words?

I've never encountered it in any kind of common use


Obviously you don't understand how adjectives in English work. I'm calling you a liar because even Jesus said "Blessed are the meek" but meek is a fucking adjective.


What is this? A fucking English lesson?

Better than an English fucking lesson.

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Re: You're all sadistic narcissistic machiavellian psychopat

Postby iAmCaffeine on Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:39 am

Also take into consideration that many who would consider themselves a troll, very rarely are.
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