Conquer Club

Cruz can't run for the Presidency

\\OFF-TOPIC// conversations about everything that has nothing to do with Conquer Club.

Moderator: Community Team

Forum rules
Please read the Community Guidelines before posting.

Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:51 pm

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/01/13/debate-over-cruzs-eligibility-to-be-president-ignites-again/21296563/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D1078019776_htmlws-sb-bb
Constitutional Scholar says Ted Cruz can't be President of USA, as he is not a natural born citizen.

Looks like Trump is saying the same thing.
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class Bernie Sanders
 
Posts: 5105
Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:30 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:09 pm

Wrong, a child of an American citizen, born outside the U.S has dual citizenship, and upon their majority,has the right to choose which country they wish to claim, it only breaks down to passport, you don't get both,that choice says it all, Canadian passport Canadian,U.S. passport...... This fact I know one of my sons was born in the same place McCain was and choose at 18
Last edited by jgordon1111 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
Private jgordon1111
 
Posts: 1711
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:11 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:This fact I know one of my sons was born in you


In this scenario, JGordon is a wasp and Bernie Sanders is a caterpillar.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=241668&start=200#p5349880
User avatar
Corporal saxitoxin
 
Posts: 13407
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:01 am

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:13 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:Wrong, a child of an American citizen, born outside the U.S has dual citizenship, and upon their majority,has the right to choose which country they wish to claim, it only breaks down to passport, you don't get both,that choice says it all, Canadian passport Canadian,U.S. passport...... This fact I know one of my sons was born in you the same place McCain was and choose at 18


Cruz was a Canadian citizen, until recently, decided to drop the Canadian citizenship. His Father was a Cuban citizen and later, after Ted was born became a US citizen.

Our Founding Fathers said "natural born", as being born in US territories, since our Founding Fathers were not born US citizens.

Image
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class Bernie Sanders
 
Posts: 5105
Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:30 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:15 pm

And by the by Trump already tried this both times oboma ran results oboma 8yrs, the definition of insanity is?
Image
User avatar
Private jgordon1111
 
Posts: 1711
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:19 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:Wrong, a child of an American citizen, born outside the U.S has dual citizenship, and upon their majority,has the right to choose which country they wish to claim, it only breaks down to passport, you don't get both,that choice says it all, Canadian passport Canadian,U.S. passport...... This fact I know one of my sons was born in you the same place McCain was and choose at 18


Cruz was a Canadian citizen, until recently, decided to drop the Canadian citizenship. His Father was a Cuban citizen and later, after Ted was born became a US citizen.

Our Founding Fathers said "natural born", as being born in US territories, since our Founding Fathers were not born US citizens.

Image


Bernie Bernie you don't listen do You, as long as he never held a Canadian passport, he gets to choose, just exactly as our founding father's chose.
Image
User avatar
Private jgordon1111
 
Posts: 1711
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:21 pm

Our Founding Fathers chose what?
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class Bernie Sanders
 
Posts: 5105
Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:30 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:27 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:Our Founding Fathers chose what?

Not to be British, french,spanish,Dutch, German, Irish etc.
Image
User avatar
Private jgordon1111
 
Posts: 1711
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:29 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:This fact I know one of my sons was born in you


In this scenario, JGordon is a wasp and Bernie Sanders is a caterpillar.


Damn predictive text, I didn't notice, Ty saxi
Image
User avatar
Private jgordon1111
 
Posts: 1711
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby riskllama on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:32 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:Our Founding Fathers chose what?

choosy founding fathers choose jif.
Image
User avatar
Lieutenant riskllama
 
Posts: 8976
Joined: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:50 pm
Location: deep inside Queen Charlotte.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:53 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:And by the by Trump already tried this both times oboma ran results oboma 8yrs, the definition of insanity is?

Supporting Trump?
instagram.com/garethjohnjoneswrites
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class jonesthecurl
 
Posts: 4614
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:42 am
Location: disused action figure warehouse

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:05 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:And by the by Trump already tried this both times oboma ran results oboma 8yrs, the definition of insanity is?

Supporting Trump?


Oddly enough just as a reoccurring theme its a damn good way to make sure Cruz is the next president,keep talking Don, You have already proven twice that when you speak people get elected.

Now that's funny I don't care who you are
Image
User avatar
Private jgordon1111
 
Posts: 1711
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby Symmetry on Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:30 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:And by the by Trump already tried this both times oboma ran results oboma 8yrs, the definition of insanity is?


Making the same spelling mistake twice and expecting different results?
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
User avatar
Sergeant Symmetry
 
Posts: 9255
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:49 am

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby tzor on Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:38 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:Cruz was a Canadian citizen, until recently, decided to drop the Canadian citizenship. His Father was a Cuban citizen and later, after Ted was born became a US citizen.

Our Founding Fathers said "natural born", as being born in US territories, since our Founding Fathers were not born US citizens.


First of all Bernie, there is NOTHING in the constitution about territories.
Second of all, only a few Founding Fathers (post revolution / pre constitution) were not natural citizens of the "State" which they resided.
Thirdly, the constitution is based on the French work of international law by Vattel (many of the Founding Fathers had the French original edition).

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


Lastly, Vattel's book is not absolute law. There are only two types of citizens, natural born and naturalized. The law defining this has been changed over time. You don't need to change the constitution to change the definition of natural born since the definition is not in the constitution. Obama doesn't qualify under Vatel either since the law was based on the parentage of the FATHER for natural citizenship. Was Cruz naturalized? If not he is either a natural born or he is an illegal immigrant.
Image
User avatar
Cadet tzor
 
Posts: 4076
Joined: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:43 pm
Location: Long Island, NY, USA

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby jgordon1111 on Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:46 am

Damn, Cruz messed up last night,for a constitutional lawyer he should have known better, he gave trump and everyone else a weapon to use against him at anytime.
Image
User avatar
Private jgordon1111
 
Posts: 1711
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:39 pm

Image
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=241668&start=200#p5349880
User avatar
Corporal saxitoxin
 
Posts: 13407
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:01 am

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby Bernie Sanders on Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:16 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Image



I saw the debate last night and knew that Cruz was going to eat those words about New York values. Ted Cruz is a hypocrite and a flip-flopper, along with that wimpy Rubio.

Good riddance Ted!

http://images.f169bbs.com/content/2016-01/new-york-to-ted-drop-dead-ted-31270.jpg
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class Bernie Sanders
 
Posts: 5105
Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:30 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby patches70 on Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:36 pm

This stuff about Cruz's citizenship is just stupid. What is really going to sink him is his campaign not disclosing that Cruz got a loan of $1 million from none other than our scumbag friends of Tranzies Goldman Sachs. Not only that but his wife works for Goldman Sachs.

For those who might not be aware, Goldman Sachs has a long history of maleficence and deceptive practices including but not limited to murdering their own muppets, bankrupting governments and market manipulations.

Cruz's connection to Goldman Sachs should be enough for any discerning voter to pass on casting a vote for this puppet.
Private patches70
 
Posts: 1664
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:44 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:52 pm

It's a sign that Trump is out of ideas. His birtherism and racism appeals to his base. It's a challenge to Cruz too though. "Confront me, and lose the people who agree with me" or "Agree with me, and lose the moderates"
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
User avatar
Sergeant Symmetry
 
Posts: 9255
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:49 am

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby Metsfanmax on Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:56 pm

Bernie, I don't think Cruz is depending on the New York vote this time around.
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class Metsfanmax
 
Posts: 6722
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:01 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby jgordon1111 on Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:05 pm

Hmm, the biggest blunder he made last night was he said trump couldn't run either on the basis trumps mother was born in Scotland, surprised that for a constitutional lawyer he would make that mistake, you can bet everyone smells blood now and will use it against him, calling his expertise into question on everything he says or does, and every argument he has had in front of any court.
Image
User avatar
Private jgordon1111
 
Posts: 1711
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby Bernie Sanders on Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:12 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:Hmm, the biggest blunder he made last night was he said trump couldn't run either on the basis trumps mother was born in Scotland, surprised that for a constitutional lawyer he would make that mistake, you can bet everyone smells blood now and will use it against him, calling his expertise into question on everything he says or does, and every argument he has had in front of any court.


Ted Cruz is done!

Who can stop Trump now? The RNC is already preparing for a contested election, as no one candidate will have enough delegates to get the Republican nomination. Trump is single-handedly destroying the GOP establishment, Tea Party and conservative movement in the Republican Party.
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class Bernie Sanders
 
Posts: 5105
Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:30 pm

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:16 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:Hmm, the biggest blunder he made last night was he said trump couldn't run either on the basis trumps mother was born in Scotland, surprised that for a constitutional lawyer he would make that mistake, you can bet everyone smells blood now and will use it against him, calling his expertise into question on everything he says or does, and every argument he has had in front of any court.


That Trump has been one of the biggest proponents of this kind of purity test, and that it has become a measure of the Republican Party is sad.
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
User avatar
Sergeant Symmetry
 
Posts: 9255
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:49 am

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

Postby notyou2 on Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:26 pm

I told you guys a long time ago Cruz can't be president.
Image
User avatar
Captain notyou2
 
Posts: 6447
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:09 am
Location: In the here and now

Next

Return to Acceptable Content

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users