[INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Archive please

[HotShot53]

If we as town don't agree on a non-confirmed scum then scum will win.

Tim, you look like you accept the fate but still vouching to kill LSU, while still not realizing the situation in which the town is. You are my vote, you're not that newb.

I may be wrong, so lets see what others have to say. (if Streaker, Hotshot, MTAM say something today...)

What exactly would killing tim accomplish? We can't lynch more than 1 scum per day... so even if he was scum, we wouldn't be in any better spot than lynching the known ones. And I really can't imagine him outing his partner, or lying when he'd know saying something false would get him lynched... so I trust him.

[dakky21]

If we as town don't agree on a non-confirmed scum then scum will win.

Tim, you look like you accept the fate but still vouching to kill LSU, while still not realizing the situation in which the town is. You are my vote, you're not that newb.

I may be wrong, so lets see what others have to say. (if Streaker, Hotshot, MTAM say something today...)

What exactly would killing tim accomplish? We can't lynch more than 1 scum per day... so even if he was scum, we wouldn't be in any better spot than lynching the known ones. And I really can't imagine him outing his partner, or lying when he'd know saying something false would get him lynched... so I trust him.

I don't like to quote myself but:

Combination of these two makes mtam & belly confirmed town,
Said I'm town and said LSU & EPI are mafia
it leaves ragian, hotshot, streaker, mitch & tim ...... 2 of them are scum...

It looks like you didn't read the thread and what I wrote...
We can't lynch more than 1 scum per day BUT... if they agree on killing 2 town tonight and 2 town N3, they win, at least one scum faction... so only way for town to win is to lynch today a non-confirmed scum...

What we gain from it - tomorrow we can kill a whole faction since we know Epi & LSU are mafia from two different factions... so N3 only one night kill instead of two.

If we persuade EPI/LSU lynch today, we're toast.

[Ragian]

I don't understand what you're trying to do here. Are you saying that we shouldn't lynch confirmed scum/werewolf? How will that help. Everybody calm down. No way we're lynching Tim today. Sheesh, dakky. You really scum it up here.

And yes, given the names the confirmed anti-town put forward, we would have to investigate the others (if possible) or lynch the others. Problem is, though, that you're taking information from confirmed anti-town. I know epi well enough to be sure that he's either giving up his own partner in order to secure said partner's townie status for his LYLO game (or whatever one is to call it) or that he is not giving up his partner, but will go back on his promise to the other faction. Anti-town want the other faction dead. I don't know if LSU is playing the same game (I don't know him well enough), but I still urge people not take confirmed anti-town's thoughts and comments too seriously.

C'mon, mtam and streaker! You promised us stuff today. Let's hear it.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Mars note. I have been reading and find this whole thing hilarious if you want me to sub in. Though I think both Mtam and Streaker should reappear soon.

[Marashu]

Mars note. I have been reading and find this whole thing hilarious if you want me to sub in. Though I think both Mtam and Streaker should reappear soon.

I was going to be giving them both until tomorrow morning before prodding. If one of them does not post by the 24th, I may ask you to sub in.

DAILY VOTE COUNT:
LSU: TimWoodbury, Streaker, madmitch, MrBelly (L-2)
Epitaph1: LSU, dakky (L-4)
Not Voting: Epitaph1, Ragian, HotShot, mtam

Deadline is Tuesday, December 29, 1600CCT. With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

[MrBellyBangBang]

If we as town don't agree on a non-confirmed scum then scum will win.

Tim, you look like you accept the fate but still vouching to kill LSU, while still not realizing the situation in which the town is. You are my vote, you're not that newb.

I may be wrong, so lets see what others have to say. (if Streaker, Hotshot, MTAM say something today...)

What exactly would killing tim accomplish? We can't lynch more than 1 scum per day... so even if he was scum, we wouldn't be in any better spot than lynching the known ones. And I really can't imagine him outing his partner, or lying when he'd know saying something false would get him lynched... so I trust him.

I don't like to quote myself but:

Combination of these two makes mtam & belly confirmed town,
Said I'm town and said LSU & EPI are mafia
it leaves ragian, hotshot, streaker, mitch & tim ...... 2 of them are scum...

It looks like you didn't read the thread and what I wrote...
We can't lynch more than 1 scum per day BUT... if they agree on killing 2 town tonight and 2 town N3, they win, at least one scum faction... so only way for town to win is to lynch today a non-confirmed scum...

What we gain from it - tomorrow we can kill a whole faction since we know Epi & LSU are mafia from two different factions... so N3 only one night kill instead of two.

If we persuade EPI/LSU lynch today, we're toast.

Yes, I see what you're saying now, we still have a chance if we can stop the two kill a night that is currently going on. Since we don't know two members of one faction we have to guess and guess right, if we guess right we will find out what faction the person we killed were and kill the other confirmed scum of the same faction the next day. This is very valuable information dakky, I doubt scum would be telling us this, in my eyes you are now extremely unlikely to be scum. Unvote LSU

[dakky21]

I don't understand what you're trying to do here. Are you saying that we shouldn't lynch confirmed scum/werewolf? How will that help. Everybody calm down. No way we're lynching Tim today. Sheesh, dakky. You really scum it up here.

As Belly said... and as I said... if two anti town factions communicate and kill town both nights, town is dead, and you came to the same conclusion yesterday.
So, the only way of town winning is today lynching not-confirmed scum and tomorrow confirmed scum so we eliminate one whole faction. That way anti-town will have only 1 kill N3. That would leave us with 3v2 D4 with both scum from same faction with one confirmed scum. Lynch confirmed anti-town, N4 it gets to 2v1 and D5 we can lynch the correct anti-town and town will win.

I didn't said vote tim, but we should vote someone from that selection, tim was just an example.

[Epitaph1]

Mars note. I have been reading and find this whole thing hilarious if you want me to sub in. Though I think both Mtam and Streaker should reappear soon.

If I learned anything from Political Mafia 1, it's that when life hands you lemons, you just have to make lemonade.

LSU, are you going to kill dakky on N3? We'll kill Tim.

[MrBellyBangBang]

Right now I like a vote on Ragian, he's irrrational in his opposition of voting anyone other than confirmed scum, despite it being towns only way of winning now that the two factions have teamed up, I'm also considering voting mtam and streaker because they're essentially not even playing anymore. If they are scum they are bad scum, if they're town they're really fucking bad town.

[TimWoodbury]

honestly ive not a clue what to think i see dakkys case so im willing to lynch whoever yall think is gonna be the best chance to get 1 team dead however i know lynching me will secure a anti town win and town loss. not quite sure why dakky keeps throwing my name out there even though its "just an example" hes done it multiple times now

[dakky21]

honestly ive not a clue what to think i see dakkys case so im willing to lynch whoever yall think is gonna be the best chance to get 1 team dead however i know lynching me will secure a anti town win and town loss. not quite sure why dakky keeps throwing my name out there even though its "just an example" hes done it multiple times now

Sorry for keeping you "as an example". I've been thinking a bit about this, and yeah, you're right. I guess they picked you to give you results because that had best chance not to reveal them or miss them completely.

So, I like the Ragian "example" which Belly said. Also agree Streaker could be... but they said they would NK mtam so that makes him kinda town...

My reads are as follow:
dakky, belly, Tim, (mtam?) - town
ragian, streaker, hotshot, mitch - 2 of them scum
LSU, EPI - scum

hotshot leaning town, though he doesn't get what would it mean for town if we hit scum else than EPI and LSU today
mitch silent last 24h and pushing a LSU lynch, could be Epi's partner
ragian leaning mafia with totally not understanding what I'm trying to accomplish (almost same as hotshot)
Streaker - too silent to judge, breaking the game, there is practically nothing to read on him, he made 13 posts in 13 pages. Actually, there is a way to view all his posts in this thread (click here) ... so maybe someone can get a read out of his posts...

[TimWoodbury]

after reading through he said he had a "strong read" on epis partner yet he never explained more like he said he would, not only that but he legit has not said anything worth while at all compared to normal so something is off there.

im thinking that steaker is one of the 2 anti towns left un-found.

[MrBellyBangBang]

honestly ive not a clue what to think i see dakkys case so im willing to lynch whoever yall think is gonna be the best chance to get 1 team dead however i know lynching me will secure a anti town win and town loss. not quite sure why dakky keeps throwing my name out there even though its "just an example" hes done it multiple times now

Sorry for keeping you "as an example". I've been thinking a bit about this, and yeah, you're right. I guess they picked you to give you results because that had best chance not to reveal them or miss them completely.

So, I like the Ragian "example" which Belly said. Also agree Streaker could be... but they said they would NK mtam so that makes him kinda town...

My reads are as follow:
dakky, belly, Tim, (mtam?) - town
ragian, streaker, hotshot, mitch - 2 of them scum
LSU, EPI - scum

hotshot leaning town, though he doesn't get what would it mean for town if we hit scum else than EPI and LSU today
mitch silent last 24h and pushing a LSU lynch, could be Epi's partner
ragian leaning mafia with totally not understanding what I'm trying to accomplish (almost same as hotshot)
Streaker - too silent to judge, breaking the game, there is practically nothing to read on him, he made 13 posts in 13 pages. Actually, there is a way to view all his posts in this thread (click here) ... so maybe someone can get a read out of his posts...

Ah, yes I forgot that they had picked him as a sacrificial lamb this night, he's dead quiet though, as for streaker, if this had been a risk game he would've been kicked for missing too many turns, voting him feels like a bit of a waste though as I think we have better options. I like Ragian and I like mitch, mitch been quiet the last couple of pages and I've had a gut feeling about him for a long time, he's certainly not LSU's partner due to his early push on LSU, but he could be Epi's partner. I still like Ragian for a lynch better, now's a great time to defend yourself Ragian if you don't want to be lycnhed.

[Ragian]

Excuse me for not understanding. I need to question everything in order to play this game. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have understood what dakky was saying. That you. Belly, understood it before I did only speaks for your communication skills, it does not speak against my alignment. It's strange how one who participates and questions is worse off than others who do not.

Now, as dakky, said, I'm perfectly aware of the fact that we'll lose if scum get to orchestrate their kills. What strikes me as problematic is that we can't tell who the second of either faction is. Well, we can guess and take a chance and all that, but that doesn't give us scum no matter how stupid you find the other players.

What you propose is to hit the second person of one of the factions. Obviously, I can get with that, but it annoys me that you would only consider whoever is talking (it seems). Also, you seem to put an awful lot of confidence in confirmed anti-town's words. Why is that?

[Epitaph1]

I'm willing to lynch the following people in this order:

madmitch
dakky21
TimWoodbury
Streaker
HotShot53
mtamburini
MrBellyBangBang
LSU Tiger Josh
Ragian
WingCmdr Ginkapo

[madmitch]

like your list Epic, makes it easy ,everyone above LSU town, below scum ,UNVOTE LSU ,so who do we vote for Ragian or WCG ?

[TimWoodbury]

like your list Epic, makes it easy ,everyone above LSU town, below scum ,UNVOTE LSU ,so who do we vote for Ragian or WCG ?

hes experianced he i gonna know you would think like that though i suppose thats wifom

[LSU Tiger Josh]

My wiling order is

Wingcmdr
belly
Epitaph
mitch
Ragian
MTam
Hot shot
Streaker
Dakky
Tim

Eli night 3 well kill dakky

[Ragian]

Sheesh, mitch really wants a townie lynch. C'mon, son. What are your reasons apart from taking the words of confirmed anti-town?

[dakky21]

like your list Epic, makes it easy ,everyone above LSU town, below scum ,UNVOTE LSU ,so who do we vote for Ragian or WCG ?

OK, I am now sure you are not town.

Just like last game where TWR voted non-playing character (NPC), now you're doing it. Either you didn't read the thread and you're terrible (and I mean TERRIBLE) town or you are scum. WCG didn't substitute Streaker yet and you want WCG lynched... And I don't know why EPI & LSU listed WCG either...

vote mitch

[TimWoodbury]

looking at it both LSU and epi has Mtam in the same slot in the middle of the list you guys think it might be worth lynching 1 that neither of them are "commited" to ie neither top nor bottom thus trying to not draw attention to said person?

[dakky21]

looking at it both LSU and epi has Mtam in the same slot in the middle of the list you guys think it might be worth lynching 1 that neither of them are "commited" to ie neither top nor bottom thus trying to not draw attention to said person?

Tim, Why do you ask such a question, they're both placed mtam in the middle... but they're a confirmed mafia? Why would you take list as-is from confirmed mafia? Why do you even talk about their list? I started to believe you are town but now you're making me question my thinking... am I correct that you're town...?

[dakky21]

Sorry Tim, now I get what you tried to say... mtam in middle so they put it there so it's not a lynch or a 100% mafia... but I still don't see why do you reference to their lists, they could have put it in the top, middle or bottom, however they liked it... their lists mean nothing...

Tim Please try to write it more readable... I know it's your trademark to write unreadable but please... if you're town please write readable.... thanks

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I'm good with any lynch but me at this time dakky figured it out. you got a good p over there epitaph. shame n3 we'll kill him

[dakky21]

I don't mind being killed as long as town continue to kill you... anyways it all depends on the lynch today, if we mislynch, you will win anyway